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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2011.09.26 22:04:00 -
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It only costs sec status when ganking in high and low. I see no reason to pop a pod in those situations, other than lulz.
At war, it's a useful tool to disperse a fleet and cost them assets.
In null it delays their response and allows your fleet to reposition or move out while they are out of contact with you. |
Faith Sunstrider
Manufact Co.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 00:54:00 -
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quick question: podding someone that is red near a low sec gate triggers the sentry guns? |
Johan Marberg
Gradient Electus Matari
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 01:15:00 -
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Mostly I avoid pod killing people as the sec hits can be pretty dire and I still want to be able to access highsec. The exceptions being if they're some one I really dislike, or outlaws or war targets (cos outlaw/WT pods have no calories). And sometimes I'll pod people if they'te too slow to get out as an object lesson in the importance of having a good bailout drill.
Fast lockers will get pods in losec if the person being tipped out of their ship is not quick off the mark. |
Mousserande
Scarecrows of Pompous Intentions
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 01:31:00 -
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To fill up my corpse container . You guys know there is somewhat of a market for corpses right? If you podded Chribba or some other eve-famous pilot you-¦d surely get a few millions for the corpse. It-¦s a sick game alright.. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
3
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Posted - 2011.09.27 01:51:00 -
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As long as the pod is at war or -5 - always pod.
Podding outside that i s risk vs. percieved reward |
Jack Olev
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
3
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Posted - 2011.09.27 02:16:00 -
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Hey Op,
This is a game. People pod other people because they feel like it. Let them play how they want to. |
Jack Olev
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
3
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Posted - 2011.09.27 02:21:00 -
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Oh and is this why you posted in the forums?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13579354
Lost your first pod huh?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13579355 |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
9
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Posted - 2011.09.27 06:26:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:That is the question.
I've been wondering about why players seem to be so keen on podding other players after the ship has been destroyed.
My thought process is this.
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
If it were for loott and the pilot is in a better ship then it would make more sense to allow the defeated pilot to return quicker than waitig for him to crawl out the clone vats which could be a lot further away than the replacement ship. Besides, if one pods another player then he's less likely to want to return for another swing and, as a pirate, one would wish to have one's targets to return time and time again.
the only time when I can see podding as a valid strategem is when one is trying to clear out an area of New Eden but for the most part this in't going to be the situation.
So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
There are no security hits in Null. If you're really that concerned about your security rating maybe you should actually go somewhere that the law isn't sitting 30k off you to do so.
As for prodding it comes with the game. If you're worry bout your pod. Give up a ransom in local to let them know. Some pirates and ransomers will keep their words. Some won't, but seriously don't ***** about hi-sec PvP mechanics such as this..
They are working as intended |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
53
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:45:00 -
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Once you learn to spam warp Low sec podding mechanics are a good test of your computer hardware and internet connection.
If you have a good computer and connection you can roll with expensive implants and be elite. If not you can't.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
2
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:59:00 -
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Of course I lost my first pod. I would expect that most people have lost their first pod. In fact, to have been podded even once would mean that one would have lost their first pod.
But that is of no consequence and your comment really doesn't make much difference if I have been podded once or a thousand times and, currently being a miner, it's not too likely I would have had much chance to pop someone's capsule.
So my question was a simple and straight forward one asking what advantages lay in podding as a part of the game (and, yes, thank you - I was aware that this is a game).
Anyway, thanks again everyone for your comments. It's interesting to see the range of replies from 'always do' to 'I do but only if...' and the well explained reasoning. |
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grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.09.27 22:00:00 -
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Othran wrote:Mara Abraham wrote:Good day, Myfanwy Heimdal:
Point pod, convo pilot, give pilot 30 seconds to pay a reasonable ransom. If they pay, let them go; if not, blow them up.
Thank you.
Bloody hell - "Drifting for Jesus" is now in the Tuskers? /me boggles Best of luck to you Mara, you just don't strike me as a Tusker :)
This ^^^ Mara is so polite she probably asks them please to pay.. and apologizes for the podding
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 01:46:00 -
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In general, I let the pod go in 0.1+ space.
I do, however, need to keep my security-status reasonable, and it doesn't take too many pod-kills--podding in 0.4 especially, is a huge security-hit--to go blinky-blinky. Up to you, but I've found blinky-ness to be just a tedious pain in the arse.
