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Naitsirch Secundus
Caldari Wraith.Wing Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 10:34:00 -
[511]
Bump for not letting this pass by and to make a point.
This incident is one too much in a line of many and it also is a significantly dissappointing one, due to the combined letdown of devs AND playerbase alike. Why? Because in the moment of invalidating the only reason Eve stood out amongst misfit-mmorpgs, people were still trolling, flaming and yet not realizing that they could be in the same place as the victims and in fact are. By either not correcting a known bug and letting an exploit go unpunished or by deliberately rigging the game itself, the programmers decided to take the sand out of the sandbox and put up a sign "do everything, as long as party x wins or we just think you suck". All that without telling more after 48hrs than the case being looked at. Paying for something the real life does to you for free is pointless. To all the trolls go my special farewell, may you get a locked-in syndrome and rott in your own excrements.
PS: notgiving away anything - go beg in the streets
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Onibrak
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.31 10:40:00 -
[512]
Figured I'd go ahead and ask, if you'd like to get rid of a drake or two fitted to T2 feel free to send me a contract. 40m firm.
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Jihn Anolar
Minmatar Autistic Sharks Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.31 10:41:00 -
[513]
How has there still been no CCP response to this?
I guess it doesn't matter, now the event has happened. CCP isn't going to roll back the server or punish their BFF - we all knew BOB never lost CCP's favour. Dismantling Molle's empire system by system WHILE they cheat makes the victory all the more sweet.
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Indy Rider
Amarr Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.31 10:58:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Jihn Anolar How has there still been no CCP response to this?.
Considering Arkanon has posted, I imagine IA has / is looking through the logs. So we'll either hear nothing because someone went and did their own thing, or a single sentance regarding a bug fix when ever the next patch comes.
In game nothing is going to be changed, just another bug that one party gets butt hurt because they were unlucky enough to find the bug.
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Cal Abunga
Amarr The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 11:03:00 -
[515]
/me waiting to see which bubbles will offline this DT
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bigbillthaboss3
Caldari STK Scientific IT Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.31 11:10:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Cal Abunga /me waiting to see which bubbles will offline this DT
Want to gamble?
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Cal Abunga
Amarr The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 11:25:00 -
[517]
how much you got :P
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Cone Filler
Caldari Highwaymen Hell's Hide-Out
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Posted - 2011.01.31 13:20:00 -
[518]
Originally by: Headerman To CCP and others,
Just speaking from myself here. I know that in NC/DCs war with IT will make no difference monetarily. I don't think that it will make a difference socially either if they did escape or get blown up.
Why is that?
Because i know they had to use a bug within the game to escape. Sure the bugs can be annoying when they are encountered, and we ALL want them fixed up, and fixed properly.
please, if you do find the error, don't do a shortcut fix on it, implement a reliable fix on it. But please, could you add a little priority to this issue? I believe it is one very critical mechanic to use, and is of course very important.
To IT, whether or not your super caps would have been destroyed is now pointless. What is the 100% truth though, is that you exploited a known bug to save yourself and your ship. You got help from your corpies ONLY by them telling you 'the bubbles are offline, log in and jump away'. You never fought your way out, you ran away because of a bug let you. Remember that, because next time there won't be a bug to save you.
/Headerman
Okay then do us all a favour and post what the bug is, how to recreate it, oh and please post the proof you have of IT actually abusing a bug on an alliance level or even that one dude abused this so called bug
Or is this just slander and hear say or maybe it is the "truth" which Mittani planted in side all of the brain washed Goonies, who have no clue about past present or future
My guess is that there is an IT spy laughing at you while hes offlining bubbles
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Orkasm
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 14:15:00 -
[519]
We bored yo
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mfw
Caldari Autistic Sharks Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.31 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cone Filler My guess is that there is an IT spy laughing at you while hes offlining bubbles
You're ****in stupid.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.31 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cone Filler Okay then do us all a favour and post what the bug is, how to recreate it, oh and please post the proof you have of IT actually abusing a bug on an alliance level or even that one dude abused this so called bug
Or is this just slander and hear say or maybe it is the "truth" which Mittani planted in side all of the brain washed Goonies, who have no clue about past present or future
My guess is that there is an IT spy laughing at you while hes offlining bubbles
Why are you so indignant about the thought of IT cheating? They've done it before; I'm sure they'd do it again if they felt they could get away with it.
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Pesadel0
Minmatar the muppets RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Tappen TL;DR at bottom.
