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Mechanoid Kryten
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Posted - 2011.01.05 05:30:00 -
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I am organizing a counter-contest against Hulkageddon 4. The object is to kill as many gankers on they way into or out of systems, or at least get kill mails by webbing/scramming or shooting them while CONCORD kills them during a gank to lower their pvp rating. There will be prizes!
Details here:
http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/
I ran a fleet of this nature once before with my corp, and then contest-style with my alliance. Now that I closed my corp, I'd like to run this with all of you. Lets take back high sec!
(Name Griefergeddon suggested by my former corpmember DeltaAgent) |
Allegar
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Posted - 2011.01.05 06:56:00 -
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well you could have waited till after my event to see how smoothly that could have gone. maybe even started a coordinated event
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Mechanoid Kryten
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Posted - 2011.01.05 15:33:00 -
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Al, my event is after yours by about a month. H4 is in february.
Btw Al, if you want to BE ganked, try filling your hauler with bpc. They look like bpo to a cargo scan. Found that out the hard way
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.01.06 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 06/01/2011 00:33:56 When, exactly, is Hulkageddon anyway?
-Liang
Ed: Also, you should get more prizes, and maybe see if you can find more people to add to the prizes. :) -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter - Blog got deleted when Evepress died - |
Hesperius
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2011.01.06 00:50:00 -
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I was going to do this anyway with an alt. Ive got a few questions for you:
What is the point system? How much are pods worth? Have you looked into keeping your very hard earned isk and getting sponsors for this?
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Mechanoid Kryten
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Posted - 2011.01.06 01:22:00 -
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Liang,
I am the last person to know when Hulkageddon 4 is going to be. In the Crime and Punishment section, you can see the originators of Hulkageddon plotting it. All I know is that it will be in February, and it seems to be longer each time. I want the resistance to be ready ahead of time, of course.
As for prizes, I agree completely. I really need more people to add to the prizes. They can be sent to https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Eve%20Industrialist
Please send them to my alt so I can keep track of them and return them if I had to.
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Hesperius,
The point system is described on
http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/p/contest-rules.html
Pods are worth variable amounts. I'm very afraid that someone will kill an innocent pod and claim a prize intended to help prevent griefing. So for a pod to count it must fulfill the criteria listed on the rules section above. It must either come with a ship kill where concord was shooting the ship (5 points), have a -5 or lower sec standing (2 points), or belong to a pilot that has successful exhumer kills on the hulkageddon 4 kill boards (2 points). Also one pod per pilot. If anyone sees and exploitable holes in these rules, please let me know in-game.
As for my "very hard earned isk," I dreamed of using 1 billion to jump-start a Griefer-Geddon for a while now but corp obligations prevented it. I'm starting now with a lesser amount because I enjoy using the symbolism of a 38-hour high-sec marathon-mine being used to fund a Hulkageddon resistance. But yes, if Griefer-Geddon is to achieve success, it desperately needs more prizes and sponsors. I'm sure in the next month I'll get at least a few more donations.
I do have an additional 500,000,000 isk promise from a miner, and I will list it on the prizes section: http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/p/prizes.html as soon as he's actually mined it up for us.
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Mechanoid Kryten
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Posted - 2011.01.06 20:00:00 -
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Bump.
P.s. if you think resisting hulkageddon is a good idea, forward http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com to your corp or friends who may be interested but don't follow forums.
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Mechanoid Kryten
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Posted - 2011.01.10 14:27:00 -
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bump.
Got another 100m donation. So first prize now for killing the most gankers this Hulkageddon is 840m + Ashimu blue print. (And I have a couple other promises totaling about 1b, once I actually have them I'll post them on the site).
Support Griefer-Geddon, Eve's only organized Hulkageddon resistance. Leave a comment on http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/ or leave a comment on this thread if you will be participating. Lets make Hulkageddon harder by making sure their pods don't come back out!
And and if you don't want to hunt pods, but hope others would do it for you, donate a prize. The Hulkageddon guys seem to be doing it publicly on the chat boards, probably to prevent fraud, so go ahead and name your prize here first before donating it.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.01.10 20:16:00 -
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Stop griefing us!
Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
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Anyura
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Posted - 2011.01.11 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Stop griefing us!
Yeah! What did we ever do to you? Oh wait.
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Commander Dirtbag
Amarr Hemastatic
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Posted - 2011.01.11 06:38:00 -
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I personally guarantee that there is NO WAY that this is a scam. In support for this noble endeavor, I will be handling all prizes. Please contract them all to me and I will deliver them to the winners at the end of the contest.
Fly safe, Commander Dirtbag Yeah, I'm a Dirtbag. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.01.11 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Dirtbag I personally guarantee that there is NO WAY that this is a scam. In support for this noble endeavor, I will be handling all prizes. Please contract them all to me and I will deliver them to the winners at the end of the contest.
Fly safe, Commander Dirtbag
I personally vouch for him
Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
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BobFenner
Gallente Black Hole Runners
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Posted - 2011.01.11 10:01:00 -
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Please do not send anything to anyone else apart from in the links described by the op. The above two guys are trying to a hijack a genuine response to Hulkageddon. I am the pilot donating the ashimmu blueprint to Mech and wish her all the best.
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Marcus Atehcs
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Posted - 2011.01.11 14:04:00 -
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I am Lurianul, donator of the 500mil Most kills prize. Please ensure that all kill mails are sent to either Mechaniod Kryten or at http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/
I am honored to sponsored this resistance to hulkageddon which should add a great element of game play.
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Lurianul
Kryten's Headache Brainfarts
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Posted - 2011.01.11 14:09:00 -
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I am Lurianul, donator of the 500mil Most kills prize. Please ensure that all kill mails are sent to either Mechaniod Kryten or at http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/
I am honored to sponsored this resistance to hulkageddon which should add a great element of game play. ---------------- Some people like PvP, and some people like things more respectable. Me, I just like donuts. |
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.11 18:59:00 -
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So I put up my isk as a prize and people wonder why I don't keep it and solicit prizes instead. I start solicing prizes and people think its a scam. So far I have 1.5 bil in prizes mostly from former corp members of my now closed corp with whom I have done corp-wide griefer-geddon runs before. I am looking at possibly another 1b coming in soon. This is not counting the free eve-industrialist.com account I am setting up for anyone who gets even one "kill" by attaching a scram to a hulk. If you wonder if this is legit or not try winning the free account at least this feb! I am only asking for prizes to motivate participants to join. What I really want to see is pirates giving up on ganking because they can't pay for their med clone and making high sec just a little safer for the rest of us.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.01.12 04:27:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 12/01/2011 04:32:36 Last Hulkageddon had 14b in prizes... you can't win, we're better than you
*Edit: And please stop using the suffix -geddon, that's our thing. You go get your own thing
Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.12 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mechanoid Kryten on 12/01/2011 05:00:04
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny And please stop using the suffix -geddon, that's our thing. You go get your own thing
Griefer-ocalypse?
