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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 10:51:00 -
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The Charles Ponzi School of Business Completely Uncollateralized, Unaudited, Very Complex, But Actually Not Fraudulent Investment System is a system of investments that are designed uniquely be Win-Win-Win for investors, the manager, and customers. And by "Win", I mean "Make Tons of Money". And by "Make Tons of Money" I mean "4%".
This is the second of the bonds issued. Hence the title "Bond #2".
I know that's enough for some of you, but for the rest, continue reading in this thread. The terms are the same, except this bond has a fixed rate of 4%. Also I answered some questions over here.
Long story short I received more interest in making goon loans than I expected, and I undersized my first bond, since I didn't think that MD would be all that receptive to the concept.
Current portfolio: 1) 500m in Coonfleet shares (50 shares @ 10m a share), est dividends of ~7%/month, irregularly paid 2) 2 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon K) @ 10%/month interest, 1 month duration. 3) 2.5 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon R) @ 10%/month interest, 4 month duration. 4) Cash: 100m.
tl;dr I'm selling bonds that I'm going to be reinvesting in Goonswarm investments that you people just don't have access to. Each bond is worth 100 Million isk, and will receive an interest payment once a month. Probably on or about the 15th of every month. I can call your bond at any time. You'll get paid the interest for that month in full if I do.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.02.14 10:59:00 -
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I don't see the amount of this bond anywhere.
Does this mean you let go of the idea of only doing a 1B expansion and does it also mean this has no maximum investment?
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys I don't see the amount of this bond anywhere.
Does this mean you let go of the idea of only doing a 1B expansion and does it also mean this has no maximum investment?
Actually, I didn't really put a number on it, and I don't think I ever said 1b. Sorry if you thought so.
Honestly I'm expecting about a ton of flames for doing this so quickly after the last bond, so I want to keep the option to "move the goalpost" and save face if I get an underwhelming demand. That's why I didn't put down a maximum.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: flakeys on 14/02/2011 11:05:41
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: flakeys I don't see the amount of this bond anywhere.
Does this mean you let go of the idea of only doing a 1B expansion and does it also mean this has no maximum investment?
Actually, I didn't really put a number on it, and I don't think I ever said 1b. Sorry if you thought so.
Honestly I'm expecting about a ton of flames for doing this so quickly after the last bond, so I want to keep the option to "move the goalpost" and save face if I get an underwhelming demand. That's why I didn't put down a maximum.
You are right i need a reading comprehension book soontm.Would you be willing to make a max investment to this and also ask your previous investors if they feel comfortable with the max amount you choose ?
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
You are right i need a reading comprehension book soontm.Would you be willing to make a max investment to this and also ask your previous investors if they feel comfortable with the max amount you choose ?
I'm really never going to say "PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME MORE MONEY AT 4%".
That being said, I'd have to work at making more than 20-25b in loans in the next two weeks (which I'd need to do to have interest coming in for the payment on the next 15th), so to keep this low effort, I'd stop there.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: flakeys
You are right i need a reading comprehension book soontm.Would you be willing to make a max investment to this and also ask your previous investors if they feel comfortable with the max amount you choose ?
I'm really never going to say "PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME MORE MONEY AT 4%".
That being said, I'd have to work at making more than 20-25b in loans in the next two weeks (which I'd need to do to have interest coming in for the payment on the next 15th), so to keep this low effort, I'd stop there.
Fair and honest , but with a high cap on max investment i would like to withdraw my previous offer i made this morning in your other thread.
Still , good luck on this.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Fair and honest , but with a high cap on max investment i would like to withdraw my previous offer i made this morning in your other thread.
Still , good luck on this.
Fair enough. The odds of even getting close to that cap are quite long.
Perhaps if all of MD scurries from this offer like Cockroaches from the light we could work something out.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: flakeys
Fair and honest , but with a high cap on max investment i would like to withdraw my previous offer i made this morning in your other thread.
