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Sharpie15
Gallente NanoTech Research
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Posted - 2010.12.28 09:28:00 -
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I am going to upgrade my desktop next month's and was wondering what video cards and what set up will get me good FPS while running 3 20-inch screens
Here is what I got planed so-far
MotherBoard: Asus M4A78T-E Motherboard CPU: AMD Phenom II 1090T OS: XP(could be changed if it would help) Ram: 4Gb DDR3
Any Ideas?
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.28 16:48:00 -
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How it is related to Tech Lab? About any modern configuration would suffice. -- Thanks CCP for cu |

Vantlor
Gallente Scrap Iron Flotilla
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Posted - 2011.01.03 08:59:00 -
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Double or quadroople your memory (it really isnt that expensive) and disable your swap file (huge benefit for almost anything). Make sure you get a SSD (not entirley necessary but helps alot). Video card wise just get a card that has 3 or more outputs, atleast 1GB of memory and your basicaly set. I would recomend a GTX 570 or 580 if you can afford it. I run 2 24" screens on a GTX 460 with 2 clients set to high in fixed windowed mode at 1920x1200 and pull 70-80 fps average for both constantly. WTB 3rd monitor :)
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Lork Niffle
Gallente External Hard Drive
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Posted - 2011.01.03 11:36:00 -
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Your system is fine as it is non-gpu wise.
A Radeon card is much simpler for triple screen setups since you only need to buy 1 card, which Nvidia require you to buy 2. A 6950 or 6970 is good since they have 2GB of video RAM on them which helps a the higher resolutions and are very cheap for the performance.
I would also advise going up to Win7 64bit, since you might as well anyway and it seems to be better for multi-screen setups anyway. ------------------------------------- The system issues man. |

Deusquasso
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.03 13:31:00 -
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You guys sure that a single graphics card can support 3x monitors? Thought that even if the card has three ports (DVI/VGA/HDMI) only two of those at a time can be used.
Also definitely go with Windows 7 64bit so you can take advantage of the extra memory (6-8gb of DD3).
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TorTorden
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.03 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: TorTorden on 03/01/2011 14:16:36
Originally by: Deusquasso You guys sure that a single graphics card can support 3x monitors? Thought that even if the card has three ports (DVI/VGA/HDMI) only two of those at a time can be used.
Also definitely go with Windows 7 64bit so you can take advantage of the extra memory (6-8gb of DD3).
ditto on the os update, and extra ram. last I chekced the ATI\AMD eyefinity system only worked from a single card, but at least one of the monitors would need a display port connector, if an adapter is needed it will also need to be an active one, (costs 10x more than non active adapters)
Think there are so-called eyefinity kits around with 3 monitors,card and whatever adapters needed to make it work.
I also might not be a 100% on this but 32bit os's has a 32bit pool of mem adresses total, and xp starts listing ram bottom up, and hardware mem adresses top down, so if you have 4 gig of onboard ram and a gpu with 1 gig, you will only get to use the first 3 gig of on board ram. Quick way to check, open task manager->performance and check how large the number for total physical memory is. ------------------------------------------------ There is no such thing as good or evil. Just an egotistic struggle for self empowerment. ------------------------------------------------ |

Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2011.01.03 14:26:00 -
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No matter the OS (XP or Win7) to get the max out of the 4GB RAM you need to be on 64bit OS (as 32bit OS sees max ~3,5GB).
I use Win7 (love it btw, never thought I would leave XP) and it needs min 2GB to run sufficient, so if I where in your shoes, for 3 running EVE clients I would go for 6GB RAM at least.
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Sennett Forell
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Posted - 2011.01.03 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vantlor Double or quadroople your memory (it really isnt that expensive) and disable your swap file (huge benefit for almost anything). Make sure you get a SSD (not entirley necessary but helps alot). Video card wise just get a card that has 3 or more outputs, atleast 1GB of memory and your basicaly set. I would recomend a GTX 570 or 580 if you can afford it. I run 2 24" screens on a GTX 460 with 2 clients set to high in fixed windowed mode at 1920x1200 and pull 70-80 fps average for both constantly. WTB 3rd monitor :)
How do you run 2 clients out of the same PC???