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The Crushah
Gallente The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.01.12 05:52:00 -
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Personally I prefer Yourmomageddon.
My experience has been that anti-griefing efforts usually fail miserably. If I kill a Hulk, its usually either with one shot ala arty apoc or by death by 1000 papercuts with destroyers. Either way, the Hulk is gonna die and the mission is complete. Personally I dont care if I lose my pod, I dont have any implants.
Besides, you guys lack the stones to actually enter low-sec and fight.
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Ospie
The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.01.12 09:27:00 -
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So if I kill hulkageddon suicide gankers with my smartbomb BS do I get prizes?
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.13 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: Mechanoid Kryten on 13/01/2011 02:06:46 Edited by: Mechanoid Kryten on 13/01/2011 02:05:18 I certainly seem to have attracted a lot of attention from The Python Cartel.
The first fleet of this nature I ran with my corp transformed corp chat from "CCP sucks they should ban hulkageddon" into a fleet of people enjoying this game and having fun. To me, that fleet did what I intended for my corp, even though we only actually killed one pod. The second time I ran this as a contest for my alliance, it got a certain drunken pvper in my corp to hunt gankers and win a small prize instead of joining Hulkageddon on his alt, and winning nothing. This was also as I intended. Even though we only killed a few pods.
As to the success or failure of this endeavor, I cannot speak. It will depend entirely on the number of people who actively join. If my counter-event remains small, then there is less competition and more chances to win a prize for those who do participate.
To that end, I have completed the preliminary "Combat Tips" section. http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/p/combat-tips-for-gg.html
If you hope to join on the side of laid back miners who like to drink beer while watching tv or in my case, code eve-related applications, you need to read the combat tips. (And if they seem too obvious, leave some combat tips of your own!)
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Piscis
Gallente The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.01.13 08:44:00 -
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Your counter contest has already failed before it begins.
The reason is obvious. As a carebear you have no idea how to kill fellow players. You will break out into a rash and the itch will consume you.
I suggest you go vist an agent and do a mission or two while your macro miners die the death they deserve.
We are the Defenders of Pen isLand and we will rid it of the plague that is carebear! Eve is a cold hard game and we are here to educate you of this fact. DIE!
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Lachesis VII
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2011.01.13 09:16:00 -
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Be our guest.
Just be prepared for the honorable denizens of lowsec to game your contest so completely that you end up either a) paying out all the prizes to the pilots you seek to punish or b) cause your contest to lose all credibility due to being unable to distinguish legitimate kill reports from illegitimate ones. Or, possibly, both.
Face it, we win. It's just the nature of griefing. He who acts second may as well not act at all.
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Lyssa Ruiz
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Posted - 2011.01.13 15:41:00 -
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This is going to fail. Either OP is an alt running a scam (of which I approve) or he is a carebear seriously overestimating his chances of success and destined to die often and miserably (of which I also approve).
That being said, I think it would be awesome if you bears would fight back against Hulkageddon. Seriously, I do. Think about it: You're threatening PVPers with PVP. That's like threatening a fat kid that if he doesn't behave you'll give him cake!
Yeah, that'll definitely work.
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Mike Azariah
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Posted - 2011.01.14 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Mike Azariah on 14/01/2011 01:25:27 Either way, I see you Pythons as approving of this . . .
Game it all you like. Kill your competition
Kill yourselves.
You win the prizes and Kry gets laughs. Do you think that it matters whether it is a carebear or a pirate who gets the kill? Do you suppose that there will be tears shed as payouts go to a Python member? You are right gaming it is easy, send one member in with the ganking crew to fire on his own folks, kill mails accumulate accordingly. But then . . . wait. Kry has managed to get you to turn on yourselves . . . .ooooo . . .you taught us carebears a lesson, yes sirree Bob.
Well done.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.14 02:25:00 -
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All good points here, good points.
One does not need to be an expert pvper to win at Griefer-Geddon (aka Griefer-ocalypse ). We are, after all, either fighting along-side CONCORD ... or against pods. It is also very hard to manage to die in this situation.
Whether I, personally, can pvp or not is not the question. Nothing says a pvper can't join this contest. All he would need to do is refrain from shooting miners for the duration of the current Hulkagedon to qualify. If mercenary types win the "most kills" part of this event by a far margin, then next time I will make sure to have some lesser prizes that would be more likely to be won by actual miners. Perhaps "best bait hulk fit" for a hulk that attracted and survived the most ganks?
I am deeply concerned about fraud, especially about accidentally paying out for a suicide gank of an innocent. I am aware that I cannot catch all fraud all by myself. That's why in addition to verifying the winner with an API Key, I'll have a pvper who's played this game for many years look over the doubtful kills.
Still, if you think Griefer-Geddon is a good time to pod your wanted pirate character with your alt for the bounty, you are welcome to my "participation" prize: a free eve-industrialist.com account. And if someone stages an elaborate fraud to win that isn't caught, it would take much time and effort and many alts. This is time and effort taken away from participating in Hulkageddon. While I would regret to find out that my isk went to a fraudster, this would still be a win if it keeps said fraudster from ganking a few miners.
I do not macro-mine or "own" any macro-miners. I do not approve of macros. Unlike macro-miners, at least griefers are playing this game by the rules and not cheating at it!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.01.14 04:21:00 -
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If you can catch a pod in highsec I salute you o7
Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.14 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny If you can catch a pod in highsec I salute you o7
But here are some of the results of the last Alliance-wide contest I ran of this nature. The first is from our contest winner, the second is from someone who taught me that not all pods are red after a gank through this sacrifice. I did this over eve-mail with them, and not set up a killboard for my alliance because I was not concerned with fraud.
I personally, did not catch any pods. My bait hulk that no one fell for couldn't target in time. While we only managed to kill one pod belonging to The Hermit the first time we did this in H2, these are just some of the pod kills we have for H3.
KILL....
2010.07.11 17:32:00
Victim: TheHermit Corp: The Bastards Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Catalyst System: Vaurent Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 806
Involved parties:
Name: Gallente Police Captain / Federation Customs Damage Done: 806
Name: CONCORD Police Captain / CONCORD Damage Done: 0
Name: Zaramoth (laid the final blow) Security: 4.2 Corp: Smegineer's Alliance: Brainfarts Faction: NONE Ship: Nemesis Weapon: Warp Disruptor II Damage Done: 0
Destroyed items:
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 24 Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, Qty: 2 Light Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 3
Dropped items:
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 40 Warp Scrambler I Light Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 5
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POD...
