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Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.20 11:30:00 -
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I bet that the off grid nerf will cause a massive increase in FW pvp. |
Crosi Wesdo
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
352
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:02:00 -
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:I bet that the off grid nerf will cause a massive increase in FW pvp.
Dont know about that, ill be throwing my boosted thrasher into a lot less outnumbered situations. |
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:05:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:I bet that the off grid nerf will cause a massive increase in FW pvp. Dont know about that, ill be throwing my boosted thrasher into a lot less outnumbered situations.
And I'll be more willing to get into fights with people who appear to be alone because you won't have links |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
200
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Posted - 2012.08.20 19:27:00 -
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sad thing is that you can not use any links in most plexes after off grid nerf ! |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
98
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Posted - 2012.08.20 19:29:00 -
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That's a good thing
Bad Messenger wrote:sad thing is that you can not use any links in most plexes after off grid nerf !
I am looking forward to not being accused of using boosts anymore :) Is sexy time? |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
162
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:00:00 -
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Is there an article on this or something? Or is this just speculation based on the CSM minutes? I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
102
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:17:00 -
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At least i'll have a reason to log the damnation alt in. Right now its gathering dust because of all the legions out there.
I am totally going to warp to a major plex, roll right in and pew with....... oh no that's right. I'll just let the account die... silly me. |
Dan Carter Murray
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:20:00 -
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is everyone aware about the battlecruiser 99% reduction in cpu for warfare links? cheaper than tech 3s and they fit in majors!
tbh i'd like to see a cruiser with the same bonus when/if they remove OGB.
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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
102
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:33:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:is everyone aware about the battlecruiser 99% reduction in cpu for warfare links? cheaper than tech 3s and they fit in majors!
tbh i'd like to see a cruiser with the same bonus when/if they remove OGB.
The man makes a good point. My old prophecy has a job now whoop!
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Garr Earthbender
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:45:00 -
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I took a look at this topic and thought 'BRILLIANT! Someone took every single topic from the 1st page of this sub-forum and rolled them all into one thread!'
Then I realized that it was a serious topic. I am disappoint. -Rock is overpowered, Scissors is fine. |
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Whar Target
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.08.21 00:06:00 -
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Hrett wrote:Is there an article on this or something? Or is this just speculation based on the CSM minutes? Nothing in writing, no dev posts, just a few people on the forums starting the same threads over and over thinking that if they stir up enough **** CCP will make a game change that will completely kill one of the best reasons people have for keeping a 2nd account active.
There's a reason there hasn't been a single dev post on this, just a quote here and there among the countless threads from the same people begging to nerf it. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
432
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:32:00 -
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CCP Yttr said that off grid boosts should be removed from game in the CSM minutes. Then posts. |
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:51:00 -
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it would be a great change if they truly went on with removing off grid boosting.
It would be glorious that people would actually have to put their assets into harms way if they want to benefit from them !
But im sure the "elite pvp" folk will cry rivers , lakes and whole oceans over this and be all like "Im so gonna quit mah boost accounts CCP ... JUST YOU WAIT !!" |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
125
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Posted - 2012.08.21 17:05:00 -
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I approve this message. Rabble Rabble!! Don't mind me. I just enjoy crapping all over the forums and laughing at the people who take it too seriously. |
Austneal
Gallente 103rd
36
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Posted - 2012.08.22 03:45:00 -
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I kinda like the idea of boosters having to be on grid. Would give me a reason to train more leadership skills :P |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:32:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:That's a good thing Bad Messenger wrote:sad thing is that you can not use any links in most plexes after off grid nerf ! I am looking forward to not being accused of using boosts anymore :) You must be totally awesome or something to get accused of using boosts all the time. |
Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
42
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:57:00 -
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I foreseee lots of people unsubbing as their supposed reputation rested solely on their double link alts and in actual fact they are pretty damn terrible players.
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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
660
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:07:00 -
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don't ganglinks go in the highslots? i feel like any dedicated ship to links will be trash in every thing ( except tank and oh hey giving boosts) might as well put warp stabs on it. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
196
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Posted - 2012.08.25 06:45:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:is everyone aware about the battlecruiser 99% reduction in cpu for warfare links? cheaper than tech 3s and they fit in majors!
tbh i'd like to see a cruiser with the same bonus when/if they remove OGB.
This. I always have an extra utility high slot left when fitting a battle cruiser and end up putting something like a small nuet or drone augmenter. Or canes would take out the two nuets for a link. I personally love it when I hear that someone has a link on a battlecruiser. It shows forethought and team spirit.
On the other hand the tech 3 boosting alts in my opinion are extremely lame. I now a good number of 'pvp' pilots that wont undock or jump into a system without one. Even when flying a freaking thrasher (i'm looking at you johnpaul).
Should they be nerfed? Hell yes
Will they be nerfed? Probably not. why would CCP remove a feature that ensures ALOT of people have an extra account? It just doesn't make good business sense from CCP.
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Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1044
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:51:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:CCP Yttr said that off grid boosts should be removed from game in the CSM minutes. Then posts.
I look forward to the next time you flip **** for losing a comet to an Incursus...
Dan Carter Murray wrote:is everyone aware about the battlecruiser 99% reduction in cpu for warfare links? cheaper than tech 3s and they fit in majors!
The boost is marginal without the effectiveness bonus that Command Ships/T3's get and with most battlecruiser fits it means smaller guns or a weaker tank, but in general typically ends up botching your fit. In most instances it's simply not worth it; I am however excited to see Command Ships have a purpose again (aside from sitting in POSs).
