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0oO0oOoOo0o
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Posted - 2011.01.14 22:40:00 -
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Oh lol.Sanshas. I'm so intimidated. You know what, my CNR eats Sanshas for breakfast. Small Sanshas, medium Sanshas, big Sanshas, I kill dozens of them in level 4 missions. My Estamel missile launchers will **** them, there won't be any Sanshas left for anyone else, you kno ..
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Manfred Rickenbocker
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.01.14 23:46:00 -
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I, too, enjoy lulling hamsters to sleep and poking them with foreign objects. ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times. |
Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.01.15 00:01:00 -
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Someone mentioned cake ? ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Don Dinero
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Posted - 2011.01.15 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: 0oO0oOoOo0o Oh lol.Sanshas. I'm so intimidated. You know what, my CNR eats Sanshas for breakfast. Small Sanshas, medium Sanshas, big Sanshas, I kill dozens of them in level 4 missions. My Estamel missile launchers will **** them, there won't be any Sanshas left for anyone else, you kno ..
Please let me know when you'll be "killing sanshas" so I can salvage your carebear wreck.
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David Carel
Caldari Random Selection. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.01.15 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: 0oO0oOoOo0o Oh lol.Sanshas. I'm so intimidated. You know what, my CNR eats Sanshas for breakfast. Small Sanshas, medium Sanshas, big Sanshas, I kill dozens of them in level 4 missions. My Estamel missile launchers will **** them, there won't be any Sanshas left for anyone else, you kno ..
You obviously never ran incursions. For Vanguard sites, 1000DPS tank was not enough. In a Tengu.
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Colon Gravy
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Posted - 2011.01.15 00:47:00 -
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Wow this is great spikey ships going pew pew ...ya ya enhancement great....but when is walking stations or dust showing up .....the stick and carrot thing is getting old. Ive been playing this game for close to 4 years and it takes forever to get anything done in game. Dont get me wrong I think eve is the best mmo ive ever played but I would like to see whats been talked about for years happen.
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Ron Fifer
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Posted - 2011.01.15 01:15:00 -
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I would like to get one thing straight, as far as hi-sec is concerned, will we be seeking sanshas in complexes and deep space or will they pop up in systems like motsu, jita, laah...
Thanks
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Ghost Hunter
True Slave Foundations
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Posted - 2011.01.15 02:13:00 -
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For the love of Sansha I hope the actor controlled spawn points won't melt our faces off anymore.
ah well, I'd do it anyway \o/ ______
True Slave Foundations Overseer A place of meeting |
Master Hamster
Testing on Humans
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Posted - 2011.01.15 03:38:00 -
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Whatever happens, DO NOT TOUCH THE HAMSTERS! Or else!
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.01.15 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Colon Gravy Wow this is great spikey ships going pew pew ...ya ya enhancement great....but when is walking stations or dust showing up .....the stick and carrot thing is getting old. Ive been playing this game for close to 4 years and it takes forever to get anything done in game. Dont get me wrong I think eve is the best mmo ive ever played but I would like to see whats been talked about for years happen.
Doesn't seem so that the stick and carrot thing is getting old.. Also, wait for FF11 on news to the other stuff you're so interested in and will be disappointed in nonetheless
@Soundwave, very nicely written Blog. Love the coffin-order part support Public Idea Tracker | 24hr PLEX |
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MouthSetting 42
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Posted - 2011.01.15 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Quote: weÆll be opening it in what we hope is a spectacular-but-oh-so-carefully-staged manner
Please carefully stage it in
Jita Uedama Motsu, Arnon Dodixie Hek Amamake Rancer Rens Amarr Kor-Azor Maut PF-346 Deltole Kusomonmon
K thx Bai
This is something that happens in my happiest dreams...
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Wraithbane
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Posted - 2011.01.15 06:47:00 -
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Thanks for the warning guys. Given that I'm still with SWA, it looks like I'd be just risking expensive hardware during these incursions. That being the case, I think I'll take a couple of months off and wait until this blows over.