2010.07.11 17:33:00
Victim: Leroxee Corp: The Bastards Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: Vaurent Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 433
Involved parties:
Name: Zaramoth (laid the final blow) Security: 4.2 Corp: Smegineer's Alliance: Brainfarts Faction: NONE Ship: Nemesis Weapon: Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Damage Done: 433
2010.07.17 18:48:00
Victim: TheHermit Corp: The Bastards Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Catalyst System: Ardallabier Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 260
Involved parties:
Name: CONCORD Police Captain / CONCORD Damage Done: 260
Name: Gallente Police Captain / Federation Customs Damage Done: 0
Name: Zaramoth (laid the final blow) Security: 4.2 Corp: Smegineer's Alliance: Brainfarts Faction: NONE Ship: Daredevil Weapon: Warp Disruptor II Damage Done: 0
Destroyed items:
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 15 Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, Qty: 2 Light Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 4
Dropped items:
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 25 Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Light Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 4
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2010.07.17 18:49:00
Victim: TheHermit Corp: The Bastards Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: Ardallabier Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 439
Involved parties:
Name: Zaramoth (laid the final blow) Security: 4.2 Corp: Smegineer's Alliance: Brainfarts Faction: NONE Ship: Daredevil Weapon: Light Neutron Blaster II Damage Done: 439
2010.07.11 00:24:00
Victim: Alajandro Xeak Corp: Imperial Shipment Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Punisher System: Aydoteaux Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 331
Involved parties:
Name: CONCORD Police Captain / CONCORD Damage Done: 331
Name: Chabo ****zle (laid the final blow) Security: 0.2 Corp: Maridonia Alliance: Brainfarts Faction: NONE Ship: Catalyst Weapon: 75mm Gatling Rail I Damage Done: 0
Destroyed items:
Multifrequency S Dual Light Beam Laser I
Dropped items:
Medium Modal Laser I Multifrequency S, Qty: 2 Medium Beam Laser I
2010.07.11 00:27:00
Victim: Alajandro Xeak Corp: Imperial Shipment Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: Aydoteaux Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 130
Involved parties:
Name: Chabo ****zle (laid the final blow) Security: -2.4 Corp: Maridonia Alliance: Brainfarts Faction: NONE Ship: Catalyst Weapon: 75mm Gatling Rail I Damage Done: 130
But you may now salute the corp I ran for over a year -- the former Smegineer's!
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.14 16:00:00 -
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You know, Hulkageddon wouldn't have been a big deal to anyone if the bots weren't around.
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GANKEYY
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Posted - 2011.01.16 23:47:00 -
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we shall join you on you hunt cuz we were planning our own fight anyway
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.20 05:25:00 -
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Since the Python Cartel quit bumping this thread for me, it seems I have to do it myself.
But I now have enough (known to me) participants in GrieferGeddon that by my standards it will be a success. These include a large alliance and a professional pirate who will switch sides for the duration of the contest, which means at least he will refrain from shooting hulks in H4. That is already a success for GrieferGeddon.
Join the resistance. Help us take back high sec.
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Midnight Hour
KARMA6EDDON
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Posted - 2011.01.22 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah My experience has been that anti-griefing efforts usually fail miserably. If I kill a Hulk, its usually either with one shot ala arty apoc or by death by 1000 papercuts with destroyers. Either way, the Hulk is gonna die and the mission is complete. Personally I dont care if I lose my pod, I dont have any implants.
Besides, you guys lack the stones to actually enter low-sec and fight.
This whole quote is hilarious not only because the Hulkageddon wimps are high-sec gankers only going after helpless mining barges, but also because anti-Hulkageddon actions DO work. I know because my corpies and I consistently tracked Hulkageddon gankers and publicly called them out on local chat in every system they would try and gank in, and they slinked away without attacking anyone every single time, period.
Now THAT was even funnier than you are.
The best thing is that players don't even have to invest one single skill point of training anything to accomplish what we do; even a total newbie or brand new alt can fly around in a newbie ship or shuttle, warning the public at large when Hulkageddon ganker groups are incoming and name them publicly so everyone knows right when they fly in. It's easy, funny, and turns the tables on the gankers: They try to control what other people can or cannot do with their gaming accounts online, so we do it back to them by preventing them from A.) ganking miners and B.) winning prizes.
Of course, you can also use an alt to infiltrate their gangs, get intel, and even fly out with them to a gank site. Then when they attack the miner, you can jam the gankers, rep the miner, or refuse to provide any DPS to kill the miner with so they're short on manpower until Concord gets there. A total newbie could even ram the gankers, or just suddenly drop off the gang as they attack, claiming disconnect problems or whatever. They still will be shorter on DPS than they planned on. All you have to do is stall kills until Concord gets there, which in all but .5 or .6 systems is pretty darned quick these days.
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BiggerDangDude
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:25:00 -
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This is a horrible idea and you should feel horrible for even suggesting it.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.25 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: Mechanoid Kryten on 25/01/2011 05:40:00 Edited by: Mechanoid Kryten on 25/01/2011 05:38:14 Good ideas there Midnight.
Disregarding other forum posts, the latest official dates of Hulkageddon 4(and therefore GrieferGeddon) are Feb 19th to the 28th.
Speaking of GrieferGeddon, A few small token prizes have been donated and now added to the prize list.
One totally new prize will be a counter their "tears" section. It will be the reverse of tears: the best evidence of a industrialist staying cool under verbal provocation, and refraining from smack-talking back. If a griefer tries to bait you or smack-talk you, and you chose to respond to the griefers but do so coolly and demonstrate an incapability of being provoked into a rash action or into contributing "carebear tears" -- or smack-talking back -- you will win this prize and your convo (chat log or messages or what-not) will be posted on an a new tab I will create on http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/ for this.
Don't let your convo end up on the Hulkageddon 4 "tears" section or a griefer's bio listing you as one of the people who hates them.
I would not try to win this prize myself if it was offered to me -- sometimes silence is golden -- but there needs to be some counter to the "tears" section of Hulkageddon or Griefer-Geddon would not be complete.
Remember, you don't need to be entirely free of hulk/mack kills to participate in Griefer-Geddon. You just need to avoid having any valid Hulkageddon 4 kills between Feb 19 to 28th!
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Zaruda
Minmatar Combat and Recon The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2011.01.25 11:33:00 -
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I think Hulkageddon is good, well not for the bots which is usely my targets. Bots are what turns this game upside down, so I use this event to hunt down bots and try to get a prize. But u are not botting I will not even think about you. After all the real goal of Hulkageddon is kill the bots. But if you all are bot lovers then I can see why yall are so sour, .
