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Aquila Draco
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Posted - 2011.02.09 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Originally by: Vak Keelin
If there isn't softwhere for it then have one of those squiggly letter codes that web sites use when a minning ship activates it lasers. if the code given is wrong 3 times, make the ship flashy red to everyone around.
Another genius.
CAPTCHA doesn't work. Is ****. Doesn't work, and Is ****.
why is **** bad word? its only physiological need... XD
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Voddick
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Posted - 2011.02.10 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore
The only real way to combat botting is to eliminate boring static repetitive tedious game play that is easily scripted or to level the playing field on activities for which this can't be done.
This is the best way forward as far as I can see. It wonĘt harm actual human players, fill the screen with popups, or create piles of never-ending work for Devs.
The first step isnĘt to scan accounts or client memory; itĘs to remove all asteroid belts, ice fields, and re-spawning rats (stay with me for a second). Next, make asteroid sites scannable via probes and have rats guarding them. With a small number of roids at each site (30 hulk minutes worthąthink mission duration), and a few rats to shoot. Adjust the spawn rate and quality of both to diminish as the frequency of harvesting increases. This encourages people to spread out and cripples macros & macro like behavior.
With no ice fields, belts, or systems with 7+ belts to chain spawns, macros as we know them today will die. Yes, macros will adapt; but the boring tasks are improved (+1 players) the macro income has been greatly reduced (+1 players) and the never ending supply of isk, liquid or mineral has diminishing returns (+1 players).
Beating market bots is much, much easier. All market bots rely on an infinite number of market updates per day. The solutioną.either put a limit on the total number of times a player can update orders per day, or greatly increase the cool-down timer of making updates. The former would hurt actual traders much less.
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Daxine Myth
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Posted - 2011.02.10 15:59:00 -
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The eve client could be configured to exam other .exe files running and interacting with the client. Much like poker software or other anti cheat software.
I'd also like the names of banned players to be published along with the corp so that they can be named and shamed.
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skaxo
Amarr Pos production
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Posted - 2011.02.10 16:03:00 -
[64]
+1
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Anzha lyu Mitethe
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Posted - 2011.02.10 16:08:00 -
[65]
For what it's worth...
+1
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2011.02.10 17:19:00 -
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this particular solutio (petition) will not work CCP will be flooded with thousands of reports, who will answer them? and how will they detect a REAL bot? ban everyone who plays 23/7? yeah it's going to work for some time (2 days?) until people figure out that they need to re-arrange their bots so that they rat/mine 8 hours. eve online has terrible PVE and mining, it's super easy to bot. unfortunately they are too busy creating space barbies and have no time to create dynamic content.
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.02.11 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tub Chil this particular solutio (petition) will not work CCP will be flooded with thousands of reports, who will answer them? and how will they detect a REAL bot? ban everyone who plays 23/7? yeah it's going to work for some time (2 days?) until people figure out that they need to re-arrange their bots so that they rat/mine 8 hours. eve online has terrible PVE and mining, it's super easy to bot. unfortunately they are too busy creating space barbies and have no time to create dynamic content.
We are only asking them to so something... and untill now we only see ignore mode activated... there are many solutions on this forum... and CCP can look at them and decide what is the best thing to do... or they have something better... is it bot recognizing software in client, is it changes in game mechanics, is it something else, or combination of all... its up to them... just PLEASE do something...
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Perramas
Caldari Pan Caldarian Ventures
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Posted - 2011.02.13 14:17:00 -
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Dont suspend or ban bot accoounts, delete them then ban by IP address.
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Priscilla Fancypants
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Posted - 2011.02.13 21:42:00 -
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Look man. The problem is pretty simple and you all are pretty dumb if you agree with the first post. 90% of the people in this channel are too stupid to use botting, so they ***** that they have to make money the old fashioned way. CCP allows bots and as such you should learn to move with the times |
Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita
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Posted - 2011.02.13 23:11:00 -
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Supported.
Going further, it should really be a no-brainer for CCP to introduce an automatic "Report Botter" petition, much the same way they introduced a "Report ISK Spammer" petition, that is accessible from the right-click menu. Anyone reported as a botter enough times should automatically be flagged for review by CCP staff, and perchance added to a public list of suspected botters.
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Max Kolonko
Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.13 23:21:00 -
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signed with all my 8 tentac...errr, I meant my 2 arms
seriously CCP, for me you could drop the next expansion in favor of this. Max Kolonko |
Merc Psi
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Posted - 2011.02.13 23:41:00 -
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Supported.