Well, I just cancelled the subscriptions on both my accounts. They're for 6 months at a time and just went through so CCP has about 6 months to figure this out if they want to keep me as a customer.
This isn't a /ragequit (I know you're all thinking it!) because the effect on me personally is quite small. (I missed out on some killmail? There are always more!)
Instead, I look at it this way - having played many mmorpgs I realize that the value of a character or assets in game is artificial. I could set up my own server for many mmorpgs and simply edit my toons to make them into godmode (instantly destroying their value). But anyone who has used cheat codes knows that it wrecks the game really quickly, no matter what the game is. The value in achieving anything in EVE, or in any mmorpg, is the fact that the only way to achieve it is with time and effort and skill.
If the value of achievements in EVE is reduced or eliminated by allowing GMs or Devs or whoever to simply "/level 90" or "/makepos" or "/offline nmebubblez" then no achievements mean anything - that synthetic value is destroyed. This effect is, of course, magnified when there is only one "shard" and the events occur on the one and only live server.
While I think ruining someone's life by firing them seems a bit harsh, CCP still needs to get this sorted ASAP to maintain their playerbase/customerbase. That might mean some employee discipline, but that is a business decision that is fairly independent of the playerbase; what impacts the playerbase is the in-game actions CCP takes to rectify this bug/employee-malfunction.
I'm not sure why anyone working at CCP would do this particular action if they wanted to help some group of players, or, for that matter, why they would be motivated in the first place. If some rich **** somewhere pays a million a year for special privileges in game to CCP on the side, then they will lose that income along with the playerbase - when word gets out players will /ragequit (like me!) and then that rich **** won't want to pay anymore since there he would be the only one in an empty universe.
I suppose logic doesn't really apply here.
[Hopefully I upheld the WI(dot) honour with bad posting - I tried!]
~~~~~TL;DR~~~~~ EMO /RAGEQUIT
Man really get some prespective, do you really think that a CCP DEV ,after the t20 scandal, would put is job in jeopardy to save some s*ht from some station, because he was in that alliance?
And if they did that would you think they had the means to put the things that got out in there again?
Well i have my opinion about this, and that it is some kind of bug , who ever anchored and onlined some bublles knows that after awile they behave weird.
TL;DR-Suck it up , and embrance eve bugs because some are features.
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Aria Selenis
Minmatar Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:35:00 -
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Quote: Man really get some prespective, do you really think that a CCP DEV ,after the t20 scandal, would put is job in jeopardy to save some s*ht from some station, because he was in that alliance?
So your logic is, because devs have shown favoritism before, that proves that devs never show favoritism?
Gravity now disproven by objects falling, more at nine.
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Also @IT "Known Bug" people: I like this argument. Because if you're going to come out and say "this is a known bug", then you are also admitting you exploited a known bug for advantage.
Which makes the 'discipline' bit fairly easy, no?
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Effing Weetodd
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:08:00 -
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At 14:23 of 1/28 ...
Originally by: CCP Navigator Hello everyone,
We are currently looking into this issue and we will update you when we know more.
Apparently, it takes quite a long time for CCP to "know more" about things...
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Effing Weetodd
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:11:00 -
[525]
Originally by: CCP Arkanon Hi everyone,
We're looking into this, the petition filed by Test Alliance's executor corporation has been claimed and replied to by Lead GM Grimmi and we will update it as soon as we have more information as to what happened.
... three go by ...
And no word from CCP.
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Confliktus
Caldari the muppets RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:45:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Aria Selenis
Quote: Man really get some prespective, do you really think that a CCP DEV ,after the t20 scandal, would put is job in jeopardy to save some s*ht from some station, because he was in that alliance?
So your logic is, because devs have shown favoritism before, that proves that devs never show favoritism?
Gravity now disproven by objects falling, more at nine.
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Also @IT "Known Bug" people: I like this argument. Because if you're going to come out and say "this is a known bug", then you are also admitting you exploited a known bug for advantage.
Which makes the 'discipline' bit fairly easy, no?
You're missing the point, it proves that CCP are more open in relation to bugs and exploits and they are willing to stop both parties from using them in the long term ( meaning they come up with a solution asap ), wether you like it or not its a matter of perspective and relevance.
Let me clear that last bit for you,
Perspective as in people will never be satisfied with whatever measures CCP takes in order to solve a given problem.
Relevance, as in it depends on the side you are on, the NC's / Goons etc will cheast beat this one ( again ) , ITs theres nothing there to see... on the CCP side its just another barb on a long reportoire of small mistakes that they try to solve along the way.