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Cresalle
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Posted - 2011.01.15 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Wraithbane Thanks for the warning guys. Given that I'm still with SWA, it looks like I'd be just risking expensive hardware during these incursions. That being the case, I think I'll take a couple of months off and wait until this blows over.
It's not going to 'blow over'. This will be a permanent new system.
According to conversations with the staff during tests on Sisi an incursion starts in a single system (any system that is not w-space) then spreads like a virus until it covers the whole constellation. Observations of the system in action show that any system under an incursion is penalized with the following:
- A tax paid to Concord on all bounties
- Reduced dps output from capsuleer ships
- Reduced damage resistances on capsuleer ships
- Cyno-jamming
Capsuleers must conquer the incursion sites in a system in order to push back the steadily expanding incursion indicator (large colored progress bar under the system info). Once the bar hits zero the system is released. When the incursion is pressed back to a single system in the constellation and that system is at the point of being released the new mothership will spawn. When that ship is defeated the incursion ends. If the incursion is not completed for a long time (low occupancy area, no willing fleets, etc) then it will eventually disappear and cycle to a new location. The system penalties are in place to make it a huge PITA so that people who would not normally work together will find a reason to do so.
Rewards for participating in incursions will include Concord LP which can be spent in the new Concord LP store. What items will exist in that store remains a point of speculation, but possibly the bpc for the new mothership will be listed there in the case that it is not dropped as loot.
For anyone who has not participated in the testing, this is easily the most powerful and technologically advanced AI that has been seen in EVE. In the moderate and high level sites a single Sansha frigate could easily destroy a well tanked battleship in less than a minute. The amount of ehp the rats have is ridiculously high. They move and fight like sleepers but also make use of multiple forms of ewar. There is a much greater variety of rat type and each type specializes in a certain strategy of attack. The target-switching AI is far more advanced than that of sleepers, targetting priority is not random but is strategically based in order to select weak spots in the capsuleer fleet (such as logistics or support ships).
A lot of people are going to die a lot of times before people start to get an idea of the sites and what the requirements are to complete them. Some of the sites demand a well composed fleet of 40-50 competent pilots in order to complete them.
At any rate, I'll enjoy watching people die and generally get a kick out of this. I'll sneak into some of the crazy sites in a cloaky and then jack the loot from the last rat and swear up and down in local that it's a mothership bpc. Eventually once the dust has settled I may even participate in completing some sites just to see what's in the new LP store.
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Shamefuldirty
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Posted - 2011.01.15 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Shamefuldirty on 15/01/2011 08:18:42 sounds great, pitty as a new player I won't be able to take part in these huge battles. I will be able to of course, but i'll just die a lot......
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Emeric Jadgoth
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Posted - 2011.01.15 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cresalle According to conversations with the staff during tests on Sisi an incursion starts in a single system (any system that is not w-space) then spreads like a virus until it covers the whole constellation. Observations of the system in action show that any system under an incursion is penalized with the following:
- A tax paid to Concord on all bounties
- Reduced dps output from capsuleer ships
- Reduced damage resistances on capsuleer ships
- Cyno-jamming
Capsuleers must conquer the incursion sites in a system in order to push back the steadily expanding incursion indicator (large colored progress bar under the system info). Once the bar hits zero the system is released. When the incursion is pressed back to a single system in the constellation and that system is at the point of being released the new mothership will spawn. When that ship is defeated the incursion ends. If the incursion is not completed for a long time (low occupancy area, no willing fleets, etc) then it will eventually disappear and cycle to a new location. The system penalties are in place to make it a huge PITA so that people who would not normally work together will find a reason to do so.
If that is the case, then it's bull****. Forcing people to play along to a scripted storyline and punish those who don't care for it by reducing income, DPS and resists? And what is the timeout? A day, a week, a month?
This sounds like the stupid school teacher trying to get all the kids to play with everyone in the playground at recess. Never gonna work.
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Ron Fifer
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Posted - 2011.01.15 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cresalle
At any rate, I'll enjoy watching people die and generally get a kick out of this. I'll sneak into some of the crazy sites in a cloaky and then jack the loot from the last rat and swear up and down in local that it's a mothership bpc. Eventually once the dust has settled I may even participate in completing some sites just to see what's in the new LP store.
