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Crimson Midnight
Amarr Soulless Armada
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Posted - 2011.01.30 10:23:00 -
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Sansha's Nation and the Blood Raiders have worked together in the past. Now, Master Kuvakei makes his courageous attack into the empire, and many dare stand against him.
Then there are those, who consider themselves strong, who swore to support Master Kuvakei.
There is an opportunity now like never before to confront those who directly oppose the rule of Sansha's Nation, the Blood Raiders. They have brought their ships and their guns against the Nation and have now too foolishly proclaimed themselves as our enemies. They have shown their faces, and we know their names. Let us hunt them wherever they fly, and remind them who should rule. Let us cleanse the homeworlds of the Nation and Blood Raiders, to remind those there that they fly in holy skies where their deference must always be to those sovereign.
There is room for a power, dedicated unwaveringly to the power and strength of the Nation and the Blood Raider Covenant, to show the capsuleers that they have chosen the wrong side, and that they will pay for it with their blood.
This is a call, to find those capsuleers who will stand up and fight against these pathetic enemies, and form a new power that will grow unbound. Show your support, here or in private, and let us rule together.
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Jesmine Kyriel
Amarr House Kyriel Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.30 10:48:00 -
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The strong? Your transmission here shows you have no idea what makes one strong. No recollection of where true strength lies.
It's not very surprizing to me however. Nation sympatizers and heretical Sani Sabik never understood the consept of strength to begin with.
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Niraia
Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.01.30 11:50:00 -
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Unity is strength. Keep posting, targets. -
shipsofeve.com eohpoker.com sanshasnation.net
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Athroseilon Yeva
Amarr The Ascendant Order
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Posted - 2011.01.30 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Niraia Unity is strength. Keep posting, targets.
"There is no unity outside of God, no Oneness that transcends His spirit. Those bound outside of the Lord are as brittle reeds; already their strength has failed them, though they know it not."
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Two Shots
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.30 18:47:00 -
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You do not call to the strong. You call to the gullible. If you wanted the responses of strong entities, then you would have appealed for help privately through some other means than this publicly-viewable and often-mocked forum. You call to the self-important, special snowflakes of the cluster. You call to the whining malcontents and sycophants in New Eden, who instead of joining with others have in their misguided self-importance struck out either on their own or in small conclaves.
Capsuleers have the power to help you, but not the capsuleers that you're addressing. You will find nothing but angst and indecisiveness on this forum. If you wish to do something more than broadcast empty platitudes to an apathetic universe, then you should drop your transparent facade and speak with candor to one of the many entities in deep space capable of responding with strength.
Perhaps you could ask the IT Alliance; I hear they and their vassals have been fighting a long and profitable war against the Blood Raider pirates in Delve.
Two Shots Goonwaffe
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.30 18:50:00 -
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Deep, profound and utterly correct wisdom from a Goon?
Though no doubt stranger things have happened. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.01.30 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots You call to the whining malcontents and sycophants in New Eden, who instead of joining with others have in their misguided self-importance struck out either on their own or in small conclaves.
Well-- to be fair, I think she's trying to condense those solo-operators and small groups into a larger whole.
And really, what reason would the nullsec powers have to aid the Nation and Raiders? The sheer fun of it? That might work for a little while, but in the long run it wouldn't be worth the effort. She'd have to offer them something to make it worth the trouble.
I doubt she can offer them enough.
She's calling to the ideologically-motivated Sani, those who like to think themselves strong. She's trying to unite them. Of course, it's unlikely to work: the capsuleer sects of the Sani Sabik are pretty much as you describe them.
Mind you, one or two really do seem to understand power (if nothing else).
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Black Inquisition
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Posted - 2011.01.30 21:34:00 -
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Crimson,
You are welcome to bring that drivel into the Kingdom any time you like. Just make sure you bring friends.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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Pac SubCom
True Creation The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.31 09:08:00 -
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Now this is the Law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky; And the Wolf who shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf who shall break it must die. Like the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back - For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the Pack. --------------- ∞ TQFE
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Two Shots
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.01 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Originally by: Two Shots You call to the whining malcontents and sycophants in New Eden, who instead of joining with others have in their misguided self-importance struck out either on their own or in small conclaves.