BOTTERS BEWARE FOR I AM ON THE HUNT
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.25 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zaruda I think Hulkageddon is good, well not for the bots which is usely my targets. Bots are what turns this game upside down, so I use this event to hunt down bots and try to get a prize. But u are not botting I will not even think about you. After all the real goal of Hulkageddon is kill the bots. But if you all are bot lovers then I can see why yall are so sour, .
BOTTERS BEWARE FOR I AM ON THE HUNT
Assuming you really believe this, and you seem sincere, lets dissect this for a moment.
Firstly, if you made any effort at all to tell macro from non-macro -- and a simple attempt at a convo would work or observing mining technique for imperfections -- I would believe this. OR even if you killed just the shuttle-miners (people who haul once their cargo is full) but not jet-can miners (most macros I've seen shuttle-mine) I would take your point as a valid point and in fact support Hulkageddon. (of course macros would then learn to jet-can and next time some other method would need to be found). But this is not the case. There is no effort at all to tell macro from non-macro.
Instead of any effort to kill macros, what you have is a "tears" award for the most pain caused to a fellow player, and last time there was a "griefing" award for the most repeated kills of a single player. Do macros have "tears" for you to enjoy? Last I heard macros warp to a belt and try to mine in a pod, not provide "tears" that griefers thrive on.
According to the confessions of a botter, the largest botters are a) large alliances like MM and a couple others b) ratters not miners c) so pervasive CCP can't -- or won't -- harm them. These people with multiple macro accounts in large alliances clearly know Hulkageddon is coming and if they chose not to dock up their macro Hulks for a week it's only because they make trillions a day and the billion or so they lose in Hulkageddon would not touch them. So who doesn't know Hulkageddon is coming? Mostly it will be noobs who don't read forums or have corps to inform them of this event. Also stubborn miners like me will be mining.
If you made any effort at all to just kill macros, I would support Hulkageddon. But instead it's a concentrated effort to punish people who just like to (or in the case of some noobs) need to sit stationary in a belt and watch some TV after a stressful day at work.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.27 14:15:00 -
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bump.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Piscis Your counter contest has already failed before it begins.
The reason is obvious. As a carebear you have no idea how to kill fellow players. You will break out into a rash and the itch will consume you.
I suggest you go vist an agent and do a mission or two while your macro miners die the death they deserve.
We are the Defenders of Pen isLand and we will rid it of the plague that is carebear! Eve is a cold hard game and we are here to educate you of this fact. DIE!
Originally by: Lyssa Ruiz This is going to fail. Either OP is an alt running a scam (of which I approve) or he is a carebear seriously overestimating his chances of success and destined to die often and miserably (of which I also approve).
That being said, I think it would be awesome if you bears would fight back against Hulkageddon. Seriously, I do. Think about it: You're threatening PVPers with PVP. That's like threatening a fat kid that if he doesn't behave you'll give him cake!
Yeah, that'll definitely work.
Actually, this makes a lot of sense. Think with your brain instead of ep3n0r5 for a minute. Post insurance nerf, insured BS costs money. Sure, if it's a pimpboat with billion isk drops, it's nothing. But chaining hulks? Using dessie gang is cheaper, but cost sec at a faster rate, which has to be ratted back up within limited timeframe of the event. I had problems with sec the last hulkagadden.
This thing, on the other hand, cost basically nothing. You only need a cheap frig, or even rookie ship, with at most a point to hold the victim until concord arrive. No standing cost either. At worst, it turns out to be a scam. What do you lose? Ships? Sec? Nothing. You gain a bunch of kms to pad your kb regardless. I'm seriously considering switching sides this round. It just makes more sense, in theory at least. In practice, we'll have to see how easy it is to catch gankers at the right time.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.28 19:08:00 -
[39]
Thank you Goose.
You must however notice that the comments you quoted came from the Python Cartel, who are the organizers of Hulkageddon and are therefore not entirely unbiased in their oppinions.
It would be an honor if an experienced pvper such as yourself would join us on the side of the miners. You would not be the first one to switch sides. I would value your participation twice once from the point of view of another defender of the casual players and once for the hulks that go unkilled by you!
I do not know how to address the scam concerns. Maybe next time I will learn how these 3rd party services work. I am proud of my carebear nature and ashamed of my kills, so it was rather traumatic for me to be accused of being Helicity's alt as part of organizing this resistance. I resolved that one by handing out my limited api key and my accusers promise to fight on our side this H4.
I hate to question an experienced pvper but I don't think I can target in time with a noob ship. I can in a t2 frig or 2 t1 frigs boosting each other. Probably a skills and practice issue.
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Common Origin
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Posted - 2011.01.29 05:55:00 -
[40]
Haven't flew noobship in a while, but resolution can't be that bad. Locking isn't a crime, don't need to wait until they gcc. If it's BS it'll lock fast. The small stuff tend to take a second crawling up to the barge before opening up. Either way a t1 frig should catch something before concord blasts it, they don't show up that fast.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.01.31 23:01:00 -
[41]
True that. I hadn't tried targeting them first for fear they'd know something's wrong and move elsewhere for their ganking. But it's certainly an option. I'll probably do that on my "bait" hulk this time around.
Anyone who has ideas like these should leave a comment on the combat tips section http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/p/combat-tips-for-gg.html
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.04 04:43:00 -
[42]
Well we got a whole lotta new donations all of a sudden! 200m isk, 75m isk, a PLEX, and some ships coming promised by the donor of the 200m. site will be updated accordingly soon.
Also attracted 20 or so hits from a macro mining site. Told them gowway and quit mining my rocks, and they politely seems to have done the former.
And yes, this was a bump.
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Shieko Chan
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Posted - 2011.02.04 08:09:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Henry Haphorn You know, Hulkageddon wouldn't have been a big deal to anyone if the bots weren't around.
Here we go again with the fake outrage over people that may not even be bots.
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Turiko
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Posted - 2011.02.04 09:10:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Turiko on 04/02/2011 09:15:16 Edited by: Turiko on 04/02/2011 09:11:45 Edited by: Turiko on 04/02/2011 09:11:17 Edited by: Turiko on 04/02/2011 09:10:58 I wish you guys the best of luck. Perhaps i will be on the lookout to kill a griefer here and there as well. However, i don't believe hunting griefers will work all that well - better to either set traps or go to busy systems' belts with a logi ship :). The second is almost guaranteed to waste their time and isk, and possibly tick them off - efficient smacktalking :).
Be careful though. Hulkageddon has become Griefer's paradise - besides mining ships, freighters, noctis' and even the limited-run primae have become a target. I guess next year shuttles and cov-ops will be added to the list as well.