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TorTorden
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.03 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sennett Forell
Originally by: Vantlor Double or quadroople your memory (it really isnt that expensive) and disable your swap file (huge benefit for almost anything). Make sure you get a SSD (not entirley necessary but helps alot). Video card wise just get a card that has 3 or more outputs, atleast 1GB of memory and your basicaly set. I would recomend a GTX 570 or 580 if you can afford it. I run 2 24" screens on a GTX 460 with 2 clients set to high in fixed windowed mode at 1920x1200 and pull 70-80 fps average for both constantly. WTB 3rd monitor :)
How do you run 2 clients out of the same PC???
I personaly just start the client twice and log in. ------------------------------------------------ There is no such thing as good or evil. Just an egotistic struggle for self empowerment. ------------------------------------------------ |

DarkXeRoX
The Ankou Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.01.03 20:01:00 -
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lol sennet
u need an account for each client more or less u cant run multiple chars per account
just start more clients n login as simple as that
eyefinity runs from a single card however u need a screen with a displayport or get a active dvi to displayport adaptor.
eyefinity @ dark
or just run 3 chars one each screen :)
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Vantlor
Gallente Scrap Iron Flotilla
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Posted - 2011.01.04 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: TorTorden
Originally by: Sennett Forell
Originally by: Vantlor Double or quadroople your memory (it really isnt that expensive) and disable your swap file (huge benefit for almost anything). Make sure you get a SSD (not entirley necessary but helps alot). Video card wise just get a card that has 3 or more outputs, atleast 1GB of memory and your basicaly set. I would recomend a GTX 570 or 580 if you can afford it. I run 2 24" screens on a GTX 460 with 2 clients set to high in fixed windowed mode at 1920x1200 and pull 70-80 fps average for both constantly. WTB 3rd monitor :)
How do you run 2 clients out of the same PC???
I personaly just start the client twice and log in.
Exactly and then I move 1 char to the second monitor with evemon!
Could do 3 on one system but I dont have a third monitor (yet). I use 2 Dell U2410 for their awesomeness and they arent cheap!
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Sennett Forell
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Posted - 2011.01.04 05:42:00 -
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Thanks guys, never realised you could do that!
The joke's on me then...:-)
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Lynx Ion
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Posted - 2011.01.04 07:32:00 -
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Any 2 pretty recent cards will do this for you, or 1 eyefinity card with an active display port.
5870s and 480/470s will be damn cheap because of the new line of gpus that just came out (6xxx and 5xx series). I've owned both and they were both fantastic cards. 4xx series from nvidia gets a bit hot, but if you've got a reletively cool house and airflow in the case it shouldn't be a problem.
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Wibla
Minmatar Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.01.05 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Wibla on 05/01/2011 12:39:38 Get one of the new 6000-series radeon cards.
To be able to run the eve client over 3 screens, you need all the monitors driven by one card, or use two nvidia cards in SLI, which significantly limits your motherboard options. This is due to how the (3D) framebuffer is handled over several monitors. When you have the same framebuffer spanning several monitors on 2 graphics cards, you will experience terrible performance, making EVE unplayable (I have tried). Thus the most cost-effective solution is a 6000-series radeon card :) |

Sharpie15
Gallente NanoTech Research
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Posted - 2011.01.09 16:21:00 -
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so what everyone is saying is I need
MotherBoard: Asus M4A78T-E Motherboard CPU: AMD Phenom II 1090T OS: Win7 x64 Ram: 6Gb DDR3 Video: EVGA GeForce 9500 GT 1GB DDR2 PCIe w/Dual DVI Screen: 3x the same wide screen monitors
Does that sound right?
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Wibla
Minmatar Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.01.16 13:07:00 -
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wrong graphics card, you need an ati card to make it work properly!