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Aleena Doran
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:58:00 -
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Supported. And the CSM being upstanding members of the community, often affiliated with major alliances, and aware of much that happens in eve should publicly state their opposition to pilots, corps and alliances that benefit from bots.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.02.14 13:46:00 -
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I'll tell you one thing CCP CAN do.
Hand out meaningful bans.
Caught once with a bot - one month ban. Twice - 6 month ban. Third time - permanent ban on ALL accounts the player holds.
The "bans" they hand out to botters now are a joke and show CCP is NOT SERIOUS in any way about dealing with botting.
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Mauryce
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Posted - 2011.02.14 13:59:00 -
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Put hands on work, now!!
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Inari Kobayashi
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Posted - 2011.02.14 14:01:00 -
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This has to be one of the top two threats to long term player disaffection (along with lag) - we have a war on lag and we now need a war on bots.
I for one will be voting for CSM candidates who take this issue seriously
If CCP are not taking this point seriously enough then we have to shout louder
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yani dumyat
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.02.14 15:44:00 -
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Scyth Darkhope
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.02.14 17:13:00 -
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The best idea is certainly to remove local. Bots wouldn't be able to operate as easily, and 0.0 pvp would also be improved.
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consigner
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Posted - 2011.02.14 19:20:00 -
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+1
What is the point of an MMO where you are playing against computers not players ??
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Katarina reid
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Posted - 2011.02.14 19:31:00 -
[80]
Supported
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Valcerus
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Posted - 2011.02.15 20:54:00 -
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Im so sick of petitioning bots in High Sec Plexes like angel Creo-mining. IM SO SICK CCP !! HEAR ME!
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.02.16 11:06:00 -
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Quote:
The way I see it, the entities without fat moons available use them as alternative ISK faucets. Income appears to be about the same if going by the even growth of super-capitals across the cluster, so "meh".
CCP put objectives to achieve (i.e. conquering said moons). By circumventing the reward, you make 0.0 a stagnant sea of farmers. Who bothers, if the money comes out without moving off your home?
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Ivanauskas
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Posted - 2011.02.16 13:28:00 -
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+1
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Dariah Stardweller
NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.02.16 18:26:00 -
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Since botting is getting completly out of hand and it is one of the most vicious threats to the game I have to support this.
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Randal Eirikr
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Posted - 2011.02.16 22:44:00 -
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"Yeah the interface has a "Report ISK spammer" option, whatever that means. Why not have a "report botter" menu option."
^ What he said.
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SiIver Twin
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Posted - 2011.02.16 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: SiIver Twin on 16/02/2011 23:48:52
Originally by: Henry Haphorn Lag may be a problem, but so is boting since they have a direct negative impact on the New Eden economy. Price inflations caused by macro ratters collecting endless bounties while ore prices plummet as macro miners flood the market with ores.
Here's a simple bit of Economics, macro miners flood the market with cheaper mins. buy them up and build guns. shoot the macro miners.
The miner loses a ship, the ganker losses a ship and both need replaced. (increasing the demand for minerals and decreasing the supply) slowly pushing the mineral prices up for honest mining folk...
Hulkageddon is coming. Primary the macro users if you have such a big problem with them.
The big problem with trying to stop macro users is that their programs have randomized keystrokes/delays added into there function making it harder to identify them from an efficient miner.
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2011.02.18 16:39:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 18/02/2011 23:41:55 Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 18/02/2011 23:36:42 Anti-bot initiative supported.
My proposal: - 15 day ban (half of monthly subscription) after being reported by players and account examined by GMs - if the botting practice on that account continues after the temporary ban, 15 more days are applied, etc...
Reason: to be able to be profitable as it is now, a botter must double his botting army which is easier to spot, report, examine and ban. It would make their life much harder and hopefully, with the help of real players, their job not profitable/possible. For those that can't afford doubling the amount of bots or making botting profitable with 15 day bans, I'll just say don't let the doors hit you on your way out of this game. We didn't want you in the game anyway.
Originally by: SiIver Twin The big problem with trying to stop macro users is that their programs have randomized keystrokes/delays added into there function making it harder to identify them from an efficient miner.
Harder to identify? It can't be easier that this: http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1101/2011.01.25.16.20.jpg
There are literally hundreds of these guys all around Caldari highsec.
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Imigo Montoya
Hysterically Unforgiving Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.02.19 09:05:00 -
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I always support the removal of cheating from a game.
However your proposal offers no implementable solution, just "make it a priority". What exactly are you suggesting CCP do?
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:56:00 -
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yes. we shouldnt even be asking for this.
ccp sort it out, no excuses any more.
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