Well-- to be fair, I think she's trying to condense those solo-operators and small groups into a larger whole.
And really, what reason would the nullsec powers have to aid the Nation and Raiders? The sheer fun of it? That might work for a little while, but in the long run it wouldn't be worth the effort. She'd have to offer them something to make it worth the trouble.
I doubt she can offer them enough.
She's calling to the ideologically-motivated Sani, those who like to think themselves strong. She's trying to unite them. Of course, it's unlikely to work: the capsuleer sects of the Sani Sabik are pretty much as you describe them.
Mind you, one or two really do seem to understand power (if nothing else).
I would imagine that those individuals whom you reference understand power by their own merit and not because they have chosen or were born into the Sani Sabik faith. As to the rabble, I don't see what possible benefit she hopes to reap from marshaling a host of self-righteous narcissists into the same corral where they will doubtlessly be more apt to bicker among themselves than to accomplish anything noteworthy. But one could say--and many probably have said--the same about Goonswarm and TEST. I suppose we can just leave it to history to see who the influential and powerful really are; though, I wouldn't mind if you were to blurt out the answers ahead of time. Don't worry, I'll keep the secret.
Two Shots Goonwaffe
Goonswarm Federation Official Recruiting Officer |
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Mad Murgan
Minmatar Night Breed Pack Spectrum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.01 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Niraia Unity is strength. Keep posting, targets.
Come get some then, maybe I'll silence at least your voice. Sanity is relative.
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Gistatis Tribunus
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Posted - 2011.02.01 05:55:00 -
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The Bloodies are a bunch of backwards savages who would make even the most unrefined Matari look like a well-refined Angel combat pilot. I support their demise.
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Two Shots
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gistatis Tribunus The Bloodies are a bunch of backwards savages who would make even the most unrefined Matari look like a well-refined Angel combat pilot. I support their demise.
As far as incompetent pirates go, I personally prefer to rub virtual elbows with a Serpentis Lord Admiral from time to time.
Two Shots Goonwaffe
Goonswarm Federation Official Recruiting Officer |
Gistatis Tribunus
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots
Originally by: Gistatis Tribunus The Bloodies are a bunch of backwards savages who would make even the most unrefined Matari look like a well-refined Angel combat pilot. I support their demise.
As far as incompetent pirates go, I personally prefer to rub virtual elbows with a Serpentis Lord Admiral from time to time.
They aren't that bad. They should go back to being one of the better incompetent pirate forces since Fountain has been cleared of the tyrannical capsuleers that threatened them.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots I would imagine that those individuals whom you reference understand power by their own merit and not because they have chosen or were born into the Sani Sabik faith.
Probably, though outlook and upbringing usually have something to say about how a person's "merit" develops.
Revan Neferis (definitely rich and/or powerful enough to throw her weight around at the middle-sized level), to name one example, would probably be quite a different person if she weren't so in love with power-- and that love affair is part and parcel of her faith.
Quote: As to the rabble, I don't see what possible benefit she hopes to reap from marshaling a host of self-righteous narcissists into the same corral where they will doubtlessly be more apt to bicker among themselves than to accomplish anything noteworthy.
She apparently hopes to give them something they can all agree on to work towards, and keep the bickering delayed until it's accomplished.
Again, of course, there's little reason to think she'll succeed....
Quote: But one could say--and many probably have said--the same about Goonswarm and TEST.
Some have, yes. Still, fractious though it may be, Goonswarm's managed to forge itself quite a history.
... In capsuleer terms, anyway. More on that in a minute.
Quote: I suppose we can just leave it to history to see who the influential and powerful really are; though, I wouldn't mind if you were to blurt out the answers ahead of time. Don't worry, I'll keep the secret.
The question isn't so much "who the influential and powerful really are" as "who is influential and powerful in what?"
Nullsec? There's no question that Goonswarm and TEST are major players. The Sani pilots occasionally seem to dip their toes, but as far as I know none of the major powers are Sani-oriented (or really oriented towards any human faction at all, really). That's capsuleer territory: the playground of the large powers. "Loyalists" of any sort are rare; U'K and CVA are probably the only two that have been even modest players in that arena. Most loyalists seem to appear as either lone partisans (Vlad Cetes) or little vassal powers.
So, no contest.
But when you look at the primary contacts between capsuleers and humanity, loyalists take a much more leading role. Nullsec powers associate with whoever it's convenient to associate with and hunt whoever it's convenient to hunt, true? If you're in Blooder territory, some of your members are likely ratting, others mission-running; never mind that you're both working for and shooting at the exact same people.
Most nullsec powers operate this way, yes?
Loyalists, on the other hand, are exactly that. They back one group or another of humans and stick with them (sometimes to the detriment of all concerned, but that's another discussion). That's what these Sani are. If they make progress in the name of their chosen faction, that is progress that the faction is more likely to notice and/or derive benefit from.
This progress is not generally against the outer powers, BIQ's recent forrays aside. The wars of said powers are about as relevant to most loyalists as a very, very large cat fight (tiger fight?) raging around outside the house: it's noisy; it's dangerous to get mixed up in; it's somebody else's problem.
Territory the nullsec powers regard as second or third-class space (Empire lowsec and, to a lesser degree the "unconquerable" human-faction nullsec systems) are prime territory for loyalists, not because of their resources, or lack thereof, but because of what they represent.
The two spheres interact pretty minimally most of the time. Their priorities, targets, and motivations are all generally different. So, while I agree with you that this "call to arms" will turn out to be futile, and I agree, that trying to do it quietly would likely have worked better than shouting from a street corner, the target audience is the right one: the only one that might listen.
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Ber Kan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:10:00 -
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Obedience Breeds Discipline, Discipline Breeds Unity, Unity Breeds Power, Power is Life.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Propaganda Due
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth Revan Neferis (definitely rich and/or powerful enough to throw her weight around at the middle-sized level), to name one example, would probably be quite a different person if she weren't so in love with power-- and that love affair is part and parcel of her faith.
I won't disagree with your statement.
RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Calathea Sata
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Posted - 2011.02.02 23:21:00 -
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I concur.
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Kodath Ulkosh
Amarr Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2011.02.03 03:28:00 -
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Those of us who are of the Sani Sabik, the one true faith, declare our support for our allies in the Nation. Even though the Heretics of the Amarr Empire have prevailed of late, we who support the Blood Raiders will never cease in our quest to regain our home worlds.
Some have decried the ideology of vision which we hold. They, like the decrepit Empires they serve, only live to amass ISK and power for themselves, never striving for something greater than themselves.
For it is in the striving for a Vision greater than oneself, that true purpose can be found. For this is what truly lasts.
Let the Null sec Empires quarrel over lonely, empty space. The real power in New Eden lies in the Four Corrupt Empires at its core. And if Master Kuvakei can shake the Empires' position even in the least, that would be of great benefit to those who refuse to kneel at their feet.
Every great movement has started with a few committed individuals. The Master's Incursions will not be stopped by the prattle of the unbelievers!
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. |
Lucius Vindictus
Amarr East Khanid Trading
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Posted - 2011.02.03 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots You do not call to the strong. You call to the gullible. If you wanted the responses of strong entities, then you would have appealed for help privately through some other means than this publicly-viewable and often-mocked forum. You call to the self-important, special snowflakes of the cluster. You call to the whining malcontents and sycophants in New Eden, who instead of joining with others have in their misguided self-importance struck out either on their own or in small conclaves.
Capsuleers have the power to help you, but not the capsuleers that you're addressing. You will find nothing but angst and indecisiveness on this forum. If you wish to do something more than broadcast empty platitudes to an apathetic universe, then you should drop your transparent facade and speak with candor to one of the many entities in deep space capable of responding with strength.
It isn't often that I get to agree wholeheartedly with something written on this summit.
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