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Xndr 78
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Posted - 2010.12.16 16:36:00 -
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I mean, who is receiving it? Sleepers? I'm paying about 8% (insane!) of OMA's market price just to export it from the planet. But wait, I'm in a wormhole, an unknown part of space, where no man step before - why should I pay to anyone? I agree to pay for setting up a Customs Office, because it seems reasonble, but pay taxes everytime in a wormhole, where just me and planets - it seems ridiculous to me.
Does anyone think the same?
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Drexit
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Posted - 2010.12.16 16:51:00 -
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/signed
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2010.12.16 16:53:00 -
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Never underestimate the reach of bureaucracy.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.12.16 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Sturmwolke on 16/12/2010 16:59:38 You've missed the biggest point, there shouldn't be any customs ofice in WH in the first place. It's a complete immersion breaker. All launches should be manual. |
Xndr 78
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Posted - 2010.12.16 17:13:00 -
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No, you missed it - I said that I'm ready to pay for setting it up, like I'm "hiring" someone to build it. I'll pay 1 time for building it, thats reasonable, but why should I pay to anyone every time I export stuff if I'm the first and only who is setting PI in this wormhole system?
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Nikolai Kondratiev
Sphere Design Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.16 17:24:00 -
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It's for the same reason you pay taxes in Null Sec. Bureacracy doesn't give a **** and will send its agents all over the universe to get monies from you.
(and from a gameplay point of view, the extraction rates are already a nice enough bonus over empire space and the export taxes are also a replacement for the ISK sink that disappeared with NPC sell orders for fuel/...) _ WTS Capital BPOs |
Greg Huff
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Posted - 2010.12.16 17:56:00 -
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Perhaps the tax is going to pay the labor force that's operating the customs office and ground facilities?
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Point14
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Posted - 2010.12.16 20:04:00 -
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Its nothing compared to the isk i'm getting after I get the goods out so I dont really care about the tax
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Mobius Fierce
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Posted - 2010.12.16 21:35:00 -
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You need to pay your Intergalactic Longshore and Warehouse Union workers.
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.12.16 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sturmwolke Edited by: Sturmwolke on 16/12/2010 16:59:38 You've missed the biggest point, there shouldn't be any customs ofice in WH in the first place. It's a complete immersion breaker. All launches should be manual.
You're forgetting the patented 'Redy-Offic' technology that comes along with every command center sold. It can build an entire customs office, launch it into space, and maintain a permanent connection to colonies for launching goods to and from planet.
Of course, it's also hard-coded to take those huge taxes from you with every transaction. It's a bummer, because it takes so long to make enough ISK to pay for them in a wormhole. You have to.... like... go kill a sleeper frigate, or something.
Also, don't try to hack the system. If you do, it makes a nice "Wah-wah-wah-WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" tune. (Then it blows up with enough force to destroy the solar system).
There ya go, an explanation! Get yourself immersed (and pay taxes!
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*One-click input routing *Copy product, inputs & outputs in factories *Launchpad upgrades: twice the space, twice the cost, half the hassle! [ /sig ] |
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.17 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sturmwolke Edited by: Sturmwolke on 16/12/2010 16:59:38 You've missed the biggest point, there shouldn't be any customs ofice in WH in the first place. It's a complete immersion breaker. All launches should be manual.
There is not one until someone initiates a PI command center on the planet.
Consider the cost of building the customs office to be tacked onto the cost of the command centre.
Also, consider the export/import tax as going towards the maintenance and wages of the command centre, launchpad, extractors, and those who work them.
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Tusen Takk
BlackHole Surfers
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Posted - 2010.12.17 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Xndr 78 I mean, who is receiving it? Sleepers? I'm paying about 8% (insane!) of OMA's market price just to export it from the planet. But wait, I'm in a wormhole, an unknown part of space, where no man step before - why should I pay to anyone? I agree to pay for setting up a Customs Office, because it seems reasonble, but pay taxes everytime in a wormhole, where just me and planets - it seems ridiculous to me.
