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Gallians
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:16:00 -
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I was looking forward to incursions, really. And looking at them, the concept is great.
Then you play them and notice that those friendly fleets formed in the constellation channel randomly blow up due to your messed up RR concords.
Now I see this mentioned everywhere but are you guys on crack? did that not strike you as something to fix before releasing the team play expansion/content?
Not only that but the skills required as incredibly high and the rewards incredibly mediocre. For all the anticipation and goodwill going towards this expansion its proving to be garbage.
Get your act together. Seriously. You delayed the thing, couldn't you have delayed it till you fixed your damn RR system? Do you play your own game?
And by the way, I think you are forgetting just how annoying these sigs are. |
Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Aessoroz on 26/01/2011 18:18:35
Originally by: Gallians I was looking forward to incursions, really. And looking at them, the concept is great.
Then you play them and notice that those friendly fleets formed in the constellation channel randomly blow up due to your messed up RR concords.
Now I see this mentioned everywhere but are you guys on crack? did that not strike you as something to fix before releasing the team play expansion/content?
Not only that but the skills required as incredibly high and the rewards incredibly mediocre. For all the anticipation and goodwill going towards this expansion its proving to be garbage.
Get your act together. Seriously. You delayed the thing, couldn't you have delayed it till you fixed your damn RR system? Do you play your own game?
Yes they play their own game, players also played incursion for months before it came out on SiSi. But I suppose the players on sisi weren't so ELITE PVEeR as everyone Tranq are.
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Kahega Amielden
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:18:00 -
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As I recall, there was a video dev blog where the profitability of incursions was discussed. The advice of the dev was to run incursions if you have friends and..if you don't have friends, get some friends and then run incursions.
EVE does not nor has it ever lended itself to "Pick up groups"
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 26/01/2011 18:31:50 You seem to think that this is a bug, not a feature. It isn't. After hearing about this, I am now seriously considering having my alt do highsec incursions for the sole purpose of CONCORDing entire carebear fleets and harvesting their tears.
And just imagine, 15 minutes ago I thought that incursions were a complete waste of time and the most useless "expansion" ever. -----------
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ReclyeMe
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:31:00 -
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I find it kind of funny it was the first thing I though of when people were talking about RR in High sec.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:32:00 -
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I'll just leave this here...
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: HeIIfire11 I will have no part in this whole thing until the game gets fixed.I just lost a kronos because I gave someone rr and he shot me.
Working as intended; nothing to be fixed.
Says you..now watch them fix it because they will either have to or the whole thing will be a flop.At least in high sec.No one is going to join a random fleet after getting popped because of some stupid guy shooting stuff hes shouldnt be.Nor will they go in there with anything more than cheap little ships which will be no fun I can tell you now.You'll be gone in less than a min.Wanna bet?
In any case it will be nice to see your foot in your mouth.
0/10 btw because I know you can do better.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1446656&page=3
Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.
Originally by: CCP Soundwave We are looking into this issue right now.
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Major MouseTrap
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:34:00 -
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And dont forget the the war mechanic i can use against you .....am at war with my alt you don't know about it.... am in your fleet for a awhile just waiting for the right moment and bam my main comes in with his fleet you are all red to my corp because you were RR my alt am at war with . My fleet can shoot at your fleet not to worry about concord some will be like wtf...going on..... by then your all popped grap loot and we out of there ................
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Grudabaker
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aessoroz
Yes they play their own game, players also played incursion for months before it came out on SiSi. But I suppose the players on sisi weren't so ELITE PVEeR as everyone Tranq are.
There are strict rules for SiSi...if you muck about, you get reported by players and subsequently kicked off and/or banned from it by CCP.
exploiting a RR would fall into the category of 'mucking about' so on SiSi, people didn't do it.
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 26/01/2011 18:31:50 You seem to think that this is a bug, not a feature. It isn't. After hearing about this, I am now seriously considering having my alt do highsec incursions for the sole purpose of CONCORDing entire carebear fleets and harvesting their tears.
And just imagine, 15 minutes ago I thought that incursions were a complete waste of time and the most useless "expansion" ever.
^false assumptions.
In a different thread regarding this issue, a mod said very specifically "We are looking into this issue". Not "This is working as intended".
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Salliene
Gallente Cowboys and Beach Bums
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 26/01/2011 18:31:50 You seem to think that this is a bug, not a feature. It isn't. After hearing about this, I am now seriously considering having my alt do highsec incursions for the sole purpose of CONCORDing entire carebear fleets and harvesting their tears.
And just imagine, 15 minutes ago I thought that incursions were a complete waste of time and the most useless "expansion" ever.
