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Jasmin Go
Auryn Astrometric Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:11:00 -
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Hello,
I have recently returned from the game after a quite long absence. If I remember correctly, there used to be organized mining ops by someone that I could simply tuck along with a miner without being in their alliance or corp, and profits were split up evenly afterwards. Does my memory fail me here and I just imagined that, or is this still happening? And if so, where can I sign up? |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:52:00 -
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There are a number of such groups, I haven't seen the most popular one here for a while.
Must be Hulkageddon |
Jasmin Go
Auryn Astrometric Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.15 13:12:00 -
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Wilhelm Riley wrote:Must be Hulkageddon Ah yes, I have heard of that. But you kinda misunderstood me, I'd like to sell ore, not collect tears.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
1073
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:20:00 -
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Jasmin Go wrote:Wilhelm Riley wrote:Must be Hulkageddon Ah yes, I have heard of that. But you kinda misunderstood me, I'd like to sell ore, not collect tears.
And you misunderstand, HAG shut these planned ops down. They'll be back soon as the "kill 10x miners for 100m ISK" thing goes away (or not). |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
166
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:54:00 -
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Here is a good way to get ad-hoc [pick-up] mining (or anything) ops going in your mining system:
Since HAG made mining more interestesting for all concerned, we got the new mining ship changes and generally people are multiboxing.
Solution: Watch your local for miners and mark in their info notes the ships they fly - Orca, Hulk, Mack... etc. Make a Player channel [Local Mining Group] and invite people to join it. Form up a boosting fleet with the people you find and have in your channel, then people can build some trust and also socialize while mining, if things really get going you have the beginings of a corp if your in an NPC and have alot of the same - if not then you def have people to mine with regularly and the boosting helps everyone.
Win-Win.
Also, with this method - The Orca(s) can boost off-grid, and if people use Macks you can be scattered round the system making ganking harder, also ming more productive as your not stepping on eachothers rock/locks.
Hope that helps Look at all the Macks in local...impressive... very impressive... I see you have fashioned a new exhumer... much like you father's... your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen... |
Jasmin Go
Auryn Astrometric Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:18:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Jasmin Go wrote:Wilhelm Riley wrote:Must be Hulkageddon Ah yes, I have heard of that. But you kinda misunderstood me, I'd like to sell ore, not collect tears. And you misunderstand, HAG shut these planned ops down. They'll be back soon as the "kill 10x miners for 100m ISK" thing goes away (or not). You are right, I was the one who was misunderstanding, sorry
Aurelius Valentius, that sounds like a plan. |
Styth spiting
Ion Corp. NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:28:00 -
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Jasmin Go wrote:Velicitia wrote:Jasmin Go wrote:Wilhelm Riley wrote:Must be Hulkageddon Ah yes, I have heard of that. But you kinda misunderstood me, I'd like to sell ore, not collect tears. And you misunderstand, HAG shut these planned ops down. They'll be back soon as the "kill 10x miners for 100m ISK" thing goes away (or not). You are right, I was the one who was misunderstanding, sorry Aurelius Valentius, that sounds like a plan.
There are a few problems with doing mining op's with people you don't know, so you should be pretty careful about randomly joining ops.
- There is no guarantee they are going to pay you for your time. You could mine for several hours and then not get a payout.
- They may pay you, but you might have to wait until they decide to do the payouts, which could take days/weeks/whatever.
- You could join a fleet to only have them gank you. Players can warp to 0 to fleet members. I'm not saying the people running the fleet would do this (they could) but they might allow 2 - 3 people to randomly join who they don't know who then do gank you.
- It is very easy to manipulate fleet history, so unless you track every ore you mine it would be very easy to get shorted.
- They can very easily manipulate ore prices or come up with much smaller price amounts to payout less to you. 5% less payout price can add up to quite a bit.