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Shionoya Risa
The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services
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Posted - 2011.01.16 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wibla This is due to how the (3D) framebuffer is handled over several monitors. When you have the same framebuffer spanning several monitors on 2 graphics cards, you will experience terrible performance, making EVE unplayable (I have tried). Thus the most cost-effective solution is a 6000-series radeon card :)
I experienced the same frame buffer issue as you, this seemed to be tied to the refresh rates. 1 client = 60 fps, 2 = 30 fps and 3 = 20fps per client.
However, swapping the 'Interval' setting within the client from 'one' to Immediate' I had a substantial fps boost.
Cards used were a 5870 (Wouldn't touch again, long story) and a GTX 260. 
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Philip Stark
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Posted - 2011.01.16 15:23:00 -
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I personally run 2 1920X1080 monitors on 1 5770 1gb, and I get at least 60fps on both monitors running at the same time. You will need a 2nd or 3rd account to run more than one char at the same time. You can run multi instants of eve on the same monitor, I used to do it. Set your client to run as a Fixed window at a smaller size than your monitor to where you can see the taskbar and jump between char that way.
But if you want to run 3 monitors at once, you need a AMD (They droped the ATI name) I wouldnt go lower than a HD 5770 you can get an HD 6850 1gb for 180 on newegg, and you will also need this: Active Display Port Adapter They are no longer 100 bucks because AMD started selling them for 30. Just be sure that if you get a new AMD card and you want 3 monitors (and yes they all need to be the same res not 3 different res or you will overtax the gpu) that when you get your display port adapter, make sure if the gfx card has mini display ports you get a mini display port adapter, some cards have regular display port and some have mini display port ....
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Sharpie15
Gallente NanoTech Research
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Posted - 2011.01.20 01:14:00 -
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ok so from what I am seeing just get one 5770 amd HD 1gb card and an ADP adapter
I dont want to run multiple clients i just want one big one across 3 screens
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Fluxsource
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Posted - 2011.01.26 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Wibla wrong graphics card, you need an ati card to make it work properly!
Unfortunately this statement isn't helpful at all.
An nVidia card will work too. However, as regular gaming graphics cards are usually only dual headed (not the three you need) you'll need two graphics cards.
On nVidia this suffers a significant performance hit due to the way directx assigns frame-buffers to a monitor. This performance hit doesn't occur if you have two clients, each on their own exclusive monitor. And the performance hit can be "powered through" if you have a sufficiantly powerful card (eg I know that a GTX 295 performs admirably here). I haven't used ATi cards in a while myself, so I can't comment on that front.
If you want two nVidia cards, you'll need an SLi board. If you want two ATi cards, you'll need a crossfire board. There are excellent examples of both, so this won't restrict you too much.
Another thing to be aware of is making full use of the three displays. I've currently got a 3 display setup, although running off two computers (don't ask, it's complicated). It really helps to ensure that you put anything that requires frequent monitoring withing the central part of your vision, or it will quickly get forgotten and ignored!
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E'lisha
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Posted - 2011.01.27 12:41:00 -
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Edited by: E''lisha on 27/01/2011 12:41:54 I'm using eve with 3 monitors on 5760x1200 since yesturday I've a ATI 5850 in combination with eyefinity an it's amazing. 2x DVI and one DP (Displayport is mandatory for eyefinity) If you don't have a DP on your monitor u can use a active DP adapter -passive adapter don't work. I've tried this without success. Win7 64 6 GB RAM (I'll post more details later)
Here some screens. Linkage Linkage Linkage
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Sharpie15
Gallente NanoTech Research
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Posted - 2011.01.27 23:04:00 -
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E'lisha you have exactly what I am trying to do, how does it look? whats the framerate? and do I need to do any special programs or anything?
thanks for the help
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Temo Jick
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.28 07:31:00 -
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As it happens IÆm building a new gaming system for a 3 monitor 3D set up at the moment. Well I mean IÆve designed one and I am waiting for some of the parts to arrive still. But at any rate this means I have recently been doing an awful lot of research into current hardware.
So hear is my recommendation assuming youÆre interested in playing more games then just eve.