It's staggering how quickly you came up with this completely original and unheard of plan of action. For years people will hail Merin Ryskin as the creator of the "Incursion RR" scheme. No longer will Guiding Hand Social Club be able to wear the moniker of the most insidious shadow group in EVE for they have been usurped by the fiendish mind of Merin Ryskin. Woe to those who oppose her.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:42:00 -
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Major MouseTrap
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:42:00 -
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look a fan boy
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Miss Whiskey
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:42:00 -
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And all this time I was thinking it was lunacy that was beyond ridiculous. You have shined a light on something....just...don't....know what.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Hounds of Anarchy
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:46:00 -
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OP needs more crack. --
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Major MouseTrap
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Major MouseTrap on 26/01/2011 18:53:52 i stated my comments about that 2 month ago how it can be used in incursions but CCP didnt care and this is why sisi dosn't work for play testing player like your stupid comment like your....... i read study and play games 8-10 hour a day 7 days a week if there a bug exploit game mechanic that can be abused i find it.....BTW i have found 2 major Exploits but as you know it can't be put on forums ........
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Br41n
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:56:00 -
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Ppl been talking about this before incursions hit, and ppl are still falling for it. I call it Natural Selection.....
this is EVE, TRUST NO ONE!!! and only fly with friends.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pinky: Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?
Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Jason1138
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:57:00 -
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fleets of strangers don't work
that said, fleets of "omg we're super pirates rawr" warping into incursion sites to grief people RRing their alt that they're at war with is a fantasy. super pirates die the same as anyone else in that situation. once the RR chain breaks down there is no ship that's gonna tank even a vanguard site for long
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Rezard
Minmatar Fornax Chemica
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:58:00 -
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Soundwave stated is going to be fixed and yes, CCP were away is not like they didnt knew this was going to happen...
So is a classic "I gave you STD but hey look! Heres the cure how awesome am I?" :p
Strange thing they only announced theyre working on that just after the mess up and not before, it really makes me smile :)
-- I've seen things you podpilots wouldn't believe. Faction ships on fire off the shoulder of Algintal. I've watched Banshee Torpedo's glitter in the dark near the Parchanier Gate. All those... moments will be lost in time... like... carebear tears... in rain
Time to Patch.
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Crybear Troll
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:00:00 -
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Ignorance seems to be rampant among the single player crybears it seems. The RR mechanic, now this is the important part (MECHANIC) was put into place for a very good reason. This is not a bug, its a MECHANIC, see kids we have learned a new word today. Now what is the mantra of EVE, never fly what you, oh wait not that one, lets see, oh yeah, Dont trust anyone. See Kids in eve its a harsh dog eat dog world, where trusting anyone is opening yourself up for well you know
PUGS or Pick up groups, work for all those Korean games, WoW, Guildwars and the such, but like a poster above already said, eve wasn't intended for that kind of game play. And with the RR MECHANIC, see kids i told you if you payed attention you would learn something, Some people are teaching our more less learned players about the game. There is nothing wrong with this, learn and move on.
Now see kids, the RR MECHANIC, there that word again, was put into place for among other things, to stop the Bad men from tanking concord. And yes in the days of yore this could be done. Its been around for ages and ages. But its my incursion and Crybears wanna have fun too you say, well that's all well and good, but so do the less savory of our players, these men, no gods that play the game the way it was meant to be played, and not hiding out in lol sec wanting CCP to hold their hands whilst they tank the uber DPS from a lvl 4 mission.
There is nothing to be fixed here, other then the But its too hard attitude, yes these "Rats" hurt, they are devious, and as one of my fav forum posters once said, These are not your daddy's lvl 4 mission rats. There are tools in place that will enable to you fight these Bad Men i spoke of earlier my children, CCP has given you the tools, i know its scary taking your first steps out of the NPC corps. It opens you up to all kinds of asshattery, welcome to eve, go my children join player corps, do these sites with your new player corps, and friends, and have fun and rejoice in the fact that these bad men cant hurt you using this MECHANIC again.
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Major MouseTrap
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:02:00 -
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use the NPC to your advantage for War mechanic abuse.... all i can say .....is get in a pod and realy watch the mechanic of incursion it may take you awhile but you will see..............
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound OP needs more crack.
crack delivered on thread. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:56:00 -
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You were in fleet with random people and placed your trust in them.
That's how you lose EVE
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Salliene It's staggering how quickly you came up with this completely original and unheard of plan of action. For years people will hail Merin Ryskin as the creator of the "Incursion RR" scheme. No longer will Guiding Hand Social Club be able to wear the moniker of the most insidious shadow group in EVE for they have been usurped by the fiendish mind of Merin Ryskin. Woe to those who oppose her.