Still , good luck on this.
Fair enough. The odds of even getting close to that cap are quite long.
Perhaps if all of MD scurries from this offer like Cockroaches from the light we could work something out.
If there appears no appeal what so ever to invest from others then sure.
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Tergum Vigilo
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:00:00 -
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Ill take a block of 100m. Dividends will be sent to Electus Ereptor pending continuation of your Bad Bobby clause for this bond.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tergum Vigilo Ill take a block of 100m. Dividends will be sent to Electus Ereptor pending continuation of your Bad Bobby clause for this bond.
As should be obvious to you kalrand , this is the person who used the character lethal entrepeneur to recently scam.He's just trying to get some extra attention as we know all the small time scammers allways do , hell might as well call him General Newbold .
I wanted to point this out in case it was not clear yet.If you take his offer or not is fully up to you offcourse.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Tergum Vigilo Ill take a block of 100m. Dividends will be sent to Electus Ereptor pending continuation of your Bad Bobby clause for this bond.
As should be obvious to you kalrand , this is the person who used the character lethal entrepeneur to recently scam.He's just trying to get some extra attention as we know all the small time scammers allways do , hell might as well call him General Newbold .
I wanted to point this out in case it was not clear yet.If you take his offer or not is fully up to you offcourse.
Yea, I'm well aware of who he is.
My policy is "I don't care where or how you got your money." You can be Bad Bobby, IT alliance, or karttoon, and I'm not going to play internet space sheriff and get all vigilante with their investment.
I think the 100m offer is genuine, and yes, to get attention.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Tergum Vigilo Ill take a block of 100m. Dividends will be sent to Electus Ereptor pending continuation of your Bad Bobby clause for this bond.
As should be obvious to you kalrand , this is the person who used the character lethal entrepeneur to recently scam.He's just trying to get some extra attention as we know all the small time scammers allways do , hell might as well call him General Newbold .
I wanted to point this out in case it was not clear yet.If you take his offer or not is fully up to you offcourse.
Yea, I'm well aware of who he is.
My policy is "I don't care where or how you got your money." You can be Bad Bobby, IT alliance, or karttoon, and I'm not going to play internet space sheriff and get all vigilante with their investment.
I think the 100m offer is genuine, and yes, to get attention.
Sad, because I think you'd look real cute in a cowboy hat with a nice gold badge Saying "SHERRIF" ..
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Caldariftw123
Sad, because I think you'd look real cute in a cowboy hat with a nice gold badge Saying "SHERRIF" ..
I try not to bring that weekend up in public...
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Tergum Vigilo Ill take a block of 100m. Dividends will be sent to Electus Ereptor pending continuation of your Bad Bobby clause for this bond.
As should be obvious to you kalrand , this is the person who used the character lethal entrepeneur to recently scam.He's just trying to get some extra attention as we know all the small time scammers allways do , hell might as well call him General Newbold .
I wanted to point this out in case it was not clear yet.If you take his offer or not is fully up to you offcourse.
Yea, I'm well aware of who he is.
My policy is "I don't care where or how you got your money." You can be Bad Bobby, IT alliance, or karttoon, and I'm not going to play internet space sheriff and get all vigilante with their investment.
I think the 100m offer is genuine, and yes, to get attention.
The goood thing from this probably will be people will not invest because of this then the fact you are a goon 
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Kalrand
Yea, I'm well aware of who he is.
My policy is "I don't care where or how you got your money." You can be Bad Bobby, IT alliance, or karttoon, and I'm not going to play internet space sheriff and get all vigilante with their investment.
I think the 100m offer is genuine, and yes, to get attention.
The goood thing from this probably will be people will not invest because of this then the fact you are a goon 
That too. And someone will realize that "Bernie Ebbers" is my alt, and someone one else will point out that the CPSoB in the title stands for Charles Ponzi School of Business, etc etc.
My offers throw off more red flags than a