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Unit XS365BT
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:28:00 -
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As of 23:10 Unit XS365BT was removed from SYNE channel by SYNE moderator Julianus Soter. Events prior to this included Pilot Soter attempting to end Capsuleer codebreaking attempts during incursion. Unit is therefore setting pilot Soter to Low standing and is forced to assume Pilot Soter has Nation loyalties. Requests for proof otherwise have been directly refused by pilot Soter.
We Return.
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Niraia
Gallente Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:50:00 -
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Unit would have been treated with more respect in Nation. We could've told you all about the loyalties of Julianus Soter months ago, if you'd have listened. This is unsurprising, and quite hilarious! -
eohpoker.com sanshasnation.net
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Unit QR108SB
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:54:00 -
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This newly acquired datum is inconsistent with the previously-acquired dataset regarding Mr. Soter. From the perspective of statistical analysis, this unit anticipates that the observed phenomenon was an anomalous data point. Futher observation and collection of data in regard to conduct of Mr. Soter is required to make that determination.
We Return. We Observe. We Shall Act.
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Unit XS365BT
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:55:00 -
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Respect is not a requirement pilot Niraia. Unit would not have joined nation even if it was. Kuvakei's dream is Untenable.
We Return.
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Julianus Soter
Gallente Moira.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:06:00 -
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She has cultist buddies!
Sorry folks. No time for insane rambling in a combat intelligence channel. Have fun elsewhere.
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Ber Kan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Julianus Soter She has cultist buddies!
Sorry folks. No time for insane rambling in a combat intelligence channel. Have fun elsewhere.
No, your Ego is too great for your own mind, that you cant handle the fact that if someone finds something out before you, or BRING out A NEW FINDING, WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL OR NOTION...you rationally deny it as plausable, or that its stupid, or that its just un-neccessary.
You have done this to multiple people, and because of this, you made SEVERAL PEOPLE that WERE anti-nation, into NATION loyalists.
Your lack of commanding is still under investigation from the Caldari side. And the fact that you do this to an ally that is MORE than willing to help and find ways to kill an enemy that we are all commanly agianst.
Slowly and slowly, your going into a deeper hole.
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Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Milo Caman on 19/01/2011 00:39:03
Originally by: Unit XS365BT White Noise
Originally by: Ber Kan Drivel
All this whining is irrelevant, because Soter owns and runs the channel, Good day sir. ---
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Ikarus Gaul
Gallente Eiffel Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Milo Caman All this whining is irrelevant, because Soter owns and runs the channel, Good day sir.
I was not able to be present during the aforementioned incident. What is significant is whether the alleqations of the following have any basis:
- That Unit XS365BT was interfering in any significant way of an ongoing operation with too much chatter,
- That Unit XS365BT was trying to offer constructive information and speculation, but was too-eagerly dismissed by Mr. Soter.
So, beyond the operation of the SynePublic channel, Milo, I am concerned that some pilots may not be respectful of the channel while an operation is underway, that some pilots including Mr. Soter *may* be too quick to dismiss possible theories from the rest of the capsuleer communities, and how such incidents threaten capsuleer unity in the face of the threat from Nation.
It is a matter that has implications beyond the operation of the channel itself. I hope that cool heads will prevail and that differences can be mended.
á How many humans will CONCORD allow Master Kuvakei and his True Slaves to abduct? How many is too many? Too many have already been lost! 40M citizens on countless planets! |
Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: Milo Caman on 19/01/2011 00:54:08
Originally by: Ikarus Gaul
It is a matter that has implications beyond the operation of the channel itself. I hope that cool heads will prevail and that differences can be mended.
I maintain that people should be able to kick complete idiots from their channels without having to justify themselves. ---
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Ikarus Gaul
Gallente Eiffel Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Milo Caman
I maintain that people should be able to kick complete idiots from their channels without having to justify themselves.
Oh, I'd have to agree with you. I'm just surprised, as I have not seen XS365BT act like an idiot before. Others, perhaps, but not her...
á How many humans will CONCORD allow Master Kuvakei and his True Slaves to abduct? How many is too many? Too many have already been lost! 40M citizens on countless planets! |
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Alexis Du'Volle
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ikarus Gaul
Oh, I'd have to agree with you. I'm just surprised, as I have not seen XS365BT act like an idiot before. Others, perhaps, but not her...
You should revise your definition of Idiot.
