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chandraboy
RED PAW Brothers of Apocrypha.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 13:58:00 -
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Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them up |
TheAmazingFlyingPig
New Edens United Nation Gecko Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.11 14:46:00 -
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*Is still mining happily in his Hulk* |
Chris Slayter
Cypher Mortalis Otaared Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.11 15:34:00 -
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chandraboy wrote:Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them up
Why don't you get yourself a Mack then? If cargo is all what you're upset about, then go for it. You won't notice the smaller yield if you use it for solo mining. You easily compensate for that by not needing an additional hauler.
If you use 2 or more accounts why not simply store the crystals in the hauler so he can drop them once needed on your hulk? |
Judas Lonestar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:04:00 -
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I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade. |
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:10:00 -
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And in other breaking news the hulk is no longer the best mining ship for yield, AFK-iness, and tank. It now has to contend with being the best at only one or two things like most other ships in the game. Here's hoping that the hulk can survive its brush with mortality! |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:14:00 -
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chandraboy wrote:Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them up
contract me all your items and isk you ******* jackass. read the ******* patch notes.
hulk/covetor - fleet (kings of yield) mack/retriver - solo (kings of ore bay) skiff/procurer - kings of tank If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:15:00 -
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Chris Slayter wrote: Why don't you get yourself a Mack then? If cargo is all what you're upset about, then go for it. You won't notice the smaller yield if you use it for solo mining. You easily compensate for that by not needing an additional hauler.
Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.
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Theangryhobo
Hobo Industries Inc
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Posted - 2012.08.11 18:52:00 -
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Have you ever considered jetcan mining? It's very useful. Otherwise, Mackinaw. Slightly less yield, ton more cargo. Hobo Industries Inc is recruiting |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.11 19:20:00 -
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Judas Lonestar wrote:I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade.
A bit late dude. Price of the Hulk is going down fast. |
Judas Lonestar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.11 19:21:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Judas Lonestar wrote:I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade. A bit late dude. Price of the Hulk is going down fast.
I still, for now, prefer hulks so it would be nice to get another docked up. They look pretty spinning in bay, and givr you good collateral in the dice games I frequent after a hard days mining. |
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.11 21:28:00 -
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chandraboy wrote:Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them up First rule of CCP: Fix what is not broken! Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat desert first! |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.11 22:22:00 -
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Judas Lonestar wrote:I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade. are we talking numbers? cause i got one lying around...
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Judas Lonestar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.12 00:15:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Judas Lonestar wrote:I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade. are we talking numbers? cause i got one lying around...
Well lets be honest, you dont seem to be complaining so you'd want market value. When I say "happily take it off your hands" to someone who has tearz that should be interpreted as "at a sweetheart deal you probably wouldnt like, but will get you to STFU" |
Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2012.08.12 01:23:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.
with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle
3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle
TL;DR the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II |
ariel jade
Terran Colonial Guard
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Posted - 2012.08.12 01:39:00 -
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chandraboy wrote:Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them up
I just noticed to day the te expanded Cargo was not working on my Hulk anymore. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:46:00 -
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Sigras wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit. with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle 3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle TL;DR the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II Bolded the part you missed.
OP said:
chandraboy wrote:you removed 50percent of my [u]capacity
And I said.
Alara IonStorm wrote:Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit. Never said a Mackinaw mines faster then a yield Hulk. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 08:05:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Sigras wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit. with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle 3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle TL;DR the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II Bolded the part you missed. OP said: chandraboy wrote:you removed 50percent of my [u]capacity
And I said. Alara IonStorm wrote:Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit. Never said a Mackinaw mines faster then a yield Hulk.
considering the hulk's ore bay alone is bigger than it's cargo capacity pre patch and op is complaining about losing cargo space...
op confirmed for fail fitting and not buying a mackinaw because :stupid: Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Roan Pico
I- T I E -I
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:31:00 -
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chandraboy wrote:Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them up
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Motoko Kusanagui
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:08:00 -
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The new Mackinaw mines more than the old Hulk fitted to max cargohold, please read before angry posting.
Miners these changes are for best. |
Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:21:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Sigras wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit. with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle 3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle TL;DR the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II Bolded the part you missed. yep though i was responding to the flawed notion that the Mackinaw has "about the same yield" as the Hulk; 15% is not "about the same"
by that logic why not get a retriever? its got "about the same yield" and "about the same ore bay" or why ever get an implant? its "about the same as not having one" |
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:25:00 -
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Sigras wrote: yep though i was responding to the flawed notion that the Mackinaw has "about the same yield" as the Hulk; 15% is not "about the same"
by that logic why not get a retriever? its got "about the same yield" and "about the same ore bay" or why ever get an implant? its "about the same as not having one"
I never said it did have the same yield as a Hulk. I said it has about the same yield as the old Cargo Hulk the OP is sad about losing.