TL&DR Gravity is overrated, sexy mamas in bikinis are now the springbreak hit.
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Lord Tappen
Minmatar The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 23:43:00 -
[527]
Originally by: Confliktus Let me clear [up] obfuscate that last bit for you,
Perspective as in people will never be satisfied with whatever measures CCP takes in order to solve a given problem.
Relevance, as in it depends on the side you are on, the NC's / Goons etc will cheast beat this one ( again ) , ITs theres nothing there to see... on the CCP side its just another barb on a long reportoire of small mistakes that they try to solve along the way.
Don't do drugs, stay in skool! You might actually learn what words like 'relevance' and 'perspective' mean.
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WisdomLikeSilence
Gallente The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.02.01 11:41:00 -
[528]
Still waiting CPP. You're looking into it? look harder.
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GM Grimmi
Gallente Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:25:00 -
[529]
Please accept our apologies for the delay, we had to check this with several departments within CCP to get all the facts straight.
We have concluded our investigation of this issue and found that the warp bubbles were offlined by an issue with warp bubble proximity to POS forcefields, i.e. warp bubbles placed close to the forcefields are in danger of going offline after downtimes.
The critical distance is around 12 km from the edge of the forcefield. So, the center of warp bubble must be farther than 42 km away from the control tower (for a large POS where forcefield radius is 30 km). Placing bubbles outside of this range should be enough to ensure they stay online after downtime.
The mechanics involved are being tuned and this matter should be cleared up soon.
GM Grimmi
Lead Game Master
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Funk Engine
Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:31:00 -
[530]
Originally by: GM Grimmi Please accept our apologies for the delay, we had to check this with several departments within CCP to get all the facts straight.
We have concluded our investigation of this issue and found that the warp bubbles were offlined by an issue with warp bubble proximity to POS forcefields, i.e. warp bubbles placed close to the forcefields are in danger of going offline after downtimes.
The critical distance is around 12 km from the edge of the forcefield. So, the center of warp bubble must be farther than 42 km away from the control tower (for a large POS where forcefield radius is 30 km). Placing bubbles outside of this range should be enough to ensure they stay online after downtime.
The mechanics involved are being tuned and this matter should be cleared up soon.
Thanks for taking it seriously! In the future we'll be more precise with our positioning.
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Iguanoid
Caldari The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:31:00 -
[531]
Originally by: GM Grimmi Please accept our apologies for the delay, we had to check this with several departments within CCP to get our story straight.
We have concluded our investigation of this issue and found that the warp bubbles were offlined.
The critical distance is around 1 system from IT's super caps. So, the center of warp bubble must be farther than 1 gate away from the control tower. Placing bubbles outside of this system should be enough to ensure they stay online after downtime.
The mechanics involved are being further tuned to suit the Bobbets and this matter will be cleared up similarly next time.
Fixed it --
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EI Digin
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:33:00 -
[532]
Originally by: GM Grimmi Please accept our apologies for the delay, we had to check this with several departments within CCP to get all the facts straight.
We have concluded our investigation of this issue and found that the warp bubbles were offlined by an issue with warp bubble proximity to POS forcefields, i.e. warp bubbles placed close to the forcefields are in danger of going offline after downtimes.
The critical distance is around 12 km from the edge of the forcefield. So, the center of warp bubble must be farther than 42 km away from the control tower (for a large POS where forcefield radius is 30 km). Placing bubbles outside of this range should be enough to ensure they stay online after downtime.
The mechanics involved are being tuned and this matter should be cleared up soon.
Thank you for the update.
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CCP Wrangler
Caldari C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:38:00 -
[533]
We've posted the result of our investigation in this forum thread, please feel free to continue the discussion over there.
Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:39:00 -
[534]
Originally by: GM Grimmi Please accept our apologies for the delay, we had to check this with several departments within CCP to get all the facts straight.
We have concluded our investigation of this issue and found that the warp bubbles were offlined by an issue with warp bubble proximity to POS forcefields, i.e. warp bubbles placed close to the forcefields are in danger of going offline after downtimes.
The critical distance is around 12 km from the edge of the forcefield. So, the center of warp bubble must be farther than 42 km away from the control tower (for a large POS where forcefield radius is 30 km). Placing bubbles outside of this range should be enough to ensure they stay online after downtime.
The mechanics involved are being tuned and this matter should be cleared up soon.
What the ****?
Where is this documented, exactly?
I mean, if "the bubbles are in danger of going offline" - you'd think it would be mentioned somewhere, no?
Why do you let them go online in the first place?
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