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Aureus
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Posted - 2011.01.14 16:45:00 -
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Ok lets say you got a 2nd account and want to use that character to help you with missioning.
What would be the best type of character for that?
It would have to be something not TOO complicated, because you'll be alt tabbing or whatever controlling two chars at once...
Would you just have maybe a dedicated tanker while your main can devote to max dps?
Or a support char with remote shield/armor reps?
OR what?
what sort of role would make most drastic effect on shorter mission times
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Corcyrus Endymion
Caldari Excessum Corporation Excessum Gaming
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Posted - 2011.01.14 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Aureus Ok lets say you got a 2nd account and want to use that character to help you with missioning.
What would be the best type of character for that?
It would have to be something not TOO complicated, because you'll be alt tabbing or whatever controlling two chars at once...
Would you just have maybe a dedicated tanker while your main can devote to max dps?
Or a support char with remote shield/armor reps?
OR what?
what sort of role would make most drastic effect on shorter mission times
Running two missions at once, using two screens. Doubles your isk if you can do it (not that hard).
Otherwise, just maximizing gank will do fine.
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Vildrin
Entwi De Maila
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Posted - 2011.01.14 17:03:00 -
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Uses for a second account for missions are in no particular order
Salvage Alt (noctis is all the reason you need for a second account) Main account Focus fire(missiles or guns) Second account Passive fire (Drones set to autoattack) Dominix and possible into a rattlesnake long term
The later should be used carefully ninja's and such can expoit this they warp and take from a wreck and drones can argo them and then they can fire on you.
Spliting rewards with the second account lets you be more picky on the missions you can run as you can have access to two different missions lets you decline more missions if your anti-faction, anti-courier.
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D'mitri Ahriman
Solenus Directive Rieos Coalition
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Posted - 2011.01.17 16:08:00 -
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my vote would be for remote reps. or, maybe have some drones from each ship repping each other. you would have almost double dps..... imagine flying two apocs? awesomeness.
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Fat Willy
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Posted - 2011.01.17 16:58:00 -
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Second attack ship is really useful for taking out those pesky EW ships, for example the Pithum Nullifiers that ECM your main ship. If your main jumps in first, tanks the rats, then second can jump in and shoot at leisure. Its also useful for carrying extra loot/salvage, if you salvage on the go.
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xmayzex
Gallente Best Served Cold.
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Posted - 2011.01.20 22:30:00 -
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When i had my alt account activated, i ran a Dominix on that toon and also on my main.
I setup the alt with remote reps and drones.
Doing Missions went a lot faster. I was still working on getting my tanking skills trained so the extra reps helped greatly .. also setting my alts drones to assist my main .. then i would just shoot whatever my drones are attacking and my alts drones would follow and attack too.
Dunno if any of that helps, or how efficient it really is .. but it helped me run missions faster. only drawback is that my alt wasnt really trained for self repping, so i would have to warp out on some missions. for example .. ones with group triggers.
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Gianath
Gallente Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
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Posted - 2011.01.20 23:06:00 -
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My main is a Dominix very highly skilled at drones, slowly easing his way into a Rattlesnake.
My alt started 2 months later and has filled a variety of support roles, all of which worked out pretty well. Initially I supported the Dominix with a stealth bomber, as thermal torps would tear through heavy pirate ships much faster than drones. Also an ideal scanner/scout. For some missions, I would fly an Exequor with remote reps and salvagers, as they are great for providing support while carrying tons of salvage/loot as I fight, and are very mobile. Throw on 5 T2 drones and it provides good anti-frigate support for the Dominix.
Eventually I worked my alt up into a second Dominix with my alt, and have been using it to either compliment my main Dominix on the harder level 4 missions, or running two sets of missions separately to double my income.
In any case, it all depends on how much time/energy/effort you can afford to devote to 2 screens at once, and whether you have the machine power and display size to manage them comfortably. Don't alt-tab, use windowed mode and try to put your screens side by side or slightly overlapping so you can see the targets on both. I'll admit I've lost or nearly lost more than my own fair share of ships because I wasn't paying attention while my stealth bomber or logistics got targeted by a loose spawn and was down to structure. Try to keep them in cheap ships and mods if you are prone to lose track of them. If you make your main the specialist that focuses on being very strong at something, and your alt a jack of all trades that can fill any role "well enough to get the job done" it will make you a lot more flexible.
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Zuper Zpy
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gianath .In any case, it all depends on how much time/energy/effort you can afford to devote to 2 screens at once, and whether you have the machine power and display size to manage them comfortably. Don't alt-tab, use windowed mode and try to put your screens side by side or slightly overlapping so you can see the targets on both. I'll admit I've lost or nearly lost more than my own fair share of ships because I wasn't paying attention while my stealth bomber or logistics got targeted by a loose spawn and was down to structure. Try to keep them in cheap ships and mods if you are prone to lose track of them. If you make your main the specialist that focuses on being very strong at something, and your alt a jack of all trades that can fill any role "well enough to get the job done" it will make you a lot more flexible.
I use 3 drakes to run level 4's and I alt tab. It works for me. Using 2 screens would be a nightmare on the neck muscles, the thought of using 4 is prohibitive. If you are in fleet, as you would be, you can and should add each member to watch list, that way you can see if one of your toons is taking more damage than you feel comfortable with. The last spawn on Blockade level 4 drops a Pope and 3 cardinals along with 4 of those little ships that scram you. 15 nobgoblins make short work of those which leaves you sitting nicely to finish the mission and bookmark it.
