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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9064
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Posted - 2012.08.14 00:48:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:All industrial ships will need to be removed All blueprints will need to be removed All star bases will need to run on PI only goods, no wait, ud need blueprints for that, no, remove starbases fuel needs. Change all empire 0.5-0.9 except for RENS/AMARR/DODXIEI/JITA and leave those as 1.0 systems for market hubs
You will need to seed all ships/modules at set prices.
You will need to remove refining as industry is no longer needed. You are very confused about what PvP consists of in EVE. You've just suggested the removal of PvP content. Why would you do that if you want to show some kind of GÇ£pure PvPGÇ¥?
Quote:So CCP, lets try it out, lets do what they want, lets change EVE to pure PVP sov games, no industry, no mining, no missions, no incursions Same here. You've listed things that are PvP to be removed from this GÇ£pure PvPGÇ¥ thing you're envisioning.
Quote:And Then we will see how this will go down with your *real* player base, not the 25% vocal majority GǪand the source for that number isGǪ? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2342
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Posted - 2012.08.14 00:50:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote: Carebares dont force manufacturing on you so why force pvp on those who dont want it?
Forcing PvP on soft targets is what piracy is about. Surely you wouldn't want to remote piracy from the game?
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Pipa Porto
729
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Posted - 2012.08.14 01:08:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People pay to play. If you pay for my account I will gladly play the way you ask. Untill then I will pay my $14.99 per month and play the game how I choose not you. Carebares dont force manufacturing on you so why force pvp on those who dont want it?
To each is own. If I dont like it then I stop paying.
Sure you do. As a PVPer who loses ships, I want manufacturers to give them to me for free. You refuse to do so, thus harming my ability to keep PVPing for free. Thus, by charging ISK for your manufactured goods, you are engaging in non-consensual Market PVP.
By the way, I don't have a problem with that. But unless you're playing on SISI, you're engaged in PVP against someone. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9064
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Posted - 2012.08.14 01:20:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Carebares dont force manufacturing on you so why force pvp on those who dont want it? Yes they do. Carebears aren't able or willing to produce the full range of stuff that goes into a fit shipping so those PvPers have to do it themselvesGǪ
So setting aside for a moment that manufacturing is PvP, since carebears force PvPers to manufacture why should the carebears be exempt from PvP? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
141
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Posted - 2012.08.14 01:21:00 -
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People like the OP think they matter to Eve |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
340
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Posted - 2012.08.14 01:25:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:People like the OP think they matter to Eve
^^Troof.^^
So...what did you lose, OP? And the rest of your stuffs, can I haz?
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Troll thread, lacks content gas thread, ban OP. Mods, please lock. There is a fine and proper artistry to wielding verbal scalpels, such that the crap-poster you've slashed doesn't even know they've been cut. But verbal bludgeons -- Those are just fun. |
Bullz3y3
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.08.14 02:10:00 -
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One thing always left out in these risk vs reward debates is that there is an aspect that is a reward that can't be balanced against the in game rewards. That aspect is the reward of explosions, or causing another player to lose something of value. Things of that naturme.
So how do you balance that in the game (realistically). |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1217
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Posted - 2012.08.14 02:40:00 -
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Bullz3y3 wrote:One thing always left out in these risk vs reward debates is that there is an aspect that is a reward that can't be balanced against the in game rewards. That aspect is the reward of explosions, or causing another player to lose something of value. Things of that nature.
So how do you balance that in the game (realistically). Can't be done.
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
210
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Posted - 2012.08.14 02:44:00 -
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Where the **** are all these pvpers whining at?
Dementia is a sign of serious illness, you should see a doctor. |
LilRemmy
Synaptic Void AAA Citizens
6
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Posted - 2012.08.14 03:03:00 -
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So by your logic, let's remove all PVP and you can mine and build for...no buyers? market is now dead? what a stupid thread, time to stop reading this section of the forum... |
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Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
37
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Posted - 2012.08.14 03:04:00 -
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OP is a Troll, crappy one, but a Troll non the less (cred does go for tolling to page 4 at this time)
But look at it this way:
If there was a complete Null Sec style server , with all ships and mods seeded and no industry, how many would join?
