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DEADZER0
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:44:00 -
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qq plwxing is pointless!
2 weeks later
qq plexing is to profitable
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FeralShadow
Black Storm Cartel League of Entities
157
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Posted - 2012.08.18 02:37:00 -
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Plexing was pointless. Now it is not. Plexing is not too profitable. It is too easy to farm without risk. Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I believe in karma. That's why whenever I do something sh**ty to others, they somehow deserved it." |
Alex Carmel
The Nyan Cat Pirates Nyanpire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 03:17:00 -
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Have the plex spawn elite frigs that scram/web near the player. Problem solved. |
saucy jackass
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 14:31:00 -
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Sensor boosted Arazu with faction point and recon lvl 4 minimum. Loki booster with interdiction link. Warp into plex lock and point the friggy from 80km away. That is a huge investment just to kill a t1 frigate though, lol. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.08.18 14:54:00 -
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plexing alts are fine. Those actually participate system control war, unlike most of those who want to use FW as free wardec. |
Alex Carmel
The Nyan Cat Pirates Nyanpire
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:47:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:plexing alts are fine. Those actually participate system control war, unlike most of those who want to use FW as free wardec.
I don't think plexing alts are the problem. I think it's the Risk/Reward of the speed tanking super low-skill vigil (adjust according to faction) that are. You can get into a good one with a few days of training tops and as long as you can see the overview in a corner of your screen, you can always notice and warp out if someone gets in the plex. They've got to burn ~50-100k to point you. You align in 3-4 seconds.
A plex should require some fighting or have the LP reward scaled somehow. I happen to think that a few elite frigs with scram/point/web/target painters can solve this problem. Now mr. plex alt would need to pay more attention and actually fit guns / missiles. Dual webbed vigil is a dead vigil. This would be perfectly in keeping with how most of the other PvE content works. |
Esruc 'Sadim
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:23:00 -
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A warning to the OP, this will **** you off.
I just rolled this character to join FW on the Gallente front. I'm doing it purely to game the system. I don't plan to grind plexes full time, I just want a navy comet and some good faction mods/plugs for my other character. The problem is that I literally know nothing about the FW. Do any of the trolls and flamers of this post (jk) have advice or suggestions for speed farming plexes in mini frigs? Also, nething else I should know b4 jumping into this? |
FeralShadow
Black Storm Cartel League of Entities
157
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Posted - 2012.08.19 01:37:00 -
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You can alt farm plexes all day long. Why else would they have minor plexes there? It simply shouldn't be as safe as it is now. Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I believe in karma. That's why whenever I do something sh**ty to others, they somehow deserved it." |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:37:00 -
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Alex Carmel wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:plexing alts are fine. Those actually participate system control war, unlike most of those who want to use FW as free wardec. I don't think plexing alts are the problem. I think it's the Risk/Reward of the speed tanking super low-skill vigil (adjust according to faction) that are. You can get into a good one with a few days of training tops and as long as you can see the overview in a corner of your screen, you can always notice and warp out if someone gets in the plex. They've got to burn ~50-100k to point you. You align in 3-4 seconds. A plex should require some fighting or have the LP reward scaled somehow. I happen to think that a few elite frigs with scram/point/web/target painters can solve this problem. Now mr. plex alt would need to pay more attention and actually fit guns / missiles. Dual webbed vigil is a dead vigil. This would be perfectly in keeping with how most of the other PvE content works.
Your faction is rewarding you from helping to invading enemy systems, there could be no better reason to give lp, no matter if it easy or not. |
FeralShadow
Black Storm Cartel League of Entities
159
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:37:00 -
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Perhaps it makes some sense from a roleplaying perspective, but from a gameplay perspective it doesn't make much sense at all.
And if you want to take it that far, I could easily argue that since you're not killing any of the NPC's, that as soon as you leave, they just re-capture the base since they are still right there after all. Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I believe in karma. That's why whenever I do something sh**ty to others, they somehow deserved it." |
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.08.19 21:21:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:Perhaps it makes some sense from a roleplaying perspective, but from a gameplay perspective it doesn't make much sense at all.
And if you want to take it that far, I could easily argue that since you're not killing any of the NPC's, that as soon as you leave, they just re-capture the base since they are still right there after all.
Anyway idea is that players fight about systems. so NPC should never be on any important role in FW.
Farming can be easily stopped by player actions, it requires lot of people, but it is still possible if people actually want to do it.
CCP wanted to boost attack plexing, and they sure managed to make it popular. Now they should just give little reward for defenders to make it balanced. |
FeralShadow
Black Storm Cartel League of Entities
160
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:32:00 -
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See, that's the thing though. Farming can be stopped, for about 2 minutes, while the player chases that little warp core stabbed frigate around the system. After the player is gone (because let's face it, he'll never catch it), that frigate goes back and farms plexes again. That's the problem. NPC's should be important to FW, they are part of the enemy "army" after all. Having to kill the NPC's would mean that people would be taking ships into the plexes that are SUPPOSED to capture the plexes, not the little dinky warp core stabbed/no weapons frigates that go around farming everything now.
Then if you get caught, you better hope you have friends on stand by. Or you bring friends with you and a fight ensues. Or you're cleverly PVP fit and all the NPC's are dead so you kill the enemies as they enter. Or any other number of PVP scenarios that would happen.
As it is now, the only PVP that happens with these farming frigates is
Enemy warps in, plex frigate warps out. Really interesting, right?
Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I believe in karma. That's why whenever I do something sh**ty to others, they somehow deserved it." |
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