Does anyone think the same?
be grateful that there are even those stations (since its unexplored) or else youd be rocketing them up :P
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.12.17 09:04:00 -
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CCP missed a great opportunity of introducing a whole new facet of game play and instead went with an abstraction. They could have added in civilians/populations, uses for all those slaves, tourists, exotic dancers, all the luxury NPC trade goods, NPC trade drugs, all the NPC food, etc. Instead, ISK ... wee.
The Real Space Initiative - V7
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.12.17 10:44:00 -
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The ISK goes to CONCORD.
It's not at all ridiculous.
1. Corporations all over the world collect Import/Export duty/sales tax/VAT and other taxes for their respective governing authority.
2. Do you think all those planet side factory workers labour for free! All those planet side facility function with zero running costs!
What is ridiculous is the majority of PI production is still being sold BELOW COST, because too many cretins think the resource they collect themselves are free.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.12.17 14:39:00 -
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Hey i am living in a goo filled pod, piloting a spaceship that can make warp jumps. This is ridiculous.......
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Lirinas
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy CCP missed a great opportunity of introducing a whole new facet of game play and instead went with an abstraction. They could have added in civilians/populations, uses for all those slaves, tourists, exotic dancers, all the luxury NPC trade goods, NPC trade drugs, all the NPC food, etc. Instead, ISK ... wee.
There actually were plans for much of that and more, but due to a variety of issues and poor organization during development, none of this was implemented and we got the disappointment that is PI now.
I would have rather seen PI or even the whole of Tyrannis delayed as opposed to the barely-functional dren we got. That failure is why Incursion is being released in bits-and-pieces. At least CCP learns from it's mistakes... sometmies... but PI will always sour my experience with EVE until we get the PI we were promised.
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suur karu
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Posted - 2010.12.18 20:45:00 -
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Benjamin Franklin once said: In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2010.12.18 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: suur karu Benjamin Franklin once said: In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes
That doesn't hold to be true in Eve though... Thanks to clones death has become just a tale from the old barbaric past.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.12.18 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lirinas
Originally by: Adunh Slavy CCP missed a great opportunity of introducing a whole new facet of game play and instead went with an abstraction. They could have added in civilians/populations, uses for all those slaves, tourists, exotic dancers, all the luxury NPC trade goods, NPC trade drugs, all the NPC food, etc. Instead, ISK ... wee.
There actually were plans for much of that and more, but due to a variety of issues and poor organization during development, none of this was implemented and we got the disappointment that is PI now.
I would have rather seen PI or even the whole of Tyrannis delayed as opposed to the barely-functional dren we got. That failure is why Incursion is being released in bits-and-pieces. At least CCP learns from it's mistakes... sometmies... but PI will always sour my experience with EVE until we get the PI we were promised.
You are either a new player, or you didnt read it properly, CCP promises nothing.-+
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Chiralos
Merchant Princes
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Posted - 2010.12.18 23:57:00 -
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Worse still, how are they going to explain DUST mercenaries getting to and from wormhole systems ? Amarr Victor. |
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.12.19 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chiralos Worse still, how are they going to explain DUST mercenaries getting to and from wormhole systems ?
Probably something similar to this
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Falkus Windowmaker
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.12.19 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Falkus Windowmaker on 19/12/2010 05:07:50
Originally by: Mobius Fierce You need to pay your Intergalactic Longshore and Warehouse Union workers.
Somewhere in a shallow grave Jimmy Hoffa's decrepit and decayed corpse has a smug but content look on whatever is left of its face.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.12.19 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Chiralos Worse still, how are they going to explain DUST mercenaries getting to and from wormhole systems ?
Since there is no sov in wormholes, players or NPCs, why would they care?
The Real Space Initiative - V7
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.12.19 07:21:00 -
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I wonder which population on those planets is working in those installation of yours.. Sleeper? Lol.
Be happy you can make the **** out there in the holes. Could had went completely the other way and CCP would have implemented it as with the Moons.. no PI in W-Space.. now that would had been a Tune I would like to hear!!!
Whiner.
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chiralos Worse still, how are they going to explain DUST mercenaries getting to and from wormhole systems ?
LOL
Oh yeah, that's a tough one.
Erm... I'm guessing just like you got there? You know, aboard a spaceship that jumped through a wormhole?
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Mister Pro
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:39:00 -
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For me those taxes, pay the cost of launch , it makes more sense.
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