LOL!
Thanks for the feed bro. appreciated.
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2011.01.15 13:20:00 -
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The Sansha, they are coming!
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Fuel Technician
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Posted - 2011.01.15 14:16:00 -
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Scenario... I'm doing mordus lvl 4 and just agroed the whole of second room, tanks just holding and then an incursion kicks off..... question... does the reduction in resistances effect me?
i'm hoping the answer is no otherwise i'm gonna have to park up the pimped up mission ship and use something a bit cheaper just in case!
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Emeric Jadgoth
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Posted - 2011.01.15 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Fuel Technician Scenario... I'm doing mordus lvl 4 and just agroed the whole of second room, tanks just holding and then an incursion kicks off..... question... does the reduction in resistances effect me?
i'm hoping the answer is no otherwise i'm gonna have to park up the pimped up mission ship and use something a bit cheaper just in case!
Then dig the cheap ship out. The answer is yes, to encourage you to take part in fighting the invasion. BS that.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2011.01.15 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Fuel Technician Scenario... I'm doing mordus lvl 4 and just agroed the whole of second room, tanks just holding and then an incursion kicks off..... question... does the reduction in resistances effect me?
i'm hoping the answer is no otherwise i'm gonna have to park up the pimped up mission ship and use something a bit cheaper just in case!
I'm guessing the incursions would kick in at downtime. And it probably means you'll need to get a fleet together to not fail the mission, and then either move systems or clear the incursion.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.01.15 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: mkmin I'm guessing the incursions would kick in at downtime. And it probably means you'll need to get a fleet together to not fail the mission, and then either move systems or clear the incursion.
That would be my guess as well. Although an Incursion starting in Motsu at primetime would be...interessting.
It would only matter in the very first system of an incursion, though. All other systems have advanced warning time.
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Wraithbane
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Posted - 2011.01.15 20:52:00 -
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Oh well, then I guess I'll be moving on. I've always said that as long as I could run a few missions, mine a bit and collect battleships it was worth sticking around. Given their obvious attitude expressed in that video, its time to find another game.
Forcing ones players to conform to ones Vision(tm) of how the game should be played, is more like Blizzards Ghostcrawler, than the EVE I've played for more than 5 years now. But people and companies change, and not always for the better. I wish you guys all the best.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.01.16 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wraithbane Oh well, then I guess I'll be moving on. I've always said that as long as I could run a few missions, mine a bit and collect battleships it was worth sticking around. Given their obvious attitude expressed in that video, its time to find another game.
Oh noes , someone peed in your part of the sandbox.
Just relocate to a system some 5 jumps away and keep doing the same boring stuff you did for the last 5 years.
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Saul Caris
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Posted - 2011.01.16 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cresalle
According to conversations with the staff during tests on Sisi an incursion starts in a single system (any system that is not w-space) then spreads like a virus until it covers the whole constellation.
This bit needs dev confirmation. All the stuff I've read about Incursions previously indicated that an Incursion would be confined to a single system, from start to finish.
I think that if these things are to have any relevance at all, they absolutely should spread from one initial 'infected' system through the entire constellation - but this is the first time I've seen it mentioned. Can any friendly ccp confirm this?
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SwissChris1
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Posted - 2011.01.16 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: 0oO0oOoOo0o Oh lol.Sanshas. I'm so intimidated. You know what, my CNR eats Sanshas for breakfast. Small Sanshas, medium Sanshas, big Sanshas, I kill dozens of them in level 4 missions. My Estamel missile launchers will **** them, there won't be any Sanshas left for anyone else, you kno ..
looool I can't wait to feed off all the carebear wrecks! Have you even been on sisi to try it out? A maxed nighthawk with dual webs could barely kill a sansha frigate at a vangard site with max incursion effects on the system.
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Gazunda
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Posted - 2011.01.16 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cresalle
Originally by: Wraithbane Thanks for the warning guys. Given that I'm still with SWA, it looks like I'd be just risking expensive hardware during these incursions. That being the case, I think I'll take a couple of months off and wait until this blows over.