No one in this thread said a Mackinaw can get more or the same yield as the new Hulk so I am not really sure what flawed notion you are responding too. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.12 18:25:00 -
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chandraboy wrote:Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them up
Mackinaw. More space than a hulk could ever have and more tank. Spend more time actually looking, and less time spent on whining. Hulk is a fleet mining ship, not a solo AFK mining/hauler. |
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:21:00 -
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Wah |
Kyoso Oni
Sigma-Six Symptom Inc.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:59:00 -
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So you train to exhumers, you take the long road ahead, you save your pennies to buy and fit a Hulk.
You have a dead tech II miner ship, you can dust off for a mining op (people talk here like there were ops everyday.. not for all corps..)
Mackinaw is good for high sec solo and unnoticeable yield difference in mining ops for corp.
Changes were for the best, but difference is too little for tech II, and Hulk got benched hard.
Looking 2 Trade my Hulk for a Mackinaw any day. Oh wait there's a 60mil difference, well if there's still someone who wants to trade we can settle the difference.
After all that training and saving, I'm solo mining in a Retriever :(
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Skeln Thargensen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:27:00 -
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Kyoso Oni wrote:So you train to exhumers, you take the long road ahead, you save your pennies to buy and fit a Hulk.
You have a dead tech II miner ship, you can dust off for a mining op (people talk here like there were ops everyday.. not for all corps..)
Mackinaw is good for high sec solo and unnoticeable yield difference in mining ops for corp.
Changes were for the best, but difference is too little for tech II, and Hulk got benched hard.
Looking 2 Trade my Hulk for a Mackinaw any day. Oh wait there's a 60mil difference, well if there's still someone who wants to trade we can settle the difference.
After all that training and saving, I'm solo mining in a Retriever :(
What's sad about that, it's frikkin' awesome!
ISK is meh, most of your training goes to bonuses on yield and ore hold volume on the Retriever, it's a bargain and not the easy gank it used to be.
Basically, if you find yourself complaining about things to do with Exhumers, then get out of them. The risk/reward is just not worth it imo. Yeah well does your corp get free bacon? |
Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
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Posted - 2012.08.12 22:29:00 -
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From an solo miner I choose the procurer (skiff price is madness) , but anyway between the yield, tank, and cargo Im IN MINER HEAVEN the changes are fine I use T-2 fitted and the cargo holds my crystals and 5 drones to fend off NPC'S, I tested a cycle of prox and got a little over 10 thousand per cycle total 40 thousand of prox that was nice, retriever I don't care for because I just want get some stuff for a build and get back to other things before my eyes glaze over, since I have no orca support a hulk is not needed, . |
Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2012.08.13 11:43:00 -
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Look at the arguments we're having, I think this is exactly what CCP wanted. Before if someone asked whats the best mining ship, everyone said "the hulk unless youre ice mining then its the mackinaw" now we have pages and pages of arguing about which is best, that my friends is the beauty of incomparables
For those of you who want to be lazy and dont think the 15% bonus is worth it, go mine in a mackinaw.
For those of you willing to put in the work to make the hulk pay off, enjoy your 15% yield bonus above all the lazy people. |
Skeln Thargensen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.13 12:04:00 -
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Sigras wrote:Look at the arguments we're having, I think this is exactly what CCP wanted. Before if someone asked whats the best mining ship, everyone said "the hulk unless youre ice mining then its the mackinaw" now we have pages and pages of arguing about which is best, that my friends is the beauty of incomparables
For those of you who want to be lazy and dont think the 15% bonus is worth it, go mine in a mackinaw.
For those of you willing to put in the work to make the hulk pay off, enjoy your 15% yield bonus above all the lazy people.
No, what you have is pages and pages of Hulk pilots whining and everyone else getting it.
I am lazy though, doing housework, cooking meals, working out etc.
Stare at the rocks. Yeah well does your corp get free bacon? |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.13 14:44:00 -
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90K EHP decent ore bay skiff is just amazingly good and almost gank proof while reading a book, doing some other stuff. 38/40K EHP Mackinaw has enough yeld/ore bay for a ship you can use while also doing some stuff like cooking, reading a good book, watching your favourite you tube channel, doing some paperwork etc.
Why are you people complaining? brb |
CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
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Posted - 2012.08.13 14:51:00 -
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How are these threads still appearing?
I am thoroughly enjoying my Mackinaw+Orca. Demolished quite a few rocks last night, actually. Best PvR experience ever. |
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