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The Gr4veDigger
Minmatar Rogue Clones
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Posted - 2011.01.20 11:22:00 -
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Right so I'm trying to make robotics on my plasma planet, which i could easily do before this latest patch. The problem im haviing is that even with the lv4 commandcenter i'm running out of power grid from just placing 4 extractor units, therefore no more room for drills if i have any sort of processing plant (4 basic 3 advanced) setup.
Robots need Crystals, Reactive Metals, Precious Metals and Toxic Metals, and we needed only 3000 each half an hour for each processor (which was easily gotten on my current lowsec planet).
This setup was fine before this patch. Is this a known problem, am i somehow doing something wrong?
I tried to search through the forums for anyone with the same problem but i couldn't find anything that wasn't an obvious troll.
Any help would be appreciated,
-Digger
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Barry Ze'Choppa
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Posted - 2011.01.20 11:29:00 -
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The way PI is currently set up, you can no longer produce P3 on a single planet. The new extractor setup is new to most of us (except those on the test server), and there's currently a lot of calculating, complaining and general tomfoolery with everyone trying to figure out what the hell's going on. From what I've read in other posts there's also a lot of dissonance about the amount and variance of resources being extracted at the moment. Extraction is quite possibly buggy. In short, you need to rework your old PI ideas if you want to continue with it, or wait until/if CCP wants to change it. Good luck to ye. |
Twilight Runner
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Posted - 2011.01.20 11:30:00 -
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Sorry not that Ive seen,
CCp should remove ECU requirements for cpu and power and each heads(Pins) should be the same as the old extractor units,
But that would be too easy.....
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Argonaught
Minmatar Cabbage Tea
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Argonaught on 20/01/2011 12:13:42 From what I know, even with elite CC's it's not possible to land 4 ecu's. The only way to do P3 and up on one planet is to have whatever ecu's you can use mine each material needed in stages by switching what the ECU is extracting after each program completes.
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Zacharyne Kimbyl
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:23:00 -
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Cycle switching - the wave of the future (right after space tsunamis).
This can work if you set up 2 ECUs, mining half the resources for the P3 in one program, the other half after that's done. You're only going to get producing P3 after they're both done though, so it'll most likely be a chunky process, you'll also have to worry about storage space. Still, less transporting I suppose.
P.S. Love the portrait, Grave.
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Aspectt
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:40:00 -
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I used to run a Robotics operation solely on a Plasma planet. But, I was only getting 3 Robotics every 2 hours.
I don't do it that way anymore. I found a Barren planet in the same system and setup a Mechanical Parts operation. I converted my Plasma planet to Consumer Electronics + end stage Robotics. When I go to pickup my Robotics I pop over to the Barren planet pickup the Mechanical Parts and drop it on the Plasma Planet. Just give your Barren planet a week to build up a nice supply.
I doubled my Robotics output. And that was before the new PI.
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Croix Kun
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:41:00 -
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Why would u WANT 4 ECU's ?? Each ECU has ability to have 10 heads
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Barry Ze'Choppa
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Barry Ze''Choppa on 20/01/2011 12:57:51 Edited by: Barry Ze''Choppa on 20/01/2011 12:57:30 I don't think anyone wants 4 ECUs, but you'd have to have 4 under the current system in order to extract 4 resources types at once. Made sense in the old system if you were P2-P3ing on a single planet.
Edit: With the new system people are encouraged to do what Aspectt is talking about. But this means more engaging PI maintence and more transport times, which can be hazardous to your health outside of Empire. Best as to why is CCP felt there was too much supply.
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Baron Sonthirr
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:03:00 -
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Well i have the same problem as grave does, with 1 planet not longer being able to produce P3. so as someone mentioned above i have to do it in cycles one run i make alle the stuff for consumer electronics and next i do all the mechanical parts. its a pain in the bum but at least i can still make the robotics without to much hauling.
as someone mentionened i might have to go for more storage just to be able to hold all the stuff. if i was CCP i would have made it so you could have 2 programs running from each ECU, or maybe have them demand less power and CPU, but it might be because of supply and demand.
i do hope they do something about it
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Shakon
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:21:00 -
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Its to encourage people to get another account for a Macro/Bot hauler.
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Mirac Factar
Gallente Hypergolic
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Posted - 2011.01.20 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Barry Ze'Choppa Edited by: Barry Ze''Choppa on 20/01/2011 12:57:51 Edited by: Barry Ze''Choppa on 20/01/2011 12:57:30 I don't think anyone wants 4 ECUs, but you'd have to have 4 under the current system in order to extract 4 resources types at once. Made sense in the old system if you were P2-P3ing on a single planet.
Edit: With the new system people are encouraged to do what Aspectt is talking about. But this means more engaging PI maintence and more transport times, which can be hazardous to your health outside of Empire. Best as to why is CCP felt there was too much supply.
It's not, under the new system you could extract in 24hrs, 48hrs worth of material for 2 resources then 24hours later switch to the other two. Net effect is every 48hours you have 48hours worth of all 4 P0 materials.
This is what I do.
You can do the same thing producing P2 materials using one extractor too.
No extra transport times, and still less clicking than before. This just in, the energizer bunny has been arrested and charged with battery. |
DarthCaboose
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Posted - 2011.01.21 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Croix Kun Why would u WANT 4 ECU's ?? Each ECU has ability to have 10 heads
Each ECU can only extract one type of resource at a time. If you want to extract multiple types in one go, you'll need to get many ECUs.
Now if CCP could make it so a single ECU can have heads that extract different type of units, it might be more strategically interesting (and less drag-and-click-intensive) to set up multi-tiered production.
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The Gr4veDigger
Minmatar Rogue Clones
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zacharyne Kimbyl
P.S. Love the portrait, Grave.
Why thankyou xD
I think i've worked out, as i dont have much time sometimes to constantly swap drills, is that as i have 3 characters i can do 4/4 PI on, i'll remove all my processors, and focus on pure retrieval. And leave 1 (or 2 if need be) planets to process everything. And deliver what i need and remove/sell any excess for my p3 / p4 processors.
Though i'll keep the drill swapping in mind. Thankyou all for your responses that involve more than 3 IQ ^^,
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 21/01/2011 18:24:24
Single ECU example:
* Phase 1: extract material 1, build P1 #1, build P2 #1, build P3 * Phase 2: extract material 2, build P1 #2, build P2 #2, build P3 * Phase 3: extract material 3, build P1 #3, build P2 #1, build P3 * Phase 4: extract material 4, build P1 #4, build P2 #2, build P3
Yes there is a start-up delay, but once you get going you can remain in full production of P3 if your extraction rates support it.
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Tatiana Starr
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Posted - 2011.01.22 15:15:00 -
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Same problem here, looks like I've either got to haul crap around or give up. Was hoping the new PI would be an improvement...
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