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Space Jew Sandwitch
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:25:00 -
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EVE is so old it is impossible to get even close to older players. Not like a couple years ago when it was eerm 20, 30, even 50m. Now the SP spread is nearing 150m.
Now in WOW since the game has been out for a while they made the leveling faster and came out with a booster add on which guides you all the way to 85 in like 10 days.
EVE should triple the learning speed until 45m skill points.
There is also the problem of there not being that much to spend skill points on at 150m. So EVE should introduce new ships and skills. There's been like 5 different typed in 8 years? Whatever, some ridiculously low number.
EVE needs a Booster like WoW and then an Expansion
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Frau Klaps
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:29:00 -
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so misguided, GTFO |
RiskyFrisky
Under the Table Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:32:00 -
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No. Training is fast enough, SP stops being important for certain ships past certain points. Just because they have mor SP than you doesn't mean they're going to win.
No. |
Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:32:00 -
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It's been said many times before: No. |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:33:00 -
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Skill points don't matter. They allow you to do more stuff, but do not make you immune to noobs. The first thing to realize is when you see someone from 2003, 2004, 2005 etc don't freeze. They've been around longer than you have but that doesn't mean they are good at combat just depends what they've been doing all these years.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: mechtech on 01/02/2011 21:34:13
Quote: EVE needs a Booster like WoW and then an Expansion
Stuff like this marginalizes a game. Eve is a much more complex universe than a typical run of the mill fantasy MMO like WoW, this would be a terrible thing to do to eve. In most MMOs, new content comes out once every year or 2, you usually have to pay for it, and it usually nullifies and eclipses all of the old content that was released. Then to top it off, they introduce a "booster" to let players simply skip right past the old game and grind away at the new stuff. It's a maddening cycle, and it makes you feel like a hamster in a wheel.
Eve has a few features that make this not only undesirable, but not even necessary in the least. First off content is rarely totally invalidated in eve. You still need tacklers, BCs aren't as powerful as command ships, but they're cheaper and still useful to players of every level. Also, you can specialize. In most MMOs a lvl 50 kills a lvl 35 every time. In eve it's fairly easy to basically max out a ship class with focused training and compete with the old players right away.
Lastly, characters, as with everything in eve, are simply an asset. You're never totally held back by skillpoints. If you play a lot and become successful, buy a high SP character. Letting people "boost" training to 45m is akin to throwing isk at people and making the game easier.
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Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:33:00 -
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To be fair, once people hit a high number of SP they may also stop PVPing as much as the cost of clones becomes ridiculous. |
Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:34:00 -
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I think you need to have a talk with Aceites, the Hero Rifter Pilot of Test Alliance Please Ignore.
A 3 day old character can have a meaningful impact in this game.
If you stopped complaining about always being behind, maybe you would realize that. |
Not Bovvered
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:34:00 -
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I want's wot he's got and I don't wanna work for it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:36:00 -
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àexcept, of course, that SP gaps don't particularly matter all that much. They are not "levels" and having more does not make you untouchable by those who have less.
These two facts alone make any comparison with the "catch up" mechanics in WoW completely nonsensical.
That, and the fact that "catching up" is a nonsensical notion in EVE to begin with. |
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Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Aessoroz on 01/02/2011 21:42:25
Originally by: Magnus Orin I think you need to have a talk with Aceites, the Hero Rifter Pilot of Test Alliance Please Ignore.
A 3 day old character can have a meaningful impact in this game.
If you stopped complaining about always being behind, maybe you would realize that.
Or just GoonSwarm/TEST alliance in general from their beginnings. When my main was in Dreddit a few months ago, they calculated using everyone's API that the average SP was somewhere less than 10mil, well look at what that 10mil is doing, it's taking over space like a mofo. |
Berikath
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Posted - 2011.02.01 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Space Jew Sandwitch EVE is so old it is impossible to get even close to older players. Not like a couple years ago when it was eerm 20, 30, even 50m. Now the SP spread is nearing 150m.
Quote: There is also the problem of there not being that much to spend skill points on at 150m.
So:
1. It's impossible for new players to get even close to older players, with their 150 million SPs. New players kant kompete!
2. Players with 150 mil SPs don't really have anything left to train (which would be useful), so their new SPs are generally just fluff.