EDIT: grief-ageddon is censored? <.<
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Weesa Wanderstar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.05 03:05:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Weesa Wanderstar on 05/02/2011 03:05:49
Originally by: Shieko Chan
Originally by: Henry Haphorn You know, Hulkageddon wouldn't have been a big deal to anyone if the bots weren't around.
Here we go again with the fake outrage over people that may not even be bots.
It's an excuse.. and a lame one but whatever floats your boat.
this...
kinda like the mugger that says as a joke "this is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you"
tears section on the hulkagedon web site is a sign of it just being for the ha-has and all that...not that there is anything wrong with it...
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.06 21:15:00 -
[46]
Turiko, I agree with you that a logistics / RR approach is tactically a better one than killing gankers. However, how do you motivate vast numbers of people to do that on their own? If we make a contest, how can there be proof of who did what?
This approach can be combined with my contest IF the ship being healed has drones out. The drones will get the ship a kill mail thanks to the RR. But I can't seem to come up with a prize that would reflect the aid of RR.
Speaking of prizes, someone donated a friggin Nightmare! This is the new 2nd prize. We also got plex and a couple faction frigs and a Mack (unlisted on site as of now) as prizes.
Can anyone help me come up with *testable* prize ideas for all these things besides lumping all these items into top 5 prizes? especially a prize that rewards RR of miners would be nice.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:28:00 -
[47]
just learned that an RR ship gets on a kill mail only if the ship it's repping dies. Maybe I'll make a RR prize next time using video capture as a proof mechanism.
Yes, this was a bump.
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Maxtis Anstian
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Posted - 2011.02.10 08:20:00 -
[48]
By all the responses python has posted I think they see this as a real threat. I'm in full support of this and am encourageing members of my aliance to participate. We already have several hulk traps planned in the Forge area and will gladly compete.
Also may I suggest Bonus points be awarded for killing previous hulkageddon prize winners, and a known Hulkageddon participant list be created.
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Earis3
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Posted - 2011.02.10 14:29:00 -
[49]
Are you going to be opening up a chat channel for people that want to help?
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Midnight Hour
KARMA6EDDON
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Posted - 2011.02.10 21:28:00 -
[50]
A chat channel is a great idea!
I notice that the Hulkageddon 4 channel not only exists now but is password protected already. I guess we made more of a dent in their plans last time than they care to admit.
Spy time!
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Earis3
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Posted - 2011.02.11 01:28:00 -
[51]
Yep, Im really looking forward to this now and can see it coming together, think we need some channel open to discuss anything or just report things as the day/evening goes by, although like the other side have I think we need to limit chat to reports or questions not too much information that they may be able to use against us.
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Niv Verdeen
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:11:00 -
[52]
Okay I am using an alt to respond as my main is a solo jet-can miner while I skill up and of course get some standing doing missions. I cannot afford someone targeting positive respondents to this so I don't want my main know. I think this is a great idea and I like the fact it has a low "combat" skill requirement to participate. If I thought for one minute Hulkageddon was about killing bots I would find a way to participate but in truth I feel it is about 2 things. One is to raise prices of all non-combat ships (hulks, freighters, noctis, etc) so those organizing it can profit. The other is all about someone getting their ego stroked by killing others online and hearing them "cry" about it. This is what I feel the major reason they do Hulkageddon for is to stroke their very small egos. I think these folks are most likely the 30yo single guys who sit in a basement room at their mother's eating pizza and plating games because they have no real life. I could be wrong but to me it seems these folks live just for this and in truth they need to get out more maybe find a nice (or in their case any will do) girl/boy depending on preference and lose their virginity. Who knows if they do they might actually like it and learn to live in the real world rather than online stroking themselves because they just killed a noob. Personally the Retriever will be docked and I will mission or perhaps not play and go out with friends definitely I will have relations with my wife. Maybe though just maybe I will be in game with a tanked out frig and warp scrambler wandering high sec looking for griefers and hold them for Concord and get my own kill mail. Maybe just maybe if I do I can get some griefer's tears.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:13:00 -
[53]
Earis I agree. Some1 tried 2 make a chat channel before called Anti-Hulkagedon tho I quit hanging out in there cuz organizing GG while writing eve related app and factoring in RL family (yes I play RL sometimes 2 take a brek from eve) was enough 4 me w/o recruiting 4 someone's chat channel as well. The risk w chat is as u say giving away too much. If u want 2 use that channel 4 this I will start using it again. (Change in writing style caused by cell phone key board)
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.11 23:43:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Mechanoid Kryten on 11/02/2011 23:43:10 Maxtis, the reason I'm not including past hulkageddon participants is that I want people to be able to stop and switch sides. I was originally thinking to make all gankers valid targets. But there was one ganker who wanted to switch sides if he could. He who will stop hunting retrievers in destroyers long enough to switch sides for GrieferGeddon. He's not entirely lost to that side of things since he likes things like action, explosions, and isk (making him a pvper by nature) rather than enjoying ruining someone's day. If we allowed for the killing of past Hulkageddon participants, he would then be disqualified from GrieferGeddon and would choose to gank Hulks instead, thus leading a perfectly good pvper into a more griefing lifestyle. I'd rather leave the door open for Hulkageddon participants to switch sides -- or at least STOP shooting miners. By declaring open season on all of them with prizes they would not be able to do that. It would be kinda like when Batman does something like throws acid on 2-face or denies the Riddler's inventions and by doing so creates his own villains in the first place :)
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Vermillion Sands
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Posted - 2011.02.12 20:51:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Vermillion Sands on 12/02/2011 20:52:27 Hi MK I am all for your anti-geddon drive (I have been on the receiving end of a hulkageddon) but I am unclear as to your objectives regarding targets....i.e. are you looking to kill pods or ships? I ask because killing pods is extremely difficult and flying small ships normally means you get popped along with the mining barges due to smartbomb tactics employed by the gankers. I would personally be happier going with a long-range cruiser (or HAC) and getting myself in with Concords killmails on their ships. Any advice is welcome
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.14 06:08:00 -
[56]
Shooting just the ships from long range should get you a few points. If that's all you're doing, try to add something that gives the miners more chance of surviving until concord arrives, like ECM. Tracking Disruptors are good too because they are long-range. But since gankers already gave up their ships for lost when they got in them, shooting ships alongside CONCORD without going for their pods is mostly a symbolic effort. it gives you "kills" and gives them "losses" to lower their pvp rating, and every little bit helps. I have a prize for most ship kills w/o any pod kills, I called it the "better podding next time" award, you can certainly try to aim for that one on purpose :)
Their pods though they don't expect to lose, as evidenced by all the people telling me they are impossible to catch. that's why I made the pods more points.
