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Twinkly	Posted - 2011.01.28 01:50:00 - [1] Hello, I was wondering if any of you had an idea for a Tengu fit based on what you have seen recently in the Incursion release? Has anything changed from what you were normally doing with your PVE Tengu? Are HAM's performing in Incursion like it says on paper? I want to make an investment into a Fleet DPS Tengu for Incursion and this fit seems to work for me but I would like your opinion on it based on your recent experience in game, it's stable but the range is only 40.2: [Tengu, Twinkly Tengu] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Power Diagnostic System II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Target Painter II Shield Boost Amplifier II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Thank you for any input you may have.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.01.28 02:18:00 - [2] Drop the active tank, add resists and buffer: you will want high resists across the board. You will be flying in fleets with RR, trust the logistics pilots to do their job properly. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.28 02:56:00 - [3] Edited by: Target Painter on 28/01/2011 02:57:14 Originally by: Twinkly I was wondering if any of you had an idea for a Tengu fit based on what you have seen recently in the Incursion release? Has anything changed from what you were normally doing with your PVE Tengu? Damned straight. Resists and buffer. Quote: Are HAM's performing in Incursion like it says on paper? HAMs are especially gimped thanks to the incursion penalties. Quote: I want to make an investment into a Fleet DPS Tengu for Incursion and this fit seems to work for me but I would like your opinion on it based on your recent experience in game, it's stable but the range is only 40.2: [Tengu, Twinkly Tengu] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Power Diagnostic System II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Target Painter II Shield Boost Amplifier II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Thank you for any input you may have. Drop the local tank (SSB and SBA), switch to HMLs, extender rigs for additional buffer, ditch the TP for another resist mod, shield HP sub rather than the shield boost amp sub. Or the adaptive shielding one to make reps more responsive. Rigs are up in the air in a way, with some favoring additional CCCs with only one CDFE to limit sig bloat while others favor 3x CDFEs. Testing the sites on Sisi before we throw all our expensive **** into them.
AstarothPrime	Posted - 2011.01.28 10:36:00 - [4] Mmm Can I follow you in cloaky ninja looter when you depart. I promise I wont have nothing to do with your demise... all I want is spoils once sansha pop you in first 5 seconds Basically - for sansha PVE fits dont dare well. Consider it a PvP element in PvE with all PvP tricks -> they target primaries according to your actions -> being a primary = 10k omni dps against you -> you have to have buffer rather then rep -> all repping should be dedicated (remote logi) or spider (i dont see you are equipped with RR mod). This tengu of yours will be insta popped when primaried due to no buffer. Most probable scenario for this ship u have is: 1. second -> warpin 2. second -> you are primary, all targeting you 3. second all frigs are targeted on you scramming, webbing and TPing you 5. second all cruiser are targeted on you, your cap is instantly down to 0 7. second all BS target and fire their first shot - instapop 8. second -> you are warping back in your pod 9. second -> me wishes to loot wreck So - can it be arranged? I.
Twinkly	Posted - 2011.01.30 03:05:00 - [5] Well that left me generally more confused than when I arrived.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.30 03:13:00 - [6] Edited by: Target Painter on 30/01/2011 03:13:05 Originally by: Twinkly Well that left me generally more confused than when I arrived. Get logis in your Incursion fleet. Take off the shield booster and boost amplifier, use the slots for more hardeners. Add a large shield extender to protect against alpha. Use HMLs so you can hit the rats that hang out at 60-90km.
Mavnas	Posted - 2011.01.30 03:57:00 - [7] Originally by: AstarothPrime Mmm Can I follow you in cloaky ninja looter when you depart. I promise I wont have nothing to do with your demise... all I want is spoils once sansha pop you in first 5 seconds Basically - for sansha PVE fits dont dare well. Consider it a PvP element in PvE with all PvP tricks -> they target primaries according to your actions -> being a primary = 10k omni dps against you -> you have to have buffer rather then rep -> all repping should be dedicated (remote logi) or spider (i dont see you are equipped with RR mod). This tengu of yours will be insta popped when primaried due to no buffer. Most probable scenario for this ship u have is: 1. second -> warpin 2. second -> you are primary, all targeting you 3. second all frigs are targeted on you scramming, webbing and TPing you 5. second all cruiser are targeted on you, your cap is instantly down to 0 7. second all BS target and fire their first shot - instapop 8. second -> you are warping back in your pod 9. second -> me wishes to loot wreck So - can it be arranged? I. So, how big is the buffer on this Ninja salvage vessel of yours?
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.01.30 05:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Mavnas So, how big is the buffer on this Ninja salvage vessel of yours? Shush! He won't need a buffer tank because he's a ninja ;) -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2011.01.30 11:50:00 - [9] Quote: [Tengu, New Setup 3] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Large Shield Extender II Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Large Shield Extender II Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster Warp Disruptor II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Medium Core Defence Field Extender II Medium Core Defence Field Extender II Medium Core Defence Field Extender II Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Roughly 31,000 shield hp/170k EHP (35,000 hp/200k EHP with siege warfare mindlink bonus) 600 dps active tank, 50hp/sec passive regen. Does 650 dps with terror rage, 600ish with CN. The more expensive modules can easily be subbed out for cheaper t2. Alternately you can drop the shield booster for a 3rd LSE, pushing it up to about 40,000 shield hp (220k EHP) which should make your logistics pilots very happy.


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