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Ger Tomard
Caldari Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
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Posted - 2011.02.20 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 27/12/2010 18:04:59 Was there a point to this verbal diarrhoea?
EDIT: Oh I see, It's a stealth anti-American troll
Bad troll is bad, if this had any intellectual content it would be in ships and modules instead its wasted forum flotsom. [QUOTE]I think the next time you make one of these bad threads on this character, or any alt, you will be having a nice vacation to help work on making better threads. [/QUOTE] CCP finally acknowled |
Swynet
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Posted - 2011.02.20 19:08:00 -
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Well, solo battleship doesn't means solopwnmobile for sure but bc's hac's are for sure that one too.
Imbalanced the game? -nah, everyone knows it's ok, hybrids are fine blasters are OP, minie stuff are just perfect and amarr stuff one step behind, and for missiles well those ones are fun even if they're far from being pownmobiles, buff angel ships nerf serpentis
Blobs are fine, you play an mmorpg so blobs are big fleets, wy should you play alone?
Wy are you raging about? -has you see everything is fine. ________________________________________________
Originally by: Goose99 In EVE, PVE can happen anywhere, anytime. Whenever you undock, you subject yourself to involuntary PVE.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic
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Posted - 2011.02.20 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 20/02/2011 22:21:16 lol @ people who think BS suck cause they can't figure out how to fit a second web.
BS are awesome, more awesome than when I started playing (RMR patchday). Tracking enhancer buff was the best thing ever.
You're fitting it wrong
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Awesome Possum
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
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Posted - 2011.02.20 22:30:00 -
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nerf USA ♥
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.20 23:40:00 -
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Battleships arent meant to be solo pwnmobiles, BCs are lol
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TurboNutter
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Posted - 2011.02.28 23:15:00 -
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My Anti Blob Solution
New T3 ship - T3 Tactical Stealth Cruiser
Cruiser Size
Warp Cloaked/Fire Cloaked Only mountable weapon being a new Cloaked Nuclear Cruise Missile, give this a long range upto 200km but a slow ish speed and make it so once it comes within a certain distance it alerts all ships " Danger Incoming Tactical Cruise", as it will be the slowest missile in the game this will give them some time to GTFO, or try to :), this has AOE damage of course and should insta pop BC and below and leave remaining ships with systems failures from the EMP blast or some such, this can then say leave the ships imobile and with no shields for 30 seconds or so. I can see this being pretty fkin cool. Also these missiles have some system onboard making them untargetable by any anti missile technology and untargetable in general.
Obviously these missiles would have to be expensive say 100mill each , if not more, maybe even a T2 version where it is a cluster warhead where 4 of them will detonate equally spaced around the target.
Please comment on my crazy madness, i know i like it
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.02.28 23:53:00 -
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The main problem in using BS for small roaming gangs is lack of speed and agility
That is much more important that ability of BS to hit smaller targets. Before The Great Nano Nerf that could be resolved by using expensive faction gear on PvP battleship.
Now dumping money into PvP BS is kind of stupid since you can easily get hotdropped or blobbed - cause you are so easy to catch and hold. It's not cost effective.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.01 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron The main problem in using BS for small roaming gangs is lack of speed and agility
That is much more important that ability of BS to hit smaller targets. Before The Great Nano Nerf that could be resolved by using expensive faction gear on PvP battleship.
Now dumping money into PvP BS is kind of stupid since you can easily get hotdropped or blobbed - cause you are so easy to catch and hold. It's not cost effective.
A battleship can easily have the agility and speed to keep up with a small battle cruiser gang.
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mishkof
Caldari Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2011.03.01 00:48:00 -
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It appears CCP could ban every US IP address and there would still be plenty of douche to go around.
Also, drakes are the new battleship.
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.01 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ephemeron on 01/03/2011 01:16:56
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Ephemeron The main problem in using BS for small roaming gangs is lack of speed and agility
That is much more important that ability of BS to hit smaller targets. Before The Great Nano Nerf that could be resolved by using expensive faction gear on PvP battleship.