But every little bit helps.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.15 14:33:00 -
[57]
Over 4 billion in prizes has been collected
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.15 20:23:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Mechanoid Kryten and it seems to be longer each time.
Wonder if there will come a time when it never ends lol
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:46:00 -
[59]
Make that almost 5b in pizes!
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Bacon Baron
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Posted - 2011.02.17 08:53:00 -
[60]
While I think this event will fail miserably, this (as well as Hulkageddon) is what sets EVE apart.
On the other hand, you could just avoid any issue with Hulkageddon by NOT MINING (OH NO, imagine that!)... So in the end, this event is kind of stupid.
Good luck trying to fight people who live by Rule 14...
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:00:00 -
[61]
While not mining for a week sounds easy, try doing it in a corp of miners and the corp chat that then ensues. Also another forum poster pointed out try telling a pvper they can't do anything [I]but[/] mine 4 a week. Pvper will cry at that quite quick! My event gives an aditional option for both pvpers and miners during hulkageddon. My event was originally invented to save corp chat in a humor-based high sec corp and now that it is public has found many people who find it more fun than missioning for a week. Get 1000 page hits a day now.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.19 05:41:00 -
[62]
hell of a difference... hulkageddon's got near 500 kills, you guys have... 9
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Alvaliel
La-Resistance
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Posted - 2011.02.19 11:55:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira hell of a difference... hulkageddon's got near 500 kills, you guys have... 9
Sooo let me see: the gankers can roam about freely, choosing where & when they attack - anything & anywhere from a chance encounter with a random industrial slowboating it to a gate in a trade hub, to a (stupid) lone hulk in a belt in a border system... gates, stations, belts, it's all good.
The counter-gankers on the other hand, need to somehow be sitting ready & in weapons range, BEFORE the gankers start their attack and they then have 20 seconds max to get a lock & shot off before Concord shows up & pops everyone.
Do you expect the people taking part in griefer-geddon, people who normally don't take part in PvP & instead prefer to PvE, to sacrifice a lot of their hard earned security status & isk to suicide themselves against someone that they suspect may be a ganker? To just shoot everything yellow that they encounter & take the isk, sec status & GCC time wastage like a man?
Maybe they should all just organize and have 1 ship sitting in every belt & at every gate/station in high sec - twiddling their thumbs & doing nothing for a week in the hopes that gankers will show up... real fun & productive. That said, there are small groups of us hanging around in most heavy mining systems & ice fields but it is boring as hell (worse than mining in fact) as the gankers always seem to be attacking elsewhere.
Oh I know! We could war dec the Hulkageddon Orphanage and some of the companies taking part - PvE people & corps wardeccing pirate corps, what a fantastic idea and I'm sure that will end well! Taking away the only advantage (Concord) that the PvEers have in high sec...
Hell of a difference indeed - that's what happens when you force others to play a cowardly game by your rules.
Tell ya what though - get yourself down to outlaw status, give us a chance to shoot at you and then we'll see... although I have to say, even then it's hard to get a shot off as most outlaws & gankers seem to be taking the approach of waiting in a station while they scout with an alt before running out, ganking & running back to said station...
Yeah, you're totally right - we should be ashamed of ourselves, how could any self respecting miner NOT get a kill when all we have to do is use precrime techniques to predict when & where these fast moving roaming gangs will attack! |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.19 15:18:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 19/02/2011 15:23:06 Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 19/02/2011 15:18:49 Good job, yer up to 16 lol
Hulkageddon is up to 458 lol
a.) Im not a pirate, Im a missioner, well technically Im an alt b.) I wasnt going on some huge long winded tirade about how you are wrong for fighting back or whatever that giant post was about, I was laughing at the numbers. Thank you for proving you have far too thin a skin to be playing this game. c.) If you are suicide bombing yellows, this early into it, you might be targeting the wrong people... most Hulkageddon players have a long tradition of creating an alt to compete with, then biomasses them afterwards. So this early in, they shouldnt be yellow yet
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.19 19:27:00 -
[65]
We have so far encountered other people killing gankers who are doing it solo and not part of this event, and do not post on the kill board. Will need to do a better job of reaching them next time.
Given that this is a counter-event, and we kill a sub-set of people who gank, the lower numbers are too be expected. They are I admit somewhat lower than I'd hoped, but it's still early.
Anyone who has watched Red Dwarf, especially series 6 episode Gunmen of the Apocalypse, may find this illustration amusing http://noprisonersnomercy.com/tag/griefer-geddon/ Especially since they seem to have come to the Wild West theme without ever having seen the episode.
*looks around for some whiskey*
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.20 02:46:00 -
[66]
Some news from experience:
contrary to what they posted on the forums prior, they don't like to get podded.
While shooting non-red pods is a valid way of getting points, no one has done this yet. I don't understand the debate about this as if ganking in high sec does not result in -5 sec status eventually. We have, however, made good use of locator agents and existing -sec status pilots to pod them.
Also even those participants who have yet failed to get a kill watch gankers scatter and run away from their presence. Will need to come up with a prize to reflect this sort of effect next time -- a small prize of course since it would be entirely subjective -- scare crow award for most time spent scaring away would-be gankers w/o getting any/many kills.
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iErgo Proxy
Gallente The Awakening Depths
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:35:00 -
[67]
Edited by: iErgo Proxy on 20/02/2011 13:39:44 i'm in, i'm already kill a Bastard Anathema
http://griefergeddon.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=23
gogogo guys, kill those bastards
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Maverick2011
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Posted - 2011.02.21 15:25:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Maverick2011 on 21/02/2011 15:25:27 Funny as how small, pathethic and useless this event is, it was enough to call attention of "pvpers" afraid to die to a carebear. Funny to see them here saying they dont care or are not afraid when they could simply ignore this topic if they were real so sure of themselves.
You see the difference betwen a pvper and a griefer. The pvper didnt post. The griefer (wannabepvper)did. Thats why I respect a pvper as cruel as he can be, they still have their own sense of justice (like the good guys are the evil ones and should all die).
And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game. Trying to get rid of their real problems into a virtual world. Weak people.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.23 04:21:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Maverick2011 Edited by: Maverick2011 on 21/02/2011 15:25:27 Funny as how small, pathethic and useless this event is, it was enough to call attention of "pvpers" afraid to die to a carebear. Funny to see them here saying they dont care or are not afraid when they could simply ignore this topic if they were real so sure of themselves.
You see the difference betwen a pvper and a griefer. The pvper didnt post. The griefer (wannabepvper)did. Thats why I respect a pvper as cruel as he can be, they still have their own sense of justice (like the good guys are the evil ones and should all die).
