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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:41:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Obama is a professional politician who had almost no record when he took office, and hasn't done much to establish himself since. His biggest "achievement" is the medical reforms that conveniently don't really start until after the election...so he can claim victory on the passing without having to face the repercussions of any failures of the plan. He's the epitome of politics for the sake of politics, and I fully expect him to simply pander to his voters and attempt to secure his legacy rather than doing what is best for America.
Romney is a fair-weather conservative looking to appeal to "the base" after years as one of the most liberal Republicans around. He's so obviously playing a part that I don't believe a word he says, and his disconnect with the problems of the poor and middle class make it hard to trust him to consider the not-rich majority in his economic policies.
We're in for four more years of politics as usual, no matter who we choose. True, also, a GOP president would have made the same decisions as Obama in regards to the bailouts, stimulus, etc..
The real problem is the GOP has decided to be the "party of No!" and shut down the legislative branch. The whole reason for having 400+ congressmen, 100 senators, 9 supreme court justices and a president is to ensure that people compromise when getting things done. Instead the current GOP has this my way or the highway approach to democracy, which isn't working and is going to bite them on the arse in the future.
As for Romney, I actually feel sorry for him. RomneyCare appears to be working in Massachusetts, making it potentially one of his greatest achievements, and he's being forced to disown it by his own party. And yeah, the "some of my best friends own NASCAR teams" was the nail in the coffin for the middle class, IMO.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Dos Naari
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:43:00 -
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I'll vote when someone runs on the platform of complete decriminalization of cannabis, and the reappropriation of the military budget towards domestic healthcare and education. Until then I don't see how any intelligent individual can look at all this paint by numbers spin the wheel of issues politiking with a straight face, much less support it, with their more or less symbolic vote. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
799
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:43:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I bet you voted Palin in 2008.
You betcha. |
stoicfaux
1469
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:43:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Generals4 wrote:Torothin wrote:Especially if you love families pumping out welfare babies, not having to work at all, and living off of tax payers hard earned money!
ROMNEY 2012!!! I'll bait. Yeah vote for the gay hating, women hating unpatriotic nutbag who hides his money in tax havens. But he has magic underwear+3! Yes, but the Tea Party is making him wear a Jockstrap of Devouring instead...
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1872
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:45:00 -
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Avrila Inyante wrote:1) ever heard of "the lesser of two evils?" Sure neither ones a good choice, but one MAY **** us over while the other already has.
"Lesser" is exactly the adjective that applies to both. It pairs well with "mediocre" too.
Avrila Inyante wrote: 2) am I the only one who gets annoyed when europeans comment on American politics in an obnoxious, superior and condescending way?!? I'm legit not trying to troll here, but seriously.... What makes you have all the answers about our country, while we are apparently a bunch of bumbling idiots? Last I checked, Europe was just as corrupt, only instead of the government taking 30 percent of your paycheck they take like 70... Fix your own **** before telling us how to fix ours.
Sheesh I needed to say that
I don't know how many EU states even have a true democratic government. Not on mine for sure, we cannot even vote who we want in the parliament, it's just lobbysts and mafia-puppets concerting the next disaster.
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Maddie Gunslinger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:46:00 -
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I hope Romney wins, USA hasn't had a complete moron at the helm for a few years now.
What? No... |
Selinate
958
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:47:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I bet you voted Palin in 2008.
You betcha.
I don't get it... at least Obama can make complete sentences and articulate what he believes in.
Palin actually is a slobbering idiot that McCain only brought onto the ticket because she's a conservative woman. Other than that, he might as well have picked a door knob since her political views consisted of "I'M CONSERVATIVE AND THAT'S WHAT'S RIGHT FOR MOM'S", and didn't go much further than that other than managing to show her stupidity dozens of times just by opening her mouth.... |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:50:00 -
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Maddie Gunslinger wrote:I hope Romney wins, USA hasn't had a complete moron at the helm for a few years now.