1 and 2 are mutually exclusive. If much of anything over 100m SPs is fluff that people won't really use, then in several years when new characters get to 100m SPs they will be competing... exactly equally with older players, 'cuz the older players will just have the same stuff they do now, but all 4 racial titans to V. |
Draken Darksun
Havoc Violence and Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:15:00 -
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Quote: EVE needs a Booster like WoW and then an Expansion
Quote: like WoW
5/10 troll just because of all the replies. |
Tellatubby
Liberal Frontier Enterprises Violent Entity
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Space Jew Sandwitch WoW
Get out. |
Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:20:00 -
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150mil SP are useless. You cannot fly 3 different carriers and 2 T2 cruisers at the same time. Such SP amount just means you are more versatile. New players don't need to be versatile since they don't really know any aspect of the game. |
Gibbeous Moon
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech Edited by: mechtech on 01/02/2011 21:34:13 Stuff like this marginalizes a game. Eve is a much more complex universe than a typical run of the mill fantasy MMO like WoW, this would be a terrible thing to do to eve. In most MMOs, new content comes out once every year or 2, you usually have to pay for it, and it usually nullifies and eclipses all of the old content that was released.
I agree wholeheartedly. It was this that destroyed EverQuest. Once it was a great little game and then it just exploded and it lost its plot. |
Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:39:00 -
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1) You can only apply a limited portion of your SPs at any given time. Which ones depend upon the ship you have boarded. 2) The way you fit your ship is FAR more important than the number of SPs you have. All the SPs in the world won't save you if you have a failfit. 3) Training a skill from nothing to level 4 happens MUCH FASTER than going from level 4 to level 5 (It takes roughly twice as long to train from 4-5 than it does to train from 0-4. Thus the older a player is, the less value they get out of each SP they train.) 4) It has been demonstrated time, and time again that player skill and cunning is far more important than straight out SP. Buying a high SP toon is a very good way to humiliate yourself in PvP. |
Flesh Slurper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:52:00 -
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Not supported. If you want to play WoW, then go play wow. Power leveling has always been lame and even more so when developers make it easier. Also, if you specialize at first, you can easily be as good as a vet in that ship type/profession in no time. Your perceived idea that you can't "catch up" is flawed. |
Astenion
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:54:00 -
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Eve Booster: Eve for Socialists. |
Realityfirst
Minmatar Burnin' Sky
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Posted - 2011.02.01 22:54:00 -
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Eve is designed in such a way, that no matter how great or few your skill points, you can still be affective in game. Unlike WOW. |
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Zurtur
Minmatar Muppet Factory
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:35:00 -
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2/10 at best... -
Sig and banner designs! |
Rafael Freeman
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:44:00 -
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10/10 for correct grammar use.
/10 for everything else
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NOOB PWNER69
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:46:00 -
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I agree. EVE Online should be more like World of Warcraft.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:47:00 -
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Everybody needs a busom for a pillow, everybody needs a busom.
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Grog Barrel
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:47:00 -
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dwng bro, TITANS FOR ALL!
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Macaya
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Space Jew Sandwitch EVE is so old it is impossible to get even close to older players. Not like a couple years ago when it was eerm 20, 30, even 50m. Now the SP spread is nearing 150m.
Now in WOW since the game has been out for a while they made the leveling faster and came out with a booster add on which guides you all the way to 85 in like 10 days.
EVE should triple the learning speed until 45m skill points.
There is also the problem of there not being that much to spend skill points on at 150m. So EVE should introduce new ships and skills. There's been like 5 different typed in 8 years? Whatever, some ridiculously low number.
EVE needs a Booster like WoW and then an Expansion
Would you like some cheese with your Whine
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Nascha Stardancer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:53:00 -
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I agree with all the nos. We dont need this game dumbed down for the dimwits... not saying the OP is a dimwit... but thats what WoW did. And now the game is 100% more boring than it was during the last two expansions.
Also Ive been around for like three years on and off... but that doesnt mean I have billions of SP.
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:56:00 -
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Any one thinks like you need to boost the SP because people been playing this game 7 years and had over150mil is ******ed. It's funny now I see new player coming into this game and starting to think things should be less effort and shouldn't have to put time into it because it isn't fun... GTFO out of EVE then and stop trying to make it like WOW FFS good example Jump bridges! made people soft and easy to live in 0.0 because of these. Most of all the north
yes I am mad
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:57:00 -
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OP plz go back to playing WoW kktnxbb
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Hai Boiz
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Posted - 2011.02.02 00:03:00 -
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I think, Miss Sandwich, that with a little makeup and a quick styling you would be quite attractive.
You would then find less need to troll as people would be naturally interested in you as an object of desire. Wouldn't that be better than being hated on?
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