Personally I wouldnÆt recommend a single ATI/AMD card. Yes you can run a three monitor setup with just the one card, but remember every monitor you add multiplies the number of pixels that graphics card has to render. If youÆre running at a resolution of 1680 by 1050 now, your GPU is rendering 1,764,000 pixels with two more monitors youÆre looking at 5040 by 1050, thatÆs 5,292,000 pixels!
ThatÆs one heck of a lot of work for a single card to do. Add some full screen rendering options like anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering to that and your frame rate is going to take one heck of a hit, even with a top quality GPU.
Most of the benchmarks I have been able to find show its much more cost effective to run two mid-range nVidia cards then either one top range ATI/AMD card, or two mid-range ATI/AMD cards. Two top-range nVidia cards also beat two top-range ATI/AMD.
There are some grate sources of information on the web, even some nice video reviews, if you like nerdy tech speak you should do some googling.
ATI/AMD did implement their three monitor solution before nVidia but nVidia surround dose seem to beat Eyefinity at the moment. It is also capable of rendering a 3D image in surround (shutter glasses and 120mhz monitors required).
If your on a really tight budget just get a new ATI/AMD as you have a crossfire MoBo. DonÆt expect the best performance in the world but it will likely be good enough for eve, as space doesnÆt take much rendering power. Be warned though that nether Eyefinity nor nVidia surround are officially supported under windows XP.
If you have a bit more cash on hand some enthusiasm for PC gaming and a desire to try out those three monitors on a range of the latest games I would recommend a new MoBo, two shiny nVidia cards and probably a new PSU as you havenÆt told us what you have, which usually means you donÆt know, which usually means nothing as reliable as you would want to run SLI.
Of course you would also need a copy of windows 7, as nVidia surround wont work under XPà and windows 7 is a resource hog so you will want more ramà Essentially a new computer..
Good luck to you.
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E'lisha
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Posted - 2011.01.28 15:16:00 -
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I can only say it for ATIs Radeaon HD 5800 series as I'm not familar with the actual Geforce models You can run 3 displays on one grafic card using ATIs Eyefinity compatible cards. This may help.
You need two monitors with DVI and one with Display port (required to use Eyefinity)
- Connect all display with the ATI/AMD card. Boot the PC
Open the CCC (Catalyst Control Center) Group all 3 monitors to one single group (like this or here) Open EVE - press ESC - change the settings to 5760x1200 (or the resolution you like) Have fun :-)
I recommend to use the latest Catalyst Control Center and HydraVision HydraVison allows you to tailor your desktop to the way you work.
In normal mode I have approx 60 FPS (not tested with huge fights yet, but in LVL4 Missions 55-60 FPS and no difference to a single monitor)
My system:
2x Samsung SyncMaster 2443BW --> DVI 1x Samsung SyncMaster 2443DW --> DisplayPort
Microsoft Windows 7 Pro x64 Intel Core 2 E6750 MSI MS7350 6 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5850 1 GB RAM @5760x1200
As you can see it's not the newest PC, but it works (nearby) perfect. Sometimes I have some trouble with the boot - maybe its the display port cable. I'll try it tomorrow with a new one.
For me EVE works absolutly good in this config. It also works with BFBC2 @ 5760x1200 - but remember Temo Jick if your want to play shooters or other 3D games: Originally by: Temo Jick [...] Yes you can run a three monitor setup with just the one card, but remember every monitor you add multiplies the number of pixels that graphics card has to render. If youÆre running at a resolution of 1680 by 1050 now, your GPU is rendering 1,764,000 pixels with two more monitors youÆre looking at 5040 by 1050, thatÆs 5,292,000 pixels!
ThatÆs one heck of a lot of work for a single card to do. Add some full screen rendering options like anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering to that and your frame rate is going to take one heck of a hit, even with a top quality GPU. [...]
I hope this is helpful.
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Enraged Stoat
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Posted - 2011.02.02 08:23:00 -
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Nice if one card will do it all. Confirming random nVidia cards will happily drive three screens, here's a 30" and two 24"s hanging off a GTX260 and a 9500GT (in a pcie 1x slot no less).
FPS was fine but then I was just flying around moving some items, didn't get into any big fights, or any fights at all 
Wheeeee
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