Romney's far from a moron. He'll be as capable a president as Obama...which isn't saying much. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
799
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:59:00 -
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Selinate wrote:
I don't get it... at least Obama can make complete sentences and articulate what he believes in.
Palin actually is a slobbering idiot ...
You've clearly never seen Obama try to talk without his teleprompter.
That said, I'll take verbally clumbsy realist over a teleprompted master orator communist any day. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:05:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Romney is just as bad as Obama, but for other reasons.
You Yanks are gonna have a rough 4 years ahead of you irregardless of the outcome.
No doubt. I'm ready to go dig up Abe Lincoln, even dead he could do a damn sight better than either candidate. Added bonus of presiding over a fractured nation, so this wouldn't even be a problem for him.
God help US. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
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Sentamon
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:10:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Romney is just as bad as Obama, but for other reasons.
You Yanks are gonna have a rough 4 years ahead of you irregardless of the outcome. No doubt. I'm ready to go dig up Abe Lincoln, even dead he could do a damn sight better than either candidate. Added bonus of presiding over a fractured nation, so this wouldn't even be a problem for him. God help US.
ya Abe the Butcher was a great at fixing a divided nation ... 650,000 dead. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Selinate
958
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:15:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:
You've clearly never seen Obama try to talk without his teleprompter.
That said, I'll take verbally clumbsy realist over a teleprompted master orator communist any day.
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Witness what is wrong with our political system people when there's actually a large amount of people who actually think this way... He's also pretty damn good at speaking without a teleprompter... |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
365
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:19:00 -
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From a European standpoint, the whole US is in my opinion, nothing more than a 3rd world nation, where the so called 'democracy' is being fed propaganda until your eyes bleed, fake promisses and choosing the lesser of two evils, with no option whatsoever for any realistic change in this.
Lobbyists of large corporations vie for passing laws for themselves, and sue anything that gets in their way to death, while News media say this is all 'ok' because it's for the good of the country and the average citizen, while on the other hand actual basic civil and human rights are being abolished to 'combat the enemy', or simply ignored and swept under the rug. And anybody lokoing under said rug is labelled a traitor and hounded across the world.
Meanwhile, for well over a decade and a half, all main crises that the world has faced all originated in the US. Mortgage, oil, you name it. Several of them can even be pointed directly at american institutions that litterally abuse every thing they can in the name of greed, steamrolling over anything in their way, putting more money and power in the hands of the rich elite, while tearing up what is left of the middle and lower classes means of support and livelyhood.
Yes.. such a great country is the US.. Just be glad I don't consider violence an option to solve problems.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
170
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:22:00 -
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It must be Monday. They say that in learning the game Go, it is best to lose your first 50 games as soon as possible. This is because Go is complex, and the only way you will start to get an idea of strategy and play is by first sucking and failing as hard as you can. So...In EVE, it is best to get your first 50 deaths by combat as soon as possible. |
stoicfaux
1469
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:26:00 -
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edit: Deleted. Too snarky even for me.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
535
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:30:00 -
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The United States of America, an experiment in democracy.
Well you stuffed that one up good and proper, at least it can now be known as "The United States of America, a failed experiment in democracy."
Maybe now we don't have to hear about how other countries need to follow their example. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
440
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:31:00 -
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Torothin wrote:Especially if you love families pumping out welfare babies, not having to work at all, and living off of tax payers hard earned money!
ROMNEY 2012!!!
Please keep your moronic views out of Eve forums. You want fries with that? |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
800
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:33:00 -
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Selinate wrote: He's also pretty damn good at speaking without a teleprompter...
Maybe, if you consider speech to be studdering and the tiresome repetition of "uhhhhh." |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
440
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:33:00 -
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Torothin wrote:I smell a communist in this thread....
No sir, you smell BS, yours. You want fries with that? |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
440
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:36:00 -
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Torothin wrote:This is eve general chat. This upcoming election has a significant impact on the economy which in turn will affect eve subscriptions. In no way shape or form am I trolling. I'm trying to have a debate.