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Valerien
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:57:00 -
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good stuff - i like the info here
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Killer Claw
Astral Beings
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Posted - 2011.01.21 21:03:00 -
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Yea, I would say a salvage alt, mostly because its a pain in the ass to switch between my Noctis and raven :P
Plus, it makes it hard as hell to be ninja salvages because you can just do a pocket right after clearing it.
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Nemesis Factor
Caldari Telanus' Reach
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Posted - 2011.01.21 23:27:00 -
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Depends on your play style. I like to do other **** online while I mission, so I do so in a Domi. My alt is in a salvage Myrmidon which chases my Domi's drones while salvaging. 3x salvager/tractor with rigs can almost keep up with my kill rate. The reason I chose a myrm is for the extra DPS from medium drones, but I'm planning on upgrading to a Ishtar for heavy drones and doubling my damage (at the expense of cargo hold). ==================== ~/~ Sultan of Buruni |
Zen Shenron
Gallente Capsul Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.22 00:33:00 -
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I like to have my second account in a T3 in a safe spot set up as a command ship with fleet boosting mods based on what my main is flying, this could be armored warfare mods or siege warfare mods to boost the tank of my main so he can fit for more damage, tho this is a bit skill intensive.
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Zuper Zpy
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Posted - 2011.01.22 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Zuper Zpy on 22/01/2011 02:25:44
Originally by: Zen Shenron I like to have my second account in a T3 in a safe spot set up as a command ship with fleet boosting mods based on what my main is flying, this could be armored warfare mods or siege warfare mods to boost the tank of my main so he can fit for more damage, tho this is a bit skill intensive.
For this I would presume that you are in a fleet with several members. If you were just playing 2 accounts the bonus given would really not be worth wasting a potential killing ship to be just sitting there doing nothing. I maxed out the warfare skills and fitted a drake with a command processor and 2 links but with that supporting 2 other drakes the missions took longer than just ploughing through with 3, T2 fitted drakes. The bonuses you get are a bit lame anyway compared to what you get with mining links. And to answer the original question of the poster. It is best to have 2 ships fitted exactly the same when running missions. The main reason being that when you alt tab you dont have to think too hard about what you are doing so less chance of error. I run 3 drakes with the same fit and use a noctis to follow behind. I make the noctis fleet commander so that I can warp squad to location and cancel the noctis' warp. When the noctis has run out of bookmarks or caught up with the squad I log it for about 1 hour 50 and relog to collect all the bookmarks from the corp hangar. The thought of running just one account frightens me. I would quit out of sheer boredom.
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Carniflex
StarHunt R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:43:00 -
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Best use of the second account in missions is doing additional damage. How exactly you want to do this is ofc secondary. There is many options, starting from not that bright ones (like FoF missiles) but very low maintenance to the pretty reasonable solutions, but taking a bit more consentration (like regular battleship and alt tabbing a lot). For 'maintenance free' I have heard that sentry dominix, with 5 small remote reppers on the sentry drones is actually pretty easay, if you put drones on 'assist' on your main - although I have not tried that one myself as I dont have T2 sentry drone skills and prefer to use alt tabbing (or usually just multiple monitors) myself.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:58:00 -
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I like to fly 2 dps ships in one mission. have 2 clients in windowed mode, having 2 screens is nice but pretty manageable in one mission.
2 ships running 2 missions is nice, I just find it easier to concentrate on one mission.
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Daveion Steel
Gallente 6thsense Corp Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.22 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zen Shenron I like to have my second account in a T3 in a safe spot set up as a command ship with fleet boosting mods based on what my main is flying, this could be armored warfare mods or siege warfare mods to boost the tank of my main so he can fit for more damage, tho this is a bit skill intensive.
And this is exactly what I do now, I used to duel box two Domi's, both had a single RR and a LAR with a flight of repper drones they was invincible, two sets of sentries with one set orders to aid my main.
But since I cross trained into a Macherial I could see no point in alt tabbing so the fleet booster is less strain.
:) Sig.
What's your honest opinion? The one thing I can never be wrong about. most everything actually :P |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.01.24 01:41:00 -
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Having the second character flying in the same mission helps immensely, until the point that one character is flying an officer-fitted loot piħata. Remote reps plus fleet boosts make two characters safer for low attention mission running. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Ethan Bejorn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2011.01.24 02:24:00 -
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One account, main tank in a Dominix with 2 x LAR II setup with enough cap to perma run. Heavy & Sentry drones, salvagers, tractors, and a civilian gatling gun. Other account in a Mach or Nightmare setup without any tank at all, full dps setup. Can put a small tank that won't ever get used if you are nervous type. Use the domi to aggro everything in the mission stage, drop drones and engage, and approach next gate, warp in mach, open fire on whatever and apprach gate.
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Feydlynn
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Posted - 2011.01.24 12:13:00 -
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I would use a second account to provide gang bonus's, logistics if your gank fitted, or salvaging whilst your running the mission, but it really depends what your using, if your a badass missioner and you take out a cnr with a gist a x-l and 60km torps then you don't need damage or tank support, just another char to clean up your mess, the gang bonus's are hand though, gang link modules don't take that long to train for and are very handy
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