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Otto Toten
Minmatar The Real OC Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.12.09 20:49:00 -
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I agree with many that the Echelon will just collect dust at the back of hangers. Why can't we get a useful gift that we would actually use? Why not a frig you could take into battle? Lose it and be done with it.:) My two Zephyrs also collect dust. meh. -------------- Otto Toten |
Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.12.09 20:55:00 -
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The thing to remember here is that CCP isn't just one group of people -- it's an organization with many areas, including art, bugfixing, server maintenance, etc.
They can't just instantly restructure the organization to redirect efforts to the particular area that happens to be the hot issue of the week. So if they let the art developers work on a neat new frigate so we can get a christmas present, that's really not a bad choice -- those guys aren't going to be able to solve any lag problems anyway, and the model might prove useful in the future for something else.
While I am unlikely to ever fly the ship, I welcome the present as a charming ornament that might decorate my station in Incarna -- or perhaps for something even better, like the Noctis.
Thank you, CCP. It is a charming model, and I'm quite fond of it.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.12.09 20:57:00 -
[123]
CCP once again proving they are the masters of trolling and griefing players. Well played, CCP well played. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.12.09 20:58:00 -
[124]
Oh goody...it will compliment the other usless ship that sits in my hanger. Oh well, its free...yawn.
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Ceti Lomax
Minmatar Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2010.12.09 21:04:00 -
[125]
Dear CCP Santa,
I'ld like a new snowball launcher for Christmas.
My old snowballs melted
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.09 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Muad 'dib
Originally by: Tippia Because then they couldn't really give it out as a gift.
Why would that matter if everyone gets one?
Because "everyone having one" is not a factor in balancing and because, pretty soon, everyone will not have one.
Anything that has any kind of mainstream value, should be produced by players or, if given as a gift, be very very very very rare (so the value in having it is far higher than the value in using it). ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.12.09 22:17:00 -
[127]
It'll have engine trails though, right?
RIGHT?!
Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.09 22:17:00 -
[128]
What was that?
A new storyline of how CONCORD is going to attack, with your help, Sansha bases in Jove territory? Say it isn't so!
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Nomad Vherokic
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Posted - 2010.12.09 22:38:00 -
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Complete and utter feeling of nothing in particular... I used the Zephyr... once... Primae... twice... there's a theme with these free ships CCP = Completely Crap Presents...
The only freebie I have ever flown consistently was the Apotheosis, purely because it looked like half a stolen bicycle wheel, and that just rocks my hairy gorilla loving lobes...
STUFF, got some here, TAKERS? |
Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp. Fallen Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:08:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Nomad Vherokic
STUFF, got some here, TAKERS?
Dibs! Contracted to this Character in any hi-sec station. Thanks in advance !
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Myronik
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Myronik on 09/12/2010 23:21:02 Edited by: Myronik on 09/12/2010 23:20:12 Edited by: Myronik on 09/12/2010 23:17:26 Raw video from SiSi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJvwgAZl7H8 Personally i think this is a cool xmas surprise. It meant to be surprise isnt it? Noone expected sudden Concord frigate. And also this is a mass gift - you can do whatever you want with it, like with any corporate gift at your work for example.
Really what you all whiners want as a gift? Jovian battleship with Doomsday device on it and "I win" button?
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Mobile Alcohol Processing Units Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:19:00 -
[132]
Frankly I would have prefered snow balls...
I think the art of symetry was lost on the wrong side of the EVE gate when it colapsed. ____________________
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Pell Grahnm
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:59:00 -
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Honestly yes I am disappointed, not in the new ship particularly, I could give a rats a** less about the new ornament. The main issue with me is the man hours wasted on just that , an ornament. This happens while the poor Ishkur has had a lazy turret mount on the lower port winglet forever (even before graphics revamp if I remember)not to mention the textureless look of the hurricanes rear engine cluster. Yes I have read the posts here that ship designers/modelers could not have fixed actual bugs, but what about actually fixing the ships that have something glaringly wrong instead of making us a cheap dollar store toy filled with lead and cadmium. |
Lopsy Lu
Funky Bass Line
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Posted - 2010.12.10 00:12:00 -
[134]
Geez, what a whinefest.
And yet I always hear how much more mature the Eve player base is. Funny, that.
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The Git
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Posted - 2010.12.10 00:16:00 -
[135]
I'm gonna' hang it from my rearview mirror in the Domi.
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Glyken Touchon
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2010.12.10 00:43:00 -
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I'm quite happy with it.
Modelling etc: It wouldn't suprise me if there was a stash of various flavour ship models somewhere that can be completed quickly for implementation. balancing: none required. any other new ship/subsystem requires balancing. Granted, maybe some art time could have been spent fixing the texture on another ship, but if they're redoing the whole model from scratch in the (ahem) near future, then why bother?