Now dumping money into PvP BS is kind of stupid since you can easily get hotdropped or blobbed - cause you are so easy to catch and hold. It's not cost effective.
A battleship can easily have the agility and speed to keep up with a small battle cruiser gang.
Keep up, yes. But when actual fighting starts. Who do you think will be tackled and held first of all? some HAC or a battleship?
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Verlaine Glariant
Amphysvena E C L I P S E
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Posted - 2011.03.01 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron Who do you think will be tackled and held first of all? some HAC or a battleship?
That depends on the ISK value of the target ship. But yes I'd go for the HAC because it's non insurable and usually more expensive than a BS.
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.01 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Verlaine Glariant
Originally by: Ephemeron Who do you think will be tackled and held first of all? some HAC or a battleship?
That depends on the ISK value of the target ship. But yes I'd go for the HAC because it's non insurable and usually more expensive than a BS.
Sure if people sit still you go for most valuable target. But in actual combat you'd go for whatever you can catch. And battleship will be the easiest to catch and hold - resulting in death.
I flew 100s of battleships, so I tend to speak from experience
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.01 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Verlaine Glariant
Originally by: Ephemeron Who do you think will be tackled and held first of all? some HAC or a battleship?
That depends on the ISK value of the target ship. But yes I'd go for the HAC because it's non insurable and usually more expensive than a BS.
Sure if people sit still you go for most valuable target. But in actual combat you'd go for whatever you can catch. And battleship will be the easiest to catch and hold - resulting in death.
I flew 100s of battleships, so I tend to speak from experience
My phoon was faster than most BC and it aligned faster so my BS was one of the hardest to catch in the gang dispite being the biggest target. My hyperion and mega are not as fast but they easily out run the average drake.
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Michwich
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Posted - 2011.03.01 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kattshiro ... there aren't a whole lot of benefits to being solo.
Strictly speaking why should there be?
You know, think creator for a minute, you are creator. You need balance. Positive - Negative, Good - Evil, Black - White, Love - Hate, Man - Woman, Group - Solo. Its just natural, any attemps by developers to impose their morals or their subjective views on how nature works just fails time and time again. Why keep failing?
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Airu Naari
The Noxious
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Posted - 2011.03.01 13:03:00 -
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I do agree solo play could use a boost, but that's just me and because I like alot of solo action in EVE Online. Ah, I can dream, right?
As for battleships being solo pwnmobiles.. no ship should be a solo pwnmobile. Not even a titan, until RMT and botters in general are taken care of and supercaps are generally balanced.
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.01 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 01/03/2011 14:15:02
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau lol @ people who think BS suck cause they can't figure out how to fit a second web.
BS are awesome, more awesome than when I started playing (RMR patchday). Tracking enhancer buff was the best thing ever.
You're fitting it wrong
:facepalm:
Originally by: Ephemeron The main problem in using BS for small roaming gangs is lack of speed and agility.
That is much more important that ability of BS to hit smaller targets. Before The Great Nano Nerf that could be resolved by using expensive faction gear on PvP battleship.
Depends a lot on the BS type. While it works for the pest, it doesn't work for a mega. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Grog Barrel
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Posted - 2011.03.01 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron The main problem in using BS for small roaming gangs is lack of speed and agility.
That is much more important that ability of BS to hit smaller targets. Before The Great Nano Nerf that could be resolved by using expensive faction gear on PvP battleship.
Depends a lot on the BS type. While it works for the pest, it doesn't work for a mega.
he must be thinking of the machariel
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.01 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego
Depends a lot on the BS type. While it works for the pest, it doesn't work for a mega.
Mega can get quite nippy and agile but it wont be going solo.
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.01 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 01/03/2011 18:49:37
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: The Djego
Depends a lot on the BS type. While it works for the pest, it doesn't work for a mega.
Mega can get quite nippy and agile but it wont be going solo.