It's not going to 'blow over'. This will be a permanent new system.
According to conversations with the staff during tests on Sisi an incursion starts in a single system (any system that is not w-space) then spreads like a virus until it covers the whole constellation. Observations of the system in action show that any system under an incursion is penalized with the following:
- A tax paid to Concord on all bounties
- Reduced dps output from capsuleer ships
- Reduced damage resistances on capsuleer ships
- Cyno-jamming
Capsuleers must conquer the incursion sites in a system in order to push back the steadily expanding incursion indicator (large colored progress bar under the system info). Once the bar hits zero the system is released. When the incursion is pressed back to a single system in the constellation and that system is at the point of being released the new mothership will spawn. When that ship is defeated the incursion ends. If the incursion is not completed for a long time (low occupancy area, no willing fleets, etc) then it will eventually disappear and cycle to a new location. The system penalties are in place to make it a huge PITA so that people who would not normally work together will find a reason to do so.
Rewards for participating in incursions will include Concord LP which can be spent in the new Concord LP store. What items will exist in that store remains a point of speculation, but possibly the bpc for the new mothership will be listed there in the case that it is not dropped as loot.
For anyone who has not participated in the testing, this is easily the most powerful and technologically advanced AI that has been seen in EVE. In the moderate and high level sites a single Sansha frigate could easily destroy a well tanked battleship in less than a minute. The amount of ehp the rats have is ridiculously high. They move and fight like sleepers but also make use of multiple forms of ewar. There is a much greater variety of rat type and each type specializes in a certain strategy of attack. The target-switching AI is far more advanced than that of sleepers, targetting priority is not random but is strategically based in order to select weak spots in the capsuleer fleet (such as logistics or support ships).
A lot of people are going to die a lot of times before people start to get an idea of the sites and what the requirements are to complete them. Some of the sites demand a well composed fleet of 40-50 competent pilots in order to complete them.
At any rate, I'll enjoy watching people die and generally get a kick out of this. I'll sneak into some of the crazy sites in a cloaky and then jack the loot from the last rat and swear up and down in local that it's a mothership bpc. Eventually once the dust has settled I may even participate in completing some sites just to see what's in the new LP store.
Well it now seems a complete waste of my time completing all the skill training if it means nothing now with this incursion up grade trying too get lots of people too work together in eve is a waste of time, I solo lvl 4 missions all the time with my alt and was happy enough doing that but if this is the case from now on where-bye my sp training means nothing then I've wasted 2yrs playing this game and its about time I moved on from here !!.
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Daedalus II
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Posted - 2011.01.16 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gazunda Well it now seems a complete waste of my time completing all the skill training if it means nothing now with this incursion up grade trying too get lots of people too work together in eve is a waste of time, I solo lvl 4 missions all the time with my alt and was happy enough doing that but if this is the case from now on where-bye my sp training means nothing then I've wasted 2yrs playing this game and its about time I moved on from here !!.
I'm going to make a corp for incursions, just to solve this problem. I've put an ad up in the recruitment center but haven't had much luck yet. But if you're in the euro TZ and 25+ age you are welcome to join: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1446170
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Kronic Offender
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Posted - 2011.01.17 00:29:00 -
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Jump clones in different regions. When an incursion happens in your fav sys jump clone to another region, continue as before. That's if you don't wanna participate of course. I don't understand why some people are getting so worked up.
Looking forward to changing my look too!
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Lars Konrad
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Posted - 2011.01.17 00:41:00 -
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This uhh... kinda sounds like a giant nuisance to anyone not in a large, well-organized corp.
I spend a lot of time soloing level 4 missions in Motsu. From what I'm reading here, I'm not going to be able to do that anymore. I don't see this concept of forced teamwork playing out very well - even in a system like Motsu, where there are enough pilots and decent ships to form a fleet.
You can't force people to get along. I'll just log out until my bounties aren't taxed, my ship isn't nerfed and the system isn't filled with steroid zombies.
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Izaac Newton
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Posted - 2011.01.17 02:00:00 -
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"toodles" hehe have your children taken over the remote at home?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVNaWdvU6wE
/sigh
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