Exceptions:
1) If it's someone I really detest, or if they've podded me before--fair's fair, after all 2) If they're being smack-talking, rude 'tards--it's a very explicit way of saying, "STFU already, basement-dweller!" 3) If I've offered a ransom on the pod that was subsequently refused 4) If they're a legal war-target or outlaw, podding of whom carries no penalties.
In zerosec, if I can get the pod I will, as it's a potential scout/intel-source, and in wormhole-space, I definitely will make all efforts to get the pod, as you don't want strangers in your wormhole any longer than is absolutely unavoidable, and moreover, you don't want them coming back too soon, either. |
Potato IQ
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2011.09.28 07:52:00 -
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Stopping a return to fight due to travel time, or at least severely hindering, if they havenGÇÖt been smart with their clone positioning is a tactical advantage that you cannot ignore
It can also serve as a reminder of the cost of silly HS war games or an attempt to come play in our backyard uninvited
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Taurean Eltanin
The Tuskers
4
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Posted - 2011.09.28 10:10:00 -
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grumpyguts1 wrote:Othran wrote:Mara Abraham wrote:Good day, Myfanwy Heimdal:
Point pod, convo pilot, give pilot 30 seconds to pay a reasonable ransom. If they pay, let them go; if not, blow them up.
Thank you.
Bloody hell - "Drifting for Jesus" is now in the Tuskers? /me boggles Best of luck to you Mara, you just don't strike me as a Tusker :) This ^^^ Mara is so polite she probably asks them please to pay.. and apologizes for the podding
Actually, we're a pretty polite corp. I generally always start my ransom requests with a complement about the fight.
And Mara seems to have settled into the corp magnificently. http://flight-of-dragons.blogspot.com/ |
Nurse Elise
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 10:49:00 -
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I will pod if someone has a POS in my WH or has been a ****** in local. I wont pod after a good heavy fight or someone pays the ransom. . Sometimes its just fun to scram a pod ....wait a while and warp off. It shows strength.... |
Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.28 15:56:00 -
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Good day:
The Tuskers are a very family oriented, low security space, pvp combat corporation.
I've yet to meet a Tusker (even prior to joining them) that was not polite. It was their professionalism, extremely ingenious pilot skills, reputation, and being polite that lead me to joining them.
Back to podding... while I was not in the gang (dinner time), last night a Tusker gang made over 350 million isk in ransoms from ship as well as pod captures; and the customers were let go once they paid.
While the spreadsheet is not yet updated completely, not including a few ransoms, 11,686,916,260.81 ISK paid in ransoms to The Tuskers members.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Satav
Latinum Exports
24
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Posted - 2011.09.29 15:42:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
Clearly, you've never pvped in 0.0. and do all your pvp in lowsec.........
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
To put it plainly, nothing gives me greater pleasure than podding someone knowing that i might have just killed their clone with a full crystal set, snake set, or talisman set, plus their +5 implants as well. Just think of all the isk you just destroyed. This is the "underlying rational."
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"Your Erebus is docked? How the frack did that happen?" "It took a lot of grease and pushing........." |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
16
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Posted - 2011.09.30 08:17:00 -
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Satav wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
First of all podding seems to give a massive security hit. Apart from bragging rights this doesn't offer anythign positive and, besies, a pilot with a large negative rating from destroying hundreds of ships and not podding is t be more feared than one who has destroyd fewer ships but tries to destroys the opponent's capsule.
Clearly, you've never pvped in 0.0. and do all your pvp in lowsec......... Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
To put it plainly, nothing gives me greater pleasure than podding someone knowing that i might have just killed their clone with a full crystal set, snake set, or talisman set, plus their +5 implants as well. Just think of all the isk you just destroyed. This is the "underlying rational." _______________________________________________________________________________ "Your Erebus is docked? How the frack did that happen?" "It took a lot of grease and pushing........."
Pretty much....
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March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
3
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Posted - 2011.09.30 09:40:00 -
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Satav wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: So, my question is; what is the underlying rationale for podding shipwrecked victims? Is there one or is it simply a case that the game is now full of players who confuse Eve with a first peson shooter console game?