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Unit XS365BT
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Unit XS365BT on 19/01/2011 01:21:35
Originally by: Ikarus Gaul
- That Unit XS365BT was interfering in any significant way of an ongoing operation with too much chatter,
- That Unit XS365BT was trying to offer constructive information and speculation, but was too-eagerly dismissed by Mr. Soter.
Unit's comment that sparked this event was made approximately 10 minutes after the event in Seyllin. no 'actions' were currently underway by forces within SYNE.
At the time, and in the comment in question Unit was not attempting to offer advice, merely clarifying our personal views.
Nevertheless. the situation has, for the most part, been resolved. Pilot Soter's personal views on Unit's existence notwithstanding, of course.
Pilots Caman & Du'Volle, please refrain from inferred derogatory statements.
Faith is not a 'buddy' pilot Soter, she is our sister.
Standings reset. Currently we will defer to Unit QR108SB, Awaiting Consensus.
We Return
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Doctor Carbonatite
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:25:00 -
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Pilot Soter's arrogance is well-documented. He's every bit the megalomaniac Master Kuvakei is reputed to be, with none of the actual value to humanity. It was refreshing to see him universally ignored at the Usrah'Khan protest of CONCORD.
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Julianus Soter
Gallente Moira.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:33:00 -
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There was a protest? I was picking up a piece of leftover assets.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:56:00 -
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You know you've messed up when the bio-bots, the Nation loyalists, and the empire capsuleers all say you've got an ego the size of a Fenrir.
Well done Mr. Soter, you have successfully ****ed off the enigmatic Unit Commune (which could very well have been your greatest ally). But of course you'll just wave your hand and say "Oh, that Sansha fleet? I could destroy it in my Velator."
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Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Julianus Soter There was a protest? I was picking up a piece of leftover assets.
If you're that loud and obnoxious while just doing random hauling, I shudder to imagine you actually attending such an event.
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Rinai Vero
Gallente Moira.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:30:00 -
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This isn't the first time that combat operations during Sansha incursions have suffered because of rampant speculation and self defeating analysis of questionable intelligence. Those of us devoted to countering the Nation's attacks should be focused on mounting coordinated military efforts as our primary objective.
With all the chatter in SYNE it was impossible for many pilots, myself included, to link up with the main fleet. Any actual valuable intel about the status of enemy fleet assets was drowned out by endless repetition of the same "1 / 2 = .5 / 2 = .25! Try that!" drivel.
That kind of thing gets pretty annoying pretty quickly.
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Victor Trump
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rinai Vero This isn't the first time that combat operations during Sansha incursions have suffered because of rampant speculation and self defeating analysis of questionable intelligence. Those of us devoted to countering the Nation's attacks should be focused on mounting coordinated military efforts as our primary objective.
With all the chatter in SYNE it was impossible for many pilots, myself included, to link up with the main fleet. Any actual valuable intel about the status of enemy fleet assets was drowned out by endless repetition of the same "1 / 2 = .5 / 2 = .25! Try that!" drivel.
That kind of thing gets pretty annoying pretty quickly.
It is that Drivel you so like to call it that at times is the reason we even call fleets toegther.. Just because you do not understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to someone else and because it make sense to them you actually get to go pew pew.
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Syfa
Caldari Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Unit XS365BT As of 23:10 Unit XS365BT was removed from SYNE channel by SYNE moderator Julianus Soter. Events prior to this included Pilot Soter attempting to end Capsuleer codebreaking attempts during incursion. Unit is therefore setting pilot Soter to Low standing and is forced to assume Pilot Soter has Nation loyalties. Requests for proof otherwise have been directly refused by pilot Soter.
We Return.
From what I understand... You were blacklisted from the intelligence channel, due to not knowing when to stop spouting inane babble and shut up. Maybe if 'unit' acted more intelligently, and similarly to the capsuleers that 'unit' deals with, maybe 'unit' would be better liked.
Knowing when to shut ones mouth is as valuable as knowing when to open it, I hope 'unit' learned its lesson today.
Originally by: Ber Kan
More unimportant babble
Why if it isn't Mr. Ber Kan, the master of 'cryptic' and 'mysterios' - read: Incoherent nonsense himself. It seems like all the idiots skip down the road of life holding hands with each other these days. It's not my place to answer for him, but I believe Mr. Soter prefers to have his allies maintain a tangible grip on reality, have a scrap of common sense, and the ability to recognize when they're doing something incredibly daft.
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Nai Arto
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Nai Arto on 19/01/2011 07:16:11 Edited by: Nai Arto on 19/01/2011 07:11:07 -deleted
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Rinai Vero
Gallente Moira.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Trump
It is that Drivel you so like to call it that at times is the reason we even call fleets toegther.. Just because you do not understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to someone else and because it make sense to them you actually get to go pew pew.