And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game. Trying to get rid of their real problems into a virtual world. Weak people.
pretty much what I was saying in another thread where the griefergeddon guys tried to flame me for saying it lolz ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.24 00:43:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
pretty much what I was saying in another thread where the griefergeddon guys tried to flame me for saying it lolz
I think you meant "hulkageddon"
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Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
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Posted - 2011.02.25 06:35:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Pehk Mak''mel''ahma on 25/02/2011 06:36:08 Mechanoid:
As I mentioned in another thread, I planned to monitor both the Hulkageddon IV killboard and your own event's killboard. While Hulkageddon IV has had more kills, you did well with the numbers you have racked up. I hope the next 3 days go very well for you.
Congratulations!
Pehk
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2011.02.26 00:07:00 -
[72]
I'm one of the people taking part in griefer-geddon and I just wanted to say thanks to Kryten for all of his time, effort & hard work in organising this event - it's made hulkageddon into a fun(ish) challenge for me instead of a week to be avoided and it's thought me the basics of hunting targets in Eve... lord help me, I may be developing a taste for high sec gate camps :S
Speaking as a PvP newbie, it's been a blast in general and there's a LOT to be said for the thrill & satisfaction of the hunt - in trying to chase down a target, work out where they're going to be and come up with a strategy & fit to try to catch them.
There have been some lolsome & heart-pounding moments too - my favourite being my rifter taking down a Brutix... I was high sec gate camping expecting to see some destroyers jumping in from low sec, next thing the gate goes nuts, I ready my warp disruptor and blindly click on the first red thing that decloaks... imagine my pants soiling surprise when I see that it's a very angry looking Brutix and that I now can't stop the disruptor from locking on & activating :O
I bravely ran away as quick as I could but somehow my 3 seconds of point was enough to snare him for the local fuzz who took him down.
I've also gotten my first pod kills ever... much like high sec camping, I've got to admit that the rush is addictive and I can't help but corpse collect :S
I've ended up speaking to a few of the hulkageddoners as well and, as angry as this is going to make some people, it must be said that they're generally decent, down to earth guys with a good sense of humour... it is purely a fun game to them - a new set of challenges to play under, a change of pace & they also get a kick from strategising, organising & carrying out well planned ganks.
The naysayers may try to convince you that griefer-geddon doesn't make a difference to the activities of the hulkageddoners, and I have to admit that when I first started taking part in this I felt somewhat like that - it felt like it was just symbolic resistance more than anything else.
As the week has gone on however, I can say with full confidence that griefer-geddon HAS stopped some ganks and saved a few ships (e.g. when 2 or 3 destroyers from the gank group are picked off at gates) and it does make the life of the hulkageddoners that little bit inconvenient & uncomfortable... they have to be careful moving through high sec, keeping an eye out for those that might be hunting for them and podding is always a setback to them (though not a major one as they expect it to happen).
It makes a difference to some miners as well - I got an unexpected, but very much needed, donation from a hulkageddon victim as a thank you for happening to pod the guy who had blown up their barge... it's the little things like that, along with the more memorable hunts & catches that make it all worthwhile :)
Sooo there ya go... typed while sitting at a high sec gate, hoping & waiting for some targets to jump through...
It's still not too late to get involved and it's very easy to do - get into any sensor boosted ship (I'd recommend 1000 scan res absolute minimum), add a warp disruptor and head to wherever there's been ganks recently... use locator agents to figure out what routes are being used by the hulkageddoners, watch the hulkageddon killboard to see which systems are being hit and the rest is up to luck & timing.
Many thanks & congrats once again to Kryten for organising this great event & happy hunting all o/ |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.26 05:11:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Amael Galenus
The naysayers may try to convince you that griefer-geddon doesn't make a difference to the activities of the hulkageddoners
201 kills to 2931 huge difference you all made. GJ!
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raney ilara
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Posted - 2011.02.26 11:22:00 -
[74]
Quote: 201 kills to 2931 huge difference you all made. GJ!
That's actually pretty good. I would wager there are somewhat fewer grie***eddon players involved compared to hulkageddon players.
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2011.02.26 12:38:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Amael Galenus on 26/02/2011 12:40:50
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Originally by: Amael Galenus
The naysayers may try to convince you that griefer-geddon doesn't make a difference to the activities of the hulkageddoners
201 kills to 2931 huge difference you all made. GJ!
So this is like, what, your 5th time posting this comparison on the forums? Trying to put the event down? I'm glad to see this event really bugging you - you must be one of the fail gankers that keeps getting caught or podded repeatedly before you can reach your target or Concord shows up. You say that you're a miner & mission runner yet in other threads you've been asking for mission runners to be added to the list of targets and are celebrating hulkageddon ganks... if you're going to troll, it helps if you keep your true tendencies & desires hidden.
FYI it's currently 268 to 2888 - GJ on understating the griefer-geddon kills while exaggerating the hulkageddon numbers (especially seeing as how the latter hasn't reached 2931 at the time of this writing).
We've been holding at a 1:10 ratio for the last few days now - considering that there's only around 15 "regulars" in griefer-geddon, I'd say that this is exceptionally good... 15 people able to keep a 1:10 ratio against hundreds of hulkageddon participants? And as Alviel mentioned - it's even more exceptional when you consider that we have to be one step ahead of the Hulkageddoners at all times.
Anyway, it's clear from your obsession with raw kill numbers that you don't get the point of griefer-geddon, that you're a gatecamping stat padder who can't understand that 1 kill is not equal to another and that 1 kill can, and has, saved a miners ship thanks to this event.
Post with your main and let's see what you can do - can you succeed in either event? It doesn't look like it so far... |
Earis3
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Posted - 2011.02.26 14:16:00 -
[76]
well I was never into this to kill those that were griefing but more into annoying the hell out of the them while they try, my main thing has been to RR miners that needed it, yes I did help the main man, yes I have been wardecced for it, and you know what I would do it again in a heartbeat, teach these stupid wannabee carebear PVP's that pickng on a defenseless miner is not gonna be easy, Hulkagedoon has been fun, purely because I have stopped counteless gankers getting the kill - roll on next time - Mech good job and next time we will have them even better.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.26 20:28:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 26/02/2011 20:33:37
Originally by: Amael Galenus *tears*
moar tears!!
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1447354&page=2#55
This IS my main .... on this account lol But yea, no. Not gonna give away my corp so you can warec me cause I made you cry in rage on the forums, sorry :D
As far as "exaggerating" yeah... http://hulkageddon4.machine9.net/killboard/?&scl_id= learn to read maybe? and as far as your stats.... http://griefergeddon.griefwatch.net/?p=monthly Unless youre counting CONCORD kills too.......
