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Kassimila
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Posted - 2011.01.08 00:12:00 -
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So I was having fun running some random calculations in my head and I realized the following. The base explosion speed on a citidal cruise missile(CCM) is 29 m/s, that means you could outrun it in a decent car. If you placed a cheetah, and CCM next to each other, and the cheetah took off running. It could actually outrun the explosion.....which the radius of is 1.75km It would take a full 60 seconds for the explosion to finish....
So then I was thinking.....wouldn't it be more effective to just shoot the missile into them? Here's the math.... Assuming.. (Impacting the target, max skills. Both hybrid and projectile weapons travel at 250 km/s)
Citidal Cruise Missile (Mass 1500kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 30,480,468,750 joule Projectile Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule Hybrid Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule
Also Standard cruise missile fired from a Raven with max skills..... (Mass 1,250 kg ) kinetic energy (K) = 44,494,628,906.25 joule
So can we just disable the warheads and throw the missiles at people? :)
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.01.08 00:28:00 -
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Cars and Cheetah's don't go so fast in space.
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Goremageddon Box
Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla
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Posted - 2011.01.08 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kassimila So I was having fun running some random calculations in my head and I realized the following. The base explosion speed on a citidal cruise missile(CCM) is 29 m/s, that means you could outrun it in a decent car. If you placed a cheetah, and CCM next to each other, and the cheetah took off running. It could actually outrun the explosion.....which the radius of is 1.75km It would take a full 60 seconds for the explosion to finish....
So then I was thinking.....wouldn't it be more effective to just shoot the missile into them? Here's the math.... Assuming.. (Impacting the target, max skills. Both hybrid and projectile weapons travel at 250 km/s)
Citidal Cruise Missile (Mass 1500kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 30,480,468,750 joule Projectile Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule Hybrid Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule
Also Standard cruise missile fired from a Raven with max skills..... (Mass 1,250 kg ) kinetic energy (K) = 44,494,628,906.25 joule
So can we just disable the warheads and throw the missiles at people? :)
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2011.01.08 00:33:00 -
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How about when you sit at 0ms and starting firing Hybrids or Projectiles your ship responds with an equal and opposite force...
Oh wait Eve isn't real life.
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Tagera
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Posted - 2011.01.08 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kassimila So I was having fun running some random calculations in my head and I realized the following. The base explosion speed on a citidal cruise missile(CCM) is 29 m/s, that means you could outrun it in a decent car. If you placed a cheetah, and CCM next to each other, and the cheetah took off running. It could actually outrun the explosion.....which the radius of is 1.75km It would take a full 60 seconds for the explosion to finish....
So then I was thinking.....wouldn't it be more effective to just shoot the missile into them? Here's the math.... Assuming.. (Impacting the target, max skills. Both hybrid and projectile weapons travel at 250 km/s)
Citidal Cruise Missile (Mass 1500kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 30,480,468,750 joule Projectile Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule Hybrid Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule
Also Standard cruise missile fired from a Raven with max skills..... (Mass 1,250 kg ) kinetic energy (K) = 44,494,628,906.25 joule
So can we just disable the warheads and throw the missiles at people? :)
Some ships can outrun a cruise missile..most cannot. Interceptors are about the only ones capable of it...or a really fast ship. Ye olde Nano-Phoon could do it I think.
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2011.01.08 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Cars and Cheetah's don't go so fast in space.
Find me a way to get a Cheetah into a projectile turret and I accept your challenge!
Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
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Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.01.08 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Triple Entendre
Originally by: Lady Spank Cars and Cheetah's don't go so fast in space.
Find me a way to get a Cheetah into a projectile turret and I accept your challenge!
Put the Cheetah in the car and crush it into shape.
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.08 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dub Step
Originally by: Triple Entendre
Originally by: Lady Spank Cars and Cheetah's don't go so fast in space.
Find me a way to get a Cheetah into a projectile turret and I accept your challenge!
Put the Cheetah in the car and crush it into shape.
Oh, the infamous car sabot.
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Samuel Caldara
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Posted - 2011.01.08 13:04:00 -
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Speed wise his math is correct just grab a unit converter and it is very easy to check.
Considering how far technology has 'advanced' since today it just doesn't make sense. CCP some realism in our game please?
Thanks
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Keta Fraal
Nul and Booleans
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Posted - 2011.01.08 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kassimila So I was having fun running some random calculations in my head and I realized the following. The base explosion speed on a citidal cruise missile(CCM) is 29 m/s, that means you could outrun it in a decent car. If you placed a cheetah, and CCM next to each other, and the cheetah took off running. It could actually outrun the explosion.....which the radius of is 1.75km It would take a full 60 seconds for the explosion to finish....
So then I was thinking.....wouldn't it be more effective to just shoot the missile into them? Here's the math.... Assuming.. (Impacting the target, max skills. Both hybrid and projectile weapons travel at 250 km/s)
Citidal Cruise Missile (Mass 1500kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 30,480,468,750 joule Projectile Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule Hybrid Ammo (Mass 1kg) - kinetic energy (K) = 31,250,000,000 joule
Also Standard cruise missile fired from a Raven with max skills..... (Mass 1,250 kg ) kinetic energy (K) = 44,494,628,906.25 joule
So can we just disable the warheads and throw the missiles at people? :)
If you are having trouble with the suspension of disbelief and can't immerse yourself so you can justify why each race of ship is designed with the handicap of excluding all other racial weapons, then you should just fly minmatar for the lesser of four evils.
In the next expansion, rather than walking around in stations wearing top hats, monocles and women's panties, I propose that Invention be re-combobulated to improve ship specs and slot permissions.
Imagine a ship designed to perform well in a role defined from player experience rather than rigid game design mechanics that are set by some in game corporate 5-year plan on how best to supply an arsenal.
Ahh.. Nevermind. walking in stations with a top hat and monocle would suit me fine.
P.S. I wish I lived in Iceland.
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Sporked
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Posted - 2011.01.08 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Samuel Caldara CCP some realism in our game please?
Two words in that sentence don't go together. Can you guess which they are?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.08 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sporked
Originally by: Samuel Caldara CCP some realism in our game please?
Two words in that sentence don't go together. Can you guess which they are?
please?
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.08 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Sporked
Originally by: Samuel Caldara CCP some realism in our game please?
Two words in that sentence don't go together. Can you guess which they are?
please?
That's just one...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.08 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Iraherag
Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Sporked
Originally by: Samuel Caldara CCP some realism in our game please?
Two words in that sentence don't go together. Can you guess which they are?
please?
That's just one...
Pr ease?
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.08 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Iraherag
That's just one...
"please" and the "?".
Forum whiners never ask CCP for something, they DEMAND something. An exclamation point or even a period in place of the question mark would have been more correct.
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Illwill Bill
Noxious Intention
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Posted - 2011.01.08 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Cars and Cheetah's don't go so fast in space.
Lies! I'm shooting VW's with my 1400's!
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Sporked
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Posted - 2011.01.08 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Sporked
Originally by: Samuel Caldara CCP some realism in our game please?
Two words in that sentence don't go together. Can you guess which they are?
please?
If you had put "please" "?" I could have accepted that answer. So close!
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luckyhendrix
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Posted - 2011.01.08 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: luckyhendrix on 08/01/2011 18:15:47 Yeah OP is correct , but realy you can't apply real word physics to EvE. Russian tried to mount guns on space station in the 70's, didn't work too well considering you might need days of orbital manoeuvring in order to aim at a target taking in account that you have enough fuel in the first place and once you coud fire , it would mess up your obit.
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