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cragz
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Posted - 2011.01.27 15:59:00 -
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Due to the numerous sniper stylee requests in game for my incursion fleet fit, i have decided to post the fit here for all that want to use it.
Having completed 4 HQ's with 0 losses the buffer fit it awesome to sustain damage while awaiting the reps. Purger + low shield HP is certain death!
Tight Fit but keep to the theme of this loadout and u should be fine.
[Highs]
7x Heavy missile launcher II (named t1 for low skilled)
[Med]
2x Large Shield Extender II 1x Medium Shield Extender II 1x Magnetic Scattering Amp II 1x T1 MWD (or T2 if its fits) 1x Invulnerability Field II
[Low]
2x Power Diagnostic Systen II (for the grid + hp boost) 2x Ballistic Control Units II
[RIGS] important
3x Core Defence Field EXTENDERS
[Ammo] Thermal Heavies seemed to work best for me but not confirmed.
[Drones]
5x Light Shield / Armour Bot I's for added gang support (optional!) your logis will thank you for this help.
Not exactly a new loadout but its defo the way to go for incursion drake pilots, with out a doubt.
Tried & Tested and works well !
cheers
cragz
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Frecator Dementa
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:10:00 -
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still waiting for an EFT warrior to point out that you shouldn't fit MEDIUM extenders on a Drake ---- <sig goes here> |
Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aessoroz on 27/01/2011 16:11:50 Yea, replace the medium with another invul possibly. Buffer is good but all around good resists helps take less damage :P
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Warzon3
Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:17:00 -
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[Drake, drake incursion] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
try this more EHP then your fit ---- Dear Noah,
We could have sworn you said the ark wasn't leaving till 5.
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cragz
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:18:00 -
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i didnt use EFT i used incursion experience to test it. Less extenders means less hit points and you die faster tbh.
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Ejit
Amarr STD contractors
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:27:00 -
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I'd drop a pdu and add a DCU. It'll boost your tank to 101k ehp. Add to this a fleet booster and some shield hardwiring and your tank will be even better. PLus you still get 10 mins of cap using a best named MWD.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: cragz i didnt use EFT i used incursion experience to test it. Less extenders means less hit points and you die faster tbh.
The number you want to be basing estimations of a buffer tank on is effective hitpoints, not base hitpoints. Effective hitpoints are multiplied out by a factor based on your resistances and is a more useful number because all damage that comes in is reduced by those resistances. If you take two identical ships being dealt an identical amount of damage per second, but one has more HP and the other has higher EHP due to increased resistances, the ship with the higher base HP but lower EHP will die first.
As people have said, a medium extender on that ship is a waste, you'll be more effective with another invulnerability field in that slot instead.
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Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: cragz i didnt use EFT i used incursion experience to test it. Less extenders means less hit points and you die faster tbh.
This is a fine example of why carebears are dieing horribly in plexes.
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Quake590
Caldari Dark Halo Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:39:00 -
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Also, because of the incursion effects on resists, another extender could be the way to go. Then again, it would depend on how much the resists are lowered and this could either mean that you should swap between an invul and extender, or it could mean that it is always better to use one or the other.
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Doddy
Burning Vendetta
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Aessoroz
Originally by: cragz i didnt use EFT i used incursion experience to test it. Less extenders means less hit points and you die faster tbh.
This is a fine example of why carebears are dieing horribly in plexes.
Not emptyquotin
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: cragz
[Drones]
5x Light Shield / Armour Bot I's for added gang support (optional!) your logis will thank you for this help.
Sure..if you want to get concorded.
My tip..take that drake and go to another system where you can mission in peace and even earn isk!!
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cragz
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 27/01/2011 16:59:57
Originally by: cragz i didnt use EFT i used incursion experience to test it. Less extenders means less hit points and you die faster tbh.
The number you want to be basing estimations of a buffer tank on is effective hitpoints, not base hitpoints. Effective hitpoints are multiplied out by a factor based on your resistances and is a more useful number because all damage that comes in is reduced by those resistances. If you take two identical ships being dealt an identical amount of damage per second, but one has more HP and the other has higher EHP due to increased resistances, the ship with the higher base HP but lower EHP will die first.
As people have said, a medium extender on that ship is a waste, you'll be more effective with another invulnerability field in that slot instead.
EDIT: The fit itself needs a good bit of work. If you want a high buffer on a Drake, the setup below yields 162k EHP. You can swap up to 2 of the PDUs for BCUs for extra damage but it'll drop you down to 149k EHP. There's no MWD because the signature radius bloom from that will get you killed by the sansha bomber frigates and because the Drake can project damage a very good distance already: [Drake, incursion] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
If it's for a fleet with remote reps, also keep in mind that your resistances will increase the effective repair of any shield transferred to you as each base hitpoint repaired can absorb more future damage. As long as you're not going down due to alpha and you have RR support, it'd be more effective to swap an extender or two for more resists by using typed active hardeners.
you obviously havent done any Sansha HQ's have you ?