Where exactly did I say that this was an original plan? I mean, considering that the OP was crying about this actually happening, I think it should be pretty obvious that I didn't come up with it myself.
But please continue with the carebear tears. I love that I don't even have to actually kill anyone to get them! -----------
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: CCP Soundwave We are looking into this issue right now.
Soundwave quoted from this thread..
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1456133
Yes? Notice how he didn't say that they're "fixing remote reps".
They'll probably fix the the actual issue: people getting unwanted GCCs. The reason they'll probably fix that one is because is nothing about remote reps that needs to be fixed ù that mechanic is working exactly as it should and it's working that way for very good reasons. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Gallians
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:07:00 -
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Awesome video, Grimpak.
No tears here, just pointing a mayor ****up by CCP. Not all players are sociopaths that enjoy seeing people quit the game in frustration and I would think that CCP would want to have more of the cooperative, pleasant kind that bring more people to their game, than the sociopaths that relish making the game the worst experience it can be.
The observations however stand. I don't think it was CCP's intent to have people mass quit in frustration or their new (and exciting) shiny discarded as garbage as soon as day 2 (no, seriously, look at those status bars, people are done with incursions, and with good reason).
CCP needs to start banning the sociopaths out to harvest tears out of good business sense. Plus they tend not to be the kind of people one would want around.
And fix their mechanics that lend themselves to trollbait over impossible scenarios from years ago (its not possible to tank concord anymore, so where does this garbage come from?)
The incursions were their big marketing push, likely to bring ew people to the game, but new people can't do them, and they get blown up for lulz. This **** needs rebalanced and there needs to be more distribution of site difficulty (I don't say nerf the hard ones, I say make more easy ones and up rewards so there is something akin to reward for the risk. And no, some trasher looting wrecks of lol RR concordoken does not count as "incursion rewards")
And of course, its high time the sociopaths who abuse the mechanics start getting banned.
And by the way, I think you are forgetting just how annoying these sigs are. |
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:14:00 -
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Quote: no, seriously, look at those status bars, people are done with incursions, and with good reason
Good. Maybe CCP will learn from this failure and stop wasting development time on useless carebear junk when there are plenty of existing features in desperate need of fixing.
Originally by: Gallians CCP needs to start banning the sociopaths out to harvest tears out of good business sense. Plus they tend not to be the kind of people one would want around.
Never going to happen. If you can't figure out why CCP is never going to change a fundamental part of the game that has been there since day 1, perhaps EVE is not the game for you? -----------
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gallians And fix their mechanics that lend themselves to trollbait over impossible scenarios from years ago (its not possible to tank concord anymore, so where does this garbage come from?)
It comes from the fact that repping GCC targets still have its place and happens all over the place, and it's essential to give those support units GCCs as well so they become legal targets. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Gallians
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Quote: no, seriously, look at those status bars, people are done with incursions, and with good reason
Good. Maybe CCP will learn from this failure and stop wasting development time on useless carebear junk when there are plenty of existing features in desperate need of fixing.
Originally by: Gallians CCP needs to start banning the sociopaths out to harvest tears out of good business sense. Plus they tend not to be the kind of people one would want around.
Never going to happen. If you can't figure out why CCP is never going to change a fundamental part of the game that has been there since day 1, perhaps EVE is not the game for you?
I dunno, you are exactly the kind of worthless sociopath I had in mind. And hey, the same was said about learnings wasn't it?
Everything points to CCP not wanting their game to be a playground for people with tiny *****es that like to play internet tough guys in space, and rather a working, popular MMO. Just look at the marketing.
Your garbage? its the past. The future is more incursions and similar content. Why?
Because it draws more people, and more people is more money. That this needs fixing/tweaking does not invalidate this, and WIS/learnings/incursions/etc should be more than proof of what I say.
The next step?
Take out the garbage.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:18:00 -
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Hey whiner, read my thread on helpful tips.
If you can fly a battle cruiser you can do incursions. There is nothing with RR it works great, you just need more practice.
Medicore rewards? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you are joking right? A 6% engineering implant? meta level capital modules? Dude seriously play your own game the rewards are some of the best out there.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:19:00 -
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Everything is working as intended.
To those who expected Incursions to be another free ISK source with no responsibility or risk of actual combat a la W*W: you're wrong. Incursions are, and were planned from the beginning, a PvP feature. If you don't like the fact that you can't retaliate against others in highsec space: get out of highsec space. ---
Originally by: Sporked EVE IS DYING RUN TO THE HILLS! WE MIGHT HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS MMO! THEY MIGHT SHOOT AT US WHILE WE ARE BUSY HOLDING HANDS AND FROLICKING! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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