And ... lol "gatecamping QQ QQ QQ *tears*" comment. Im a missioning carebear. Who loves to make puffed up self important ppl cry on the forums, nothing more.
And, no, the event isnt "bugging" me, collecting your tears is just too fun. I can see the reason hulkageddon goes on now if the miners tears are anything like this lol
man, I love you guys, really lol ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Mechanoid Kryten
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Posted - 2011.02.26 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Originally by: Maverick2011 Edited by: Maverick2011 on 21/02/2011 15:25:27 Funny as how small, pathethic and useless this event is, it was enough to call attention of "pvpers" afraid to die to a carebear. Funny to see them here saying they dont care or are not afraid when they could simply ignore this topic if they were real so sure of themselves.
You see the difference betwen a pvper and a griefer. The pvper didnt post. The griefer (wannabepvper)did. Thats why I respect a pvper as cruel as he can be, they still have their own sense of justice (like the good guys are the evil ones and should all die).
And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game. Trying to get rid of their real problems into a virtual world. Weak people.
pretty much what I was saying in another thread where the griefergeddon guys tried to flame me for saying it lolz
I have no oppinion as to the tears that miners have been spreading on other threads. However, ok, i'll bite. First there is "And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game" and then there is my "small, pathethic and useless" which is what you, Kensgutie "pretty much what I was saying in another thread"
Ok, kengutsi, so you don't really like anything and you want to as per your signature use your foot creatively on everybody's rear end. Ok I get it. But surely there is something you DO like? You couldn't possible be spending so much effort posting these posts if you liked nothing at all about eve.
You say you are a missioner. Ok. Do you like missions? What do you like about them? You clearly spend a lot of time on the forums reading these threads and responding to them quickly -- perhaps you are a big fan of eve forums?
C'mon I challenge you! say something nice about something or someone somewhere, even if it's only "I like the way Hellicity extracts tears!"
Here, I'll go first:
My event has fewer kills than the largest event in eve today. Ok fine. I'll admit that. But I have also enjoyed running it. Thanks to GrieferGeddon i was able to enjoy playing in the sandbox that is EVE. Instead of feeling bad about Hulkageddon, I'm somewhat sorry to see it go, and I even can't wait to see the next one. I discovered I like pvp -- provided that i can do it while mining. It's a real thrill watching a bunch of dessys warp into my belt knowing they are all gonna blow up and I won't. I'll miss them!
This is a game and I'm enjoying playing it my way. Sandbox and all that. And I now have an invitation to go on a roam with The Bastards, which I think I will accept if they can promise me no high sec greifing.
Now you go. What do you actually *enjoy*? anything? at all?
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.26 21:21:00 -
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roflmao a oltta stuff in the above youre assuming bud.... you know what assume does right?
My sig is a quote from "That 70's Show" so, no, I dont want to "as per your signature use your foot creatively on everybody's rear end."
But I gotta go out to a dinner. So when I return, ill reply further
Till then, making you reply like the above, I enjoy that... oooh an that 70s show more later ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.26 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Till then, making you reply like the above, I enjoy that... oooh an that 70s show more later
Been a while since i seen that 70's show. Maybe next time I'm marathon-mining I'll watch it after mining hour 20 or so. So who is your fav character? Bet u it's that guy with the sunglasses who sits in the back of the group all the time making comments.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.27 01:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 27/02/2011 02:01:17
Originally by: Mechanoid Kryten
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Till then, making you reply like the above, I enjoy that... oooh an that 70s show more later
Been a while since i seen that 70's show. Maybe next time I'm marathon-mining I'll watch it after mining hour 20 or so. So who is your fav character? Bet u it's that guy with the sunglasses who sits in the back of the group all the time making comments.
Either Red and his foot in the ass comments or Eric. Hyde is the guy yer thinking of
I like the game, I been spending a lotta time on the forums lately cause Im grinding my rep through Amar and running Is and IIs gets tiring. I like watching the purty explosions the ships make, the isk I make in blowin them up. I havent much been in the game today as literally all my mission systems have become sansha incursions and I dont wanna have anything to do with that. EVE forums are fun, ppl are serus biznus an all on this game so its easy to provoke explosions lol challenge accepted. I like my friends in EVE. Theyre fun to mission with. Hey, I like you too, yer reactions are fun too.
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Mechanoid Kryten
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Posted - 2011.02.28 02:01:00 -
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It's been a blast with 90 people posting on the kill board and 140 kills that were NOT joint-with-CONCORD kills.
The prizes have been tallied up (Thanks Amael Galenus) and his nice spread sheet that I'm going to upload to eve-files at some point so anyone that has any concerns can download and double-check once i double-check it myself and verify that it co-coincides with the kill board and with the api key info.
I'll EDIT this post when the spread sheet is available for download, but i won't bump this thread anymore, probably to everyone's relief.
I have not handed out the prizes yet as they are unverified. Will do so ASAP and update the prizes page on GrieferGeddon as each one is handed out. Espeically the No-Tears section may take a couple of weeks to update. I only have 3 submissions but there is a long convo that resulted in the retraction of a war dec that i want to post as an exmaple of anti-gankers getting along with a ganker with no tears involved.
This a fun ride and I promise to be there for the next Hulkageddon.
It was especially thrilling to make friends during this event. I am now on good terms with Ehnea's mack and will be posting my ore totals toward his event. I am on good terms with The Bastards and will be joining them for a roam (eeek!). And I may even be on good terms with Kengutsi Akira. I like you too, man, and thanks for bumping my thread for me so many, many times
Cya next time to make it harder on the gankers.
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Ehnea Mehk
Minmatar ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
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Posted - 2011.02.28 03:30:00 -
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Mechanoid, just wanted to congratulate you on a well-done event. It's not easy to run something in the face of Hulkaggedon but I think you did great. Give yourself a pat on the back and take pride in your efforts. Can't wait to see what you come up with next time when Hulkageddon V rolls around in the summertime!
Ehnea Mehk
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Graf Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.28 15:08:00 -
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Top individual Killer gets 2 Billion. 165 Iterons to win would have cost about 150 mill. Buy the ships get your friends/corp mates/Alts to fly to a nice safe place and blow them up and take top prize[s]
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2011.02.28 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ehnea Mehk Mechanoid, just wanted to congratulate you on a well-done event. It's not easy to run something in the face of Hulkaggedon but I think you did great. Give yourself a pat on the back and take pride in your efforts. Can't wait to see what you come up with next time when Hulkageddon V rolls around in the summertime!
Hear hear! Couldn't have said it better myself
Thanks & congrats once again Kryten - it has indeed been a blast and an experience... without you & griefer-geddon, I would never have had the opportunity to disco-geddon "The Bastards" or go outlaw hunting without getting a war dec, fun times! |
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