If there was a complete High Sec style server, with only at the most a PVP flagging system in place, how many would join?
Me? neither, I enjoy EVE as it is, heck even lost a ship tonight when I feel asleep, my bad
EVE is the more than the sum of it parts, it's something greater =) The Valdspar is Holy, it must be allowed to float free. Free of lesser rocks that try to clutter it's Holy Path though the Heavens. |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
50
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Posted - 2012.08.14 05:42:00 -
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http://blackprophecy.com/
eve without industry. there you go pvpers. |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.14 06:15:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:http://blackprophecy.com/
eve without industry. there you go pvpers.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity
Eve without PVP. There you go carebears. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9068
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Posted - 2012.08.14 06:31:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:http://blackprophecy.com/
eve without industry. there you go pvpers. GǪand the question remains: why would they want to play a game without industry? Why would they want a game with less PvP?
Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:If there was a complete Null Sec style server , with all ships and mods seeded and no industry, how many would join? Seeing as how a nullsec style server would have plenty of industry, this question doesn't make much sense. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
91
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Posted - 2012.08.14 07:13:00 -
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Just a suggestion OP... to everyone posting actually. Always start your post with an explaination of what just happened to you that triggered your rage and rather than suggesting a mechanical change, ask for advice.
You would be suprised how fast the community would rally and give you advice if you just told them what ****** thing happened to you. People on this forum I find are extremly helpful and full of useful information IF and ONLY IF, rather than complain about the mechanics you post what happen and ask for advice.
Just a suggestion. I get the rage, I have been there many times.... swallow it .. and ask for advice.. thats my advice. This community might suprise you and you might just walk away from the experiance learning something useful that can help you in the future to avoid whatever it was that triggered your rage. |
Pipa Porto
733
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Posted - 2012.08.14 07:34:00 -
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Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:If there was a complete High Sec style server, with only at the most a PVP flagging system in place, how many would join
There actually is a server like that, that disallows all PVP everywhere unless agreed to by both parties or in a small number of FFA systems. Here are its PCU stats. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Taranius De Consolville
Lost Dawn Chaos Corrosive.
203
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:50:00 -
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Ooer thread is still going? lol at most of the responces
You see this is what EvE
A small vocal majority on the forums leading the game while the rest of us suffer because your to stupid to know when to stop.
I propose an idea and then what
4 pages of being trolled and called a fail? a prick? a child in his mothers basement? Lets war dec him for good against his account?
Because of what? Because i took all of the pvp whine threads and said to ccp, lets get rid of the carebears, the ones they hate so much for no reason other than they dont play the game how u like to play
why?
Because you force your style of game play and the reason u do it is this is the ONLY MMO where it can be done, its why u slate wow/gw2 because if you tried this crap in that game, ud be banned so fast u wouldnt know what happend.
If you dont want a pvp game full on, stop interfering with those who have no interest in pvp
Its pathetic, throw your toys out the pram
/troll on |
Taranius De Consolville
Lost Dawn Chaos Corrosive.
203
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:51:00 -
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LilRemmy wrote:So by your logic, let's remove all PVP and you can mine and build for...no buyers? market is now dead? what a stupid thread, time to stop reading this section of the forum...
This has to be the most ******** response to the original topic i have seen so far?
wow, just wow
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9070
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:52:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:A small vocal majority on the forums leading the game while the rest of us suffer because your to stupid to know when to stop. GǪand you have something statistics-like to back that up, presumably?
Quote:If you dont want a pvp game full on We do. That's why we play EVE. If people have no interest in PvP, maybe it was a bit suboptimal to choose to play a PvP-centric game.
Quote:stop interfering with those who have no interest in pvp Sure. As soon as they stop interfering with everyone else. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Taranius De Consolville
Lost Dawn Chaos Corrosive.
203
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:52:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:People like the OP think they matter to Eve
not in the slightest but again a personal attack because your to stupid to be constructive |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9070
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:55:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Sod off mate So you have nothing to back your assertions up.
Well, good. Then we can safely conclude that they're nonsense.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Taranius De Consolville
Lost Dawn Chaos Corrosive.