1. The gates in between the rooms are around 70km from combat area / warp in.
2. The sansha cruisers MWD to 150km + away. Can a drake hit at that range ?
Even when webbed it usually requires some time to get into missile range.
Slowboating can see you kicked from fleet as you have to keep up with the group for repping.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:31:00 -
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This --
Join BIG
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cragz
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: cragz
[Drones]
5x Light Shield / Armour Bot I's for added gang support (optional!) your logis will thank you for this help.
Sure..if you want to get concorded.
My tip..take that drake and go to another system where you can mission in peace and even earn isk!!
Rule No 1 - You dont rep war targets ! which is made clear in fleet chat before hand (if in a competant fleet as i have been) +10 reputation for Lupus & Edward Rothbard :)
If your dumb enought engage your drones on that sort of person then more fool you.
Btw im not a mission runner so HTFU
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: cragz Rule No 1 - You dont rep war targets ! which is made clear in fleet chat before hand (if in a competant fleet as i have been) +10 reputation for Lupus & Edward Rothbard :)
If your dumb enought engage your drones on that sort of person then more fool you.
lol good luck buddy.
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Stu Pendisdick
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:38:00 -
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[Drake, Maxx Tank] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x5
With the KVA and KYA 2000 imps, this sled gives over 170k EHP, 37k raw shields, and it's dirt cheap compared to a lot of failures I've seen ( and salvaged.....mmmmmmmm, tengu loots are yummy )
Just my two cents.
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Cecilia McMinerton
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Stu Pendis****
[Drake, Maxx Tank] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x5
With the KVA and KYA 2000 imps, this sled gives over 170k EHP, 37k raw shields, and it's dirt cheap compared to a lot of failures I've seen ( and salvaged.....mmmmmmmm, tengu loots are yummy )
Just my two cents.
Its overpriced.
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n00n3r
Caldari Malicious Destruction
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Posted - 2011.01.27 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: n00n3r on 27/01/2011 18:08:20 OP:
Fit looks decent, I personally would have went with another invuln vs the med extender, but I think both would function well.
The poster above me with the giant EM hole:
put a photon hardner on already. If those Heavy laser BS's start whaling on you, no amount of buffer in the world is going to save you. Most logi pilots won't try to rep through a failfit. They will instead let it pop and rep the next broadcast.
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Stu Pendisdick
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.27 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: n00n3r OP:
Fit looks decent, I personally would have went with another invuln vs the med extender, but I think both would function well.
The poster above me with the giant EM hole:
put a photon hardner on already. If those Heavy laser BS's start whaling on you, no amount of buffer in the world is going to save you. Most logi pilots won't try to rep through a failfit. They will instead let it pop and rep easier fleet members.
70% is a hole?
Really?
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.01.27 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: cragz
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: cragz
[Drones]
5x Light Shield / Armour Bot I's for added gang support (optional!) your logis will thank you for this help.
Sure..if you want to get concorded.
My tip..take that drake and go to another system where you can mission in peace and even earn isk!!
Rule No 1 - You dont rep war targets ! which is made clear in fleet chat before hand (if in a competant fleet as i have been) +10 reputation for Lupus & Edward Rothbard :)
If your dumb enought engage your drones on that sort of person then more fool you.
Btw im not a mission runner so HTFU
Tip wasn't to you and I have no need to htfu because I will not lost a single isk due to an incursion or the griefers in it.The tip was for people trying to lose a drake earning nothing.You can orbit a rock all day for all I care lol.
I stated my opinion so that who ever may take it or leave it for what its worth.
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cragz
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Posted - 2011.01.27 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: cragz
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: cragz
[Drones]
5x Light Shield / Armour Bot I's for added gang support (optional!) your logis will thank you for this help.
Sure..if you want to get concorded.
My tip..take that drake and go to another system where you can mission in peace and even earn isk!!
Rule No 1 - You dont rep war targets ! which is made clear in fleet chat before hand (if in a competant fleet as i have been) +10 reputation for Lupus & Edward Rothbard :)
If your dumb enought engage your drones on that sort of person then more fool you.
Btw im not a mission runner so HTFU
Tip wasn't to you and I have no need to htfu because I will not lost a single isk due to an incursion or the griefers in it.The tip was for people trying to lose a drake earning nothing.You can orbit a rock all day for all I care lol.
I stated my opinion so that who ever may take it or leave it for what its worth.
haha ok but you did quote me and the drones so I had to repay the grattitude, like ive said already i havent lost anything other than ammo 7 a couple of drones up to now.
@ n00n3r - Cheers for the input man!.
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