To put it plainly, nothing gives me greater pleasure than podding someone knowing that i might have just killed their clone with a full crystal set, snake set, or talisman set, plus their +5 implants as well. Just think of all the isk you just destroyed. This is the "underlying rational." some say: make yourself rich instead of crying about others richness.... But we know: this is for the weak!
on more serious note: you gave the main reason why i don't respect pvp-oriented players in Eve.... Too little and cheap ideas and targets.....
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chadbrochill17
Vendetta Technologies
1
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:02:00 -
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St Mio wrote:Corpses for my corpse container \o/ Soon my tea party will be upgraded to a full on banquet of corpses all dressed up prim and proper like lords and ladies :D This.
Also, when I used to PvP, the majority of the time it was in wormholes. The reason I would always go for pods in such an environment was to prevent players on the opposing side from being able to reship in a timely enough manner to effect the outcome of the fight. |
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Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:45:00 -
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It's funny.
You get a tiny frozen man popsicle (steady).
Your victim loses their implants. This often leads to real rage.
It's an extra slap in the face. One can opt NOT to pod as a mark of respect. I typically don't pod if someone gave me a standup fight. Podding someone is like the final insult.
If that doesn't amuse you I don't know what's wrong with you.
if you want a more logical answer -
It's significant economic damage.
If your aim is to deprive your opponent of ISK then a set of +4s or a pirate set is a nice dent in their wallet.
If you get the pod you can ransom it too.
Who cares about the sec hit? If you're going aroudn violencing peoples boats you're going to end up -10 sooner or later. |
Issac Haydron
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 05:29:00 -
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if you're slow enough to actually get pointed, you deserve it |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:05:00 -
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I am all for instant pod destruction, double so with instant ship destruction that includes the pod at the same time. Why wait for someone to do it, I can do it myself! Boom! Saves me the time of waiting for them to put me into hull or dealing with the hassle of "e-honor" of a ransom as if I could trust them |
BobFenner
Black Hole Runners
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 19:33:00 -
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I live in wormhole space and will ALWAYS try to pod a pilot if the opportunity is available. The main reason has nothing to do with isk, implants or ransoms. It is purely as a means of denying the pilot access to our part of space for as long as possible.
Although I must admit that we do own a cargo container which is kept purely for frozen corpses.
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Dorian Greene
1st MC
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:28:00 -
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TO! |
Freyh
ClownStar
1
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Posted - 2011.10.03 10:13:00 -
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Its a mix of "because i can", sending him out of the system, and maximal damage. |
Freako X
Deviant Inc
43
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:19:00 -
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I've been podded and I've podded (not on this character ... yet).
There is heavy reliance on kill boards in this game. Ship + Pod = 2 kills. It's 2 for one and helps with the K-boards.
What other reason is needed? I'm a 'nice' person in real life. I tend to pod when able in Eve. I'm still pretty nice in Eve too
Overall it is situational. The situation tends to lean toward podding. |
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 18:38:00 -
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If I attack someone and he fails to pay ransom then I pod. It specially helps reminding him about his clone loss by linking his corps in local, it shows him and others what happened if u don't pay
I often fly alone in low sec but I seems to be the only one some times so I pod because a pod can provide intel and more important a warp in for his friends, it also annoying to have pods on my overview as I need actually threats on there.
I pod because he might give fleet bonuses to fleet members that are about to warp in on me. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
3
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Posted - 2011.10.03 18:40:00 -
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Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:If I attack someone and he fails to pay ransom then I pod. It specially helps reminding him about his clone loss by linking his corps in local, it shows him and others what happened if u don't pay
I often fly alone in low sec but I seems to be the only one some times so I pod because a pod can provide intel and more important a warp in for his friends, it also annoying to have pods on my overview as I need actually threats on there.
I pod because he might give fleet bonuses to fleet members that are about to warp in on me.
Now these are new and interesting points - thanks. |
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Next Generation Material Solutions
19
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Posted - 2011.10.03 20:32:00 -
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Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:If I attack someone and he fails to pay ransom then I pod. It specially helps reminding him about his clone loss by linking his corps in local, it shows him and others what happened if u don't pay
I often fly alone in low sec but I seems to be the only one some times so I pod because a pod can provide intel and more important a warp in for his friends, it also annoying to have pods on my overview as I need actually threats on there.
I pod because he might give fleet bonuses to fleet members that are about to warp in on me.
Oh hey, Ferox guy! What are the odds. |
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