Basemant dwellers vote? You want fries with that? |
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Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
27
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:39:00 -
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I live in a country full of idiots. |
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:39:00 -
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There have been much worse electoral choices in the history of American presidential elections. At least this year you can choose between two intellectual candidates.
Healthcare vs Darwinism, religious lobbyist parties, Fox's fair and unbiased reporting. Sounds like a pretty entertaining circus to me. " Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "
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Jim Era
Genco Fatal Ascension
968
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:42:00 -
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lol politics |
ashley Eoner
45
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:44:00 -
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1/10
You almost hit all the ****** talking points.. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
518
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:44:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:Selinate wrote: He's also pretty damn good at speaking without a teleprompter... Maybe, if you consider speech to be studdering and the tiresome repetition of "uhhhhh."
Without a teleprompter, he has this tendency to accidentally tell the truth about what he believes.
"You didn't build that" "clinging bitterly to their religion and their guns" "Spread the wealth around"
Teleprompters are how his handlers keep him on message. "Sir, just read what you see on the screen. They'll buy it, trust us......"
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luZk
x13
65
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:45:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxroiTRg7Tg |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
528
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:47:00 -
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Jaison Savrin wrote:I live in a country full of idiots.
in a land of retards the idiot is king! Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Theron Urian
The Moirae Syndicate
10
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:49:00 -
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Xearal wrote:From a European standpoint, the whole US is in my opinion, nothing more than a 3rd world nation, where the so called 'democracy' is being fed propaganda until your eyes bleed, fake promisses and choosing the lesser of two evils, with no option whatsoever for any realistic change in this.
Lobbyists of large corporations vie for passing laws for themselves, and sue anything that gets in their way to death, while News media say this is all 'ok' because it's for the good of the country and the average citizen, while on the other hand actual basic civil and human rights are being abolished to 'combat the enemy', or simply ignored and swept under the rug. And anybody lokoing under said rug is labelled a traitor and hounded across the world.
Meanwhile, for well over a decade and a half, all main crises that the world has faced all originated in the US. Mortgage, oil, you name it. Several of them can even be pointed directly at american institutions that litterally abuse every thing they can in the name of greed, steamrolling over anything in their way, putting more money and power in the hands of the rich elite, while tearing up what is left of the middle and lower classes means of support and livelyhood.
Yes.. such a great country is the US.. Just be glad I don't consider violence an option to solve problems.
So easy to point out the flaws of others but never look at your self huh? You find a major government that is lacking in the corruption and bull **** department and I will send you all of my money.
And that last line...I don't even know what to say about that. You make it sound as if you want to be violent towards Americans. To bad most of our national debt goes toward military spending. Not to mention that we allow our citizens to own fire arms. |
ashley Eoner
45
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:52:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:Selinate wrote: He's also pretty damn good at speaking without a teleprompter... Maybe, if you consider speech to be studdering and the tiresome repetition of "uhhhhh." Without a teleprompter, he has this tendency to accidentally tell the truth about what he believes. "You didn't build that" "clinging bitterly to their religion and their guns" "Spread the wealth around" Teleprompters are how his handlers keep him on message. "Sir, just read what you see on the screen. They'll buy it, trust us......" talking points talking points reality be damned.. Not an original thought in this post.
You know just like the last time congressional Republicans invited Obama over for a talk... |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
800
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:53:00 -
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Adalun Dey wrote:
Healthcare vs Darwinism,
You poor naive Obama voter. You still think Obamacare gives people healthcare.
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't doubt for a minute that our closet communist president would love to have a single payer system with total government domination over our healthcare.
But Obamacare ceased being about what Hugobama really wanted and became a victory-at-all-costs once the polical debate started. So now, the government can force you, by threat of fines and possible imprisonment, into a contract with a private healthcare corporation. Yes, one of those evil corporations that lefties hate so much. You now have to deal with them.
Oh, and even better. If you want premium healthcare coverage - you know, something that covers more than what the government says is the bare minimum - you now get taxed for having healthcare that is too good.
Oh boy, what a victory for healthcare Obamacare is! |
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