Anyone have a link to where this is any kind of development for even SiSi- saying it was brought up in CSM minutes doesn't make it a 'thing' and CCP/CSM have been kicking this around for literally 5 years. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
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Dan Carter Murray
99
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:58:00 -
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Yuri Intaki wrote:I foreseee lots of people unsubbing as their supposed reputation rested solely on their double link alts and in actual fact they are pretty damn terrible players.
yeah a certain someone is butthurt about the poster in the FW album regarding this exactly
Herping yourDerp wrote:don't ganglinks go in the highslots? i feel like any dedicated ship to links will be trash in every thing ( except tank and oh hey giving boosts) might as well put warp stabs on it.
utility high on every BC. i.e. hurricane has 2. you can still fight just fine. if you want 3 links then have 3 of your BCs put a link in. most of the time you really only need 1 or 2 of the links instead of the whole shabang that offgrid links have. |
Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1044
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:01:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:utility high on every BC. i.e. hurricane has 2. you can still fight just fine. if you want 3 links then have 3 of your BCs put a link in. most of the time you really only need 1 or 2 of the links instead of the whole shabang that offgrid links have.
Still doesn't close the native ship bonuses that Command Ships and their Tech 3 counterparts have. 3 and 5% nautral and a mindlink for boosting versus an unbonused battlecruiser with a single link are completely different worlds. However, if they reverted the boost bonus to 5% for Command ships, and 3% for the Tech 3, I for one would enjoy seeing Claymores/Damnations out and about in fleets again.
If this goes through- I will finally be able to do something with that Claymore BPO that's been collecting dust for the past year or so. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
268
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:03:00 -
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Xolve wrote:The boost is marginal without the effectiveness bonus that Command Ships/T3's get.. Yeah, who in their right mind would ever want to settle for a 33% range increase on webs/points when he knows its possible to get 42%!!!! Difference that 2-3%/level makes it not all that .. just sayin'
Xolve wrote:.. and with most battlecruiser fits it means smaller guns or a weaker tank, but in general typically ends up botching your fit. In most instances it's simply not worth it... [Hurricane, Prove Him Wrong] Damage Control II 3x Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I 2x Large Shield Extender II Faint Warp Disruptor I
6x 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers II
Now I know it is not kosher to use the Hurricane with auto's as they are going to be nerfed fitting wise SoonGäó, but the sacrifices are really not that grave. Without checking the others I'd say you may have to use a single CPU lowslot on most of them.
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Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1044
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:25:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote: you may have to use a single CPU lowslot on most of them.
And sadly, that is against everything I believe in.
Fitting mods are the devil (and your fit is bad). Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
196
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:38:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote: you may have to use a single CPU lowslot on most of them. And sadly, that is against everything I believe in. Fitting mods are the devil (and your fit is bad).
Xolve my man. I think you are missing the point here (the point being different than the original threads point admittedly).
1-Battlecruisers can fit into majors and be a tad bit more of an option to use in FW engagements. Especially with the lower skilled pilots. 2-Ofcourse Command ships and tech 3's can do it better.
Another thing is generally someone fitting links to a BC will have to sacrifice something or another to make his fleet better.
Not arguing just saying.
Back to rage fits over ppl being able to use boosters with little to no risk at all. |
Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1044
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:52:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote: 1-Battlecruisers can fit into majors and be a tad bit more of an option to use in FW engagements. Especially with the lower skilled pilots. 2-Ofcourse Command ships and tech 3's can do it better.
Nah- I'm more of the opinion that bad pilots with links are terrible pilots without links. This whole argument is pretty silly, since there hasn't been any official discourse about it from CCP and it's literally just a bunch of people speculating at changes. I would say that if it's removed, the return of Damnations and Claymores to the front lines will be fun; say what you want about them, removing them from the field takes a bit of work and I will finally have a reason to have trained Command Ships V.
If OGB were to get nerfed, I'd would be pretty okay with it, a well lead and prepared fleet shouldn't have problems dealing with links at all; and if it's too much of a problem go find something else to shoot at. When all else fails- use Falcons. Given the way that other non-combat links work (Orca/Rorq), I don't see CCP removing them from the game.
EVE isn't fair. End of story.
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
410
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Posted - 2012.08.27 08:19:00 -
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I must say, it is impressive how OP the Incursus is with an off-grid Legion/Loki combo. The same goes for a T2 plated Maller with remote reps from an Execquror/other Mallers, as experienced in a Outpost on the weekend. Busting that tank these days is a herculean task for a kitchen sink fleet.
I'll give the Amarr guys this much - they certainly have some nice Legion boosters. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
145
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:31:00 -
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Xolve wrote:X Gallentius wrote:CCP Yttr said that off grid boosts should be removed from game in the CSM minutes. Then posts. I look forward to the next time you flip **** for losing a comet to an Incursus... Dan Carter Murray wrote:is everyone aware about the battlecruiser 99% reduction in cpu for warfare links? cheaper than tech 3s and they fit in majors! The boost is marginal without the effectiveness bonus that Command Ships/T3's get and with most battlecruiser fits it means smaller guns or a weaker tank, but in general typically ends up botching your fit. In most instances it's simply not worth it; I am however excited to see Command Ships have a purpose again (aside from sitting in POSs). Anyone have a link to where this is any kind of development for even SiSi- saying it was brought up in CSM minutes doesn't make it a 'thing' and CCP/CSM have been kicking this around for literally 5 years.
actually not ... the diference is mindlink .... i was boosting for very long time just with drakes + maxed skills + skirmish mindlink IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
501
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Posted - 2012.08.27 13:16:00 -
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As far as downsides...The "notes" feature on characters will be decidedly less useful now that I don't have to label boosting alts to know which systems to avoid. |
Katalci
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
126
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:33:00 -
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Great content in the OP, would read again! |
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