What I would love is if the blueprints for the gift ships became available a year or so after the initial release. Either BPOs on market, or preferably BPCs through some loyalty stores(Interbus?) or loot drops.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.12.10 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos I really wanted an unholy rage
That's what I wanted too! ______________________________
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Cloakers
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Posted - 2010.12.10 01:09:00 -
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I blame this sadness on short memories.
Since when did CCP give out anything useful in the way of free christmas gifts? Snowball launchers, shuttles, frigate with 1 slot, surely you expected less? --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up. |
NiGHTSintodreams
Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.12.10 01:11:00 -
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I think the Echelon looks pretty cool. I like it for the same reason I like the Zephyr-- the design. Also, part of what makes the Zephyr so cool is it's description and the idea behind its design (the solar sail). The Echelon also has a look unique from any other ship in EVE, and hopefully it too has a cool back story. Guess I'm just repeating myself now, but these free ships give great new ways for RPers to enjoy the game. --- It's a dream paradox...
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Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2010.12.10 01:40:00 -
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I'm just sad that once it gets blown up there is no guarantee that I will ever be able to replace it. For this reason I don't think I will use it, just keep it in the hangar for posterity.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.12.10 02:03:00 -
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Oh crap I really hope this ship is not integral to defeating Sansha because most of them are going to get suicide-ganked.
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podlol
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Posted - 2010.12.10 02:34:00 -
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The point is CCP used the ****ing phrases "new area of development" and "something the player base has requested for a long time" in describing the 2nd gift. Waste of time and a worthless ship isnt "new development" ccp does that all the time. Thanks for lying ccp. Dont use those two phrases to get us anxious then give us a waste of a ship. |
Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.10 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: podlol The point is CCP used the ****ing phrases "new area of development" and "something the player base has requested for a long time" in describing the 2nd gift. Waste of time and a worthless ship isnt "new development" ccp does that all the time. Thanks for lying ccp. Dont use those two phrases to get us anxious then give us a waste of a ship.
[citation needed]
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.10 03:26:00 -
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This ship is a stain on the concord name. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Shuckstar
Gallente Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2010.12.10 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum
Originally by: Nicholas Barker This is like getting socks for xmas. But not only this, socks that are too small.
QFT, another useless ship to go in my hangar and never be used, but nope no one's getting it of me
You are going to fast! Wait five minutes and try again.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Cloakers
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Posted - 2010.12.10 05:18:00 -
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It could be a CCP joke. Maybe there's something else in the works and they're winding us up? --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up. |
Puchu
Rood Inverse
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Posted - 2010.12.10 07:16:00 -
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this should have been a special hacker module, not a ship.
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Alias 6322A
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Posted - 2010.12.10 07:18:00 -
[148]
Apparently folks need some Game Business 101...
#1 You release one-of-a-kind, never to be reproduced ship with a semblance of utility. The utility is to get people to fly it...and lose it...thus increasing the value of the ship and adding to the collection of "Ships that are Cool Because You Don't Have One."
#2 Said ship is so cool that you only make it available a short period of time.
#3 Players renew alternate (or all if on holiday break from EVE) to get rare, never to be reproduced ship. One month will be paid on various accounts that don't actually need to be renewed in order to get ship (or multiples of ship).
#4 CCP makes the most money from a single-month subscription fee for each account renewed simply for a new ship. Those who pay attention will notice you save more money for more months bought in advance.
#5 Players go "Oh goody, cool ship" every now and then, Potential Players go "Wow, they give cool stuff and free expansions! /subscribe", CCP gets extra cash-flow, and the wheel of game business keeps on turning. Rinse, Repeat as needed.
I like getting nifty ships...they sort of act as a history-book in my hangar for cool, and not so cool, moments in my EVE career. Seriously folks, you're getting an expansion (for free, unlike other games?) that is in three parts because it packs so many features (and fixes! Yay Rockets!) such as the brand new character creator (Can we say Incarna around the Corner?). Cease whining. If you want an actual 'usable' ship (like the Noctis, but combat wise) get into the F&I or AH forums and come up with something!!!
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2010.12.10 07:37:00 -
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Just to reiterate a common sentiment - I hope it gets the Primae -> Noctis treatment. I hate to see working models unused save for one-off ships that, by and large, stay in the hangar.
Incursions is said to open up the CONCORD loyalty point store, though, so I'm fairly optimistic that we'll see another Noctis type re-release.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.12.10 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona I blame this sadness on short memories.
Since when did CCP give out anything useful in the way of free christmas gifts? Snowball launchers, shuttles, frigate with 1 slot, surely you expected less?
At least you can have loads of fun with snowballs.
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