It is more about the ability to hit stuff at close range, what is extreme important for any solo/small gang bs that needs to fight at close quarters without totally relaying on massive tackling support. I for myself wouldn't even label the mega as a nimble and agile ship back in 2006(where it was nearly twice as fast as it is now). ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.01 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego
It is more about the ability to hit stuff at close range, what is extreme important for any solo/small gang bs that needs to fight at close quarters without totally relaying on massive tackling support. I for myself wouldn't even label the mega as a nimble and agile ship back in 2006(where it was nearly twice as fast as it is now).
Better than most drakes I encouter
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.01 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 01/03/2011 19:38:50
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: The Djego
It is more about the ability to hit stuff at close range, what is extreme important for any solo/small gang bs that needs to fight at close quarters without totally relaying on massive tackling support. I for myself wouldn't even label the mega as a nimble and agile ship back in 2006(where it was nearly twice as fast as it is now).
Better than most drakes I encouter
A drake is 200 m/s faster and aligned 50% quicker than a fitted mega. Leave alone the nano drake gangs where you even get a headache in a nano pest. A nano drake goes 50% as faster and aligns twice as fast than a mega... ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.01 19:38:00 -
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I rarely see battleships in roaming gangs of 0.0, tho battleship is still often used in low sec and empire wars.
Anyone care to speculate why there's such a difference between empire and 0.0?
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Isus Jarode
Gallente Sons of Ivaldi
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Posted - 2011.03.01 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon Before we continue can someone please explain to me why you would subscribe to a 'Massively Multiplayer' game, then complain on said game's forums there is a lack of solo-play?
The guy probably just made a new character on his original account. That way his real identity remains anonymous.
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.01 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron Anyone care to speculate why there's such a difference between empire and 0.0?
You also see them rarely in Low Sec in this kind of gangs. Call me old school but I still like solo BS pvp. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.01 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Isus Jarode
Originally by: hired goon Before we continue can someone please explain to me why you would subscribe to a 'Massively Multiplayer' game, then complain on said game's forums there is a lack of solo-play?
The guy probably just made a new character on his original account. That way his real identity remains anonymous.
Actually, in EVE, solo PvP means "one versus everyone"
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.01 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego
A drake is 200 m/s faster and aligned 50% quicker than a fitted mega. Leave alone the nano drake gangs where you even get a headache in a nano pest. A nano drake goes 50% as faster and aligns twice as fast than a mega...
Then you are doing it wrong.
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.01 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: The Djego
A drake is 200 m/s faster and aligned 50% quicker than a fitted mega. Leave alone the nano drake gangs where you even get a headache in a nano pest. A nano drake goes 50% as faster and aligns twice as fast than a mega...
Then you are doing it wrong.
I doubt this. But yeah, feel free post your fit and explain your solo BS wisdom to me. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.01 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego
I doubt this. But yeah, feel free post your fit and explain your solo BS wisdom to me.
2x nano and MWD.
Everything else is up to you. Mega easily keeps up with or beats the average blob drake setup most people fly these days.
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.01 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ephemeron on 01/03/2011 21:54:17
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: The Djego
I doubt this. But yeah, feel free post your fit and explain your solo BS wisdom to me.
2x nano and MWD.
Everything else is up to you. Mega easily keeps up with or beats the average blob drake setup most people fly these days.
battleship MWD is really bad for true nano tactics. The cap usage is absolutely horrible.
Making 100mn MWD sustainable would allow battleships to compete with other ship classes in speed tactics.
EDIT: a shield tanked Drake would have much stronger tank than shield tanked Mega. That's another advantage of BC's. A proper blaster mega would have at least 1 1600mm plate, with reduces speed and acceleration
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.01 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: The Djego
I doubt this. But yeah, feel free post your fit and explain your solo BS wisdom to me.
2x nano and MWD.
Everything else is up to you. Mega easily keeps up with or beats the average blob drake setup most people fly these days.
So the trick is still being slower than a pest with one nano, having the less effective dps, less buffer, less flexibility(one less high slot)?
I really have issues seeing your point. A nano drake is still nearly 100m/s quicker and aligned 5s faster. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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