203
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:Sod off mate So you have nothing to back your assertions up. Well, good. Then we can safely conclude that they're nonsense.
You can sit there and pretend to be *educated* and use *big words*. However, that being said, simply looking over your forum history, you troll any thread you can post in, simply because you can, yet your borderline troll, which means you never personally attack or are abusive, and by that reasoning cannot be banned from the forums.
This is an issue in how CCP negates the responsibility of reprehensible behaviour in damaged individuals who spend all there time being pedantic and abusive, hurtful etc.
And this ofc is were you come in to the fore is it not?
Bottom line is, all pvpers whine they want carebears in null and low, why, because its easy kills, there is no other reason, there is no other point, it is simply that
Now you go ahead and multi quote and pick that apart :) No doubt u shall find a flaw all my sentences. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9070
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:07:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:You can sit there and pretend to be *educated* and use *big words*. I don't have to pretend, and no big words are used.
The simple fact remains: you are apparently unable to back up your assertions. The burden of proof is on you. Until you provide such evidence as to back up those assertions and make them believable, we can safely conclude that they are nonsense.
Quote:Bottom line is, all pvpers whine they want carebears in null and low, why, because its easy kills, there is no other reason GǪand you have something to back that claim up, presumably?
Anyway, first of all, the most common reason you'll hear is balance. So already there, you're wrong. Second of all, what they want is fewer carebears, in null, low, and highsec, and more people who don't suffer the illusions about the game that characterise the general carebear. What they want is more people to shoot. The nature of those people is completely inconsequential. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1048
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:09:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote: No doubt u shall find a flaw all my sentences.
One does not have to be a Tippia to find a flaw in your nonsense.
This is by far the stupidest thread of 2012.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
645
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:10:00 -
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Andski wrote:so if I decide to undercut whatever you're building at greater quantity, at a price lower than what you can afford to sell, and dump it on the market, what is that?
Probably an alt from big alliance manipulating the market against another alt from another big alliance, witch in the end doesn't count
brb |
Pipa Porto
743
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:14:00 -
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Roime wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: No doubt u shall find a flaw all my sentences. One does not have to be a Tippia to find a flaw in your nonsense. This is by far the stupidest thread of 2012.
Nah. There are plenty of worse threads than this. Not all of them are by TDC. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
83
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:18:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:
*educated* ... *big words*
Look at this guy, he doesn't even know how to "air quote".
Also, I think he's confusing Carebear with Industrialist. Common mistake.
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Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1048
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:18:00 -
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Links or those threads didn't happen!
I mean just re-read the OP :S Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Taranius De Consolville
Lost Dawn Chaos Corrosive.
203
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:19:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:You can sit there and pretend to be *educated* and use *big words*. I don't have to pretend, and no big words are used. The simple fact remains: you are apparently unable to back up your assertions. The burden of proof is on you. Until you provide such evidence as to back up those assertions and make them believable, we can safely conclude that they are nonsense. Quote:Bottom line is, all pvpers whine they want carebears in null and low, why, because its easy kills, there is no other reason GǪand you have something to back that claim up, presumably? Anyway, first of all, the most common reason you'll hear is balance. So already there, you're wrong. Second of all, what they want is fewer carebears, in null, low, and highsec, and more people who don't suffer the illusions about the game that characterise the general carebear. What they want is more people to shoot. The nature of those people is completely inconsequential.
Your speak in circles and your sentences have no meaning what so ever
It's clever and half the dimwits on here think your very smart and clever
If your going to make a point, trying to speak coherently when typing sentences, not using a bunch non/null semantic sentences trying to make the rest of your post look coparsetic. (cant spell this word, never could)
Okay? Tah v much, all of your posts are nonsense. Round and round sentences designed to confuse the person you are trolling. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9070
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Posted - 2012.08.14 11:21:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Your speak in circles and your sentences have no meaning what so ever Sure they do. It's just not a meaning you like. The meaning is: you have nothing to back up your claims. The point doesn't become any clearer or more coherent than that. Your evasions doesn't change that or the fundamental point.
There are no circles. There's just this very simple point. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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