You're really just better off joining an active corp that does mining op's frequently. Less hassle, easily available and you have trust that can be built with corp members, which is the most valuable resource in the eve universe. |
Idris Helion
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.15 19:37:00 -
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Styth spiting wrote:You're really just better off joining an active corp that does mining op's frequently. Less hassle, easily available and you have trust that can be built with corp members, which is the most valuable resource in the eve universe.
All true, but often ISK isn't the main reason to get in on a mining op -- especially if you're just doing it as a free-lancer. Lots of hisec ops are social events more than anything: mining is just a way for players to get together and talk in local about whatever. I generally donate any ore I mine in those ops to the organizer because organizing is really a hassle for all the reasons you mentioned. Those kinds of ops aren't really for the ISK; it's more to meet and greet your fellow miners.
And yeah, you're at risk from gankers and "bumpers", but that's always true in EVE. Fly a cheap ship in these ops and it's no big deal, really. I got ganked twice in the same op last year, but I was flying a Retriever with T1 fittings so...meh. The ganker gets to stroke the epeen to the killboard, and I get to meet up with some fellow miners from all over EVE for good talk. It's worth the cost.
Even in EVE, it's not always about the ISK/hr.
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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
230
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Posted - 2012.08.15 19:49:00 -
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Mining ops within one's own corp are often quite effective. Not only does everyone get a healthy isk/hour, it often brings more people online at the same time that might otherwise be casually. As such, I conduct our corporation meetings during mining ops, to discuss things of importance to the group that might not be related at all to mining.
Because everyone is in corp, the trust issue becomes a benefit. By risking their time for a mining op and finding themselves properly rewarded for it at the end, the level of trust between corp members increases.
That makes these mining ops vitally important, regardless of the isk/hour they might yield. In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
923
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:29:00 -
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Jasmin Go wrote:Hello,
I have recently returned from the game after a quite long absence. If I remember correctly, there used to be organized mining ops by someone that I could simply tuck along with a miner without being in their alliance or corp, and profits were split up evenly afterwards. Does my memory fail me here and I just imagined that, or is this still happening? And if so, where can I sign up? Most recent two:
Get paid 4 mill immediately without having to leave the belt. + Orca Support! Free Orca bonus - Otela
I did a forum search on "orca". |
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
166
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:44:00 -
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Styth spiting wrote:...
You're really just better off joining an active corp that does mining op's frequently. Less hassle, easily available and you have trust that can be built with corp members, which is the most valuable resource in the eve universe.
This IS old thinking - out-moded.
1. You use a Mack - you haul your own ore to station - screw loot history, and waiting for a pay out... out-moded. Your Mack is the solo-miner...if your in a ad-hoc mining op - meaning not in a corp but being in a fleet with people, for a boost.
2. You use the Channel (in my solution) to know people well enough... if you have done the due-diligence of building up files on the locals - you see people mining or in local in a ship or DSCAN [so-and-so's whatever] you make a note [that is what the note tab is for], you will learn the care-bears from the gankers after only a short while - you shold be aware and also careful with who you fleet with but not a paranoid idiot...or EVE is not for you...
Now people will say... your in a hulk with an Orca and haulers....but I am going to say - and from direct experience since the patch, you will make just as much with the Mack in fleet and it works better... your in fleet but not in a blob... you can mine whatever you like and no issues with shares or cheats... you haul your own... even with max boost your going to be in the belts alot more then in transition...
You want to use a Mack because you can tank it and still have a good return... by all means if your paranoid, bulkhead/DCU II your Mack with Shield rigs and a resists tank... or use a Skiff to start with until you over come you fears - but don't let that stand int the way of making contacts and fleeting up... because EVE rewards teamwork...
As for corps being safer? - um...corp members can gank you easier then non-corp...they CAN shoot fellow corpiies in HS w/o GCF... at least in ad-hoc you still have CONCORD and if your tank holds you are safe EVEN from fellow fleet members, but not fellow corp member - remember this.
Look at all the Macks in local...impressive... very impressive... I see you have fashioned a new exhumer... much like you father's... your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen... |
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