It becomes drivel when its being repeated dozens of times after having already failed. I saw basically that exact quote probably fifty times in as many minutes. I'd be slightly more impressed with the codebreaking efforts I witnessed in SYNE if they'd had the slightest bit of coordination.
That said, I know some pilots were working dilligently on their own to crack any possible Sansha codes. Hopefully next time they will be more successful, and I wish them luck.
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Nola Doyle
NeuroGEN
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:28:00 -
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I can confirm, from personal observation, that Julianus Soter is not an agent of Sansha's Nation. However, to suggest his goals are aligned for anything other than himself might be stretching the boundaries of reality. Dr. Nola J. Doyle Co-CEO, NeuroGEN |
StalinGrad6
Gallente BLACK LIGHTNING MINING CREW Vanguard.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:11:00 -
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Why am i NOT surprised?
WHY?
Soter isnt Nation.
He just has too big an ego. *****************************
Scientist, Stretegist, Engineer, Miner, Drone Whisperer, The Ether Hath Come. |
Unit XS365BT
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Syfa
From what I understand... You were blacklisted from the intelligence channel, due to not knowing when to stop spouting inane babble and shut up.
Perhaps pilot Syfa should look again at the evidence, request information from those present at the time, and come to a new understanding.
During the events in Seyllin yesterday pilot Taron of the republic navy was requesting input from the assembled pilots as to the code that would fit the cypher posted to IGS prior to this incursion.
Any attempts to decipher this code were made by request.
Pilot Soter requested that pilots refrain from attempting to crack this code after termination of nation activities within Seyllin.
Unit was removed from the channel not for 'spouting inane babble' but for querying why pilot soter would request termination of this particular anti-nation activity.
while we may, as a combined force, not yet understand nation or it's activities, continued analysis and speculation can only aid this understanding, which would grant us additional tactical options for use against nation agression.
whether or not pilot Soter agrees with this conclusion is not our concern.
We did indeed learn a valuable lesson, it would seem that the majority of capsuleers within SYNE agree that continued analysis and examination of nation, it's assets and it's actions are required to allow final victory over this seemingly renewed force.
Pilot Vero.
At no point did Unit offer numerical solutions to the cipher released by pilot Taron.
Considering the subject matter, with reference to the Macaper prophecies, Unit offered one solution, that was ignored, or missed, by pilot Taron.
The solution in question was: Unity
A commonly used nation phrase and a possible answer to the cipher in question.
Perhaps we should request that pilots ensure that their statements are factual prior to making accusations or assupmtions concerning Unit activity.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 19/01/2011 16:42:50
Originally by: Julianus Soter There was a protest? I was picking up a piece of leftover assets.
So the fact that you were salvaging debris is an operationally critical moment in the battle? Why doesn't this suprise me. Soter...grow up.
Yuni...your always welcome at the 21st's facilities.
[21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C. |
Syfa
Caldari Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Unit XS365BT Perhaps pilot Syfa should look again at the evidence, request information from those present at the time, and come to a new understanding.
'Unit' is making the assumption that I wasn't in fact having a conversation with Mr. Soter when you were removed from the channel, and that I did not get to hear the justification for it as it happened. Mr. Soter had requested that pilots outside of the current operation that he was familiar with try to the crack the riddle too.
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Unit XS365BT
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Posted - 2011.01.20 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Syfa 'Unit' is making the assumption that I wasn't in fact having a conversation with Mr. Soter when you were removed from the channel, and that I did not get to hear the justification for it as it happened. Mr. Soter had requested that pilots outside of the current operation that he was familiar with try to the crack the riddle too.
THEORY: does pilot Syfa not realise that his intel must therefore be biased?
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Syfa
Caldari Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.20 00:22:00 -
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Theory: 'unit' has a serious case of hurt feelings...
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Unit XS365BT
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Posted - 2011.01.20 01:08:00 -
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Your theory is unsound at best. Our ban from SYNE public communications channel did not last long. However, your inability to understand how intel gathered from the one who performed the action of banning us could be biased is... unnerving to say the least. Further discussion on this topic is unlikely, as there seems no purpose to it. We do however wish you would stop placing half of our designation within inverted commas, if you do not wish to use that term of address, you may call us Yuni.
We Return.
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Ber Kan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.20 01:12:00 -
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theory: Its been settled...**** off and just drop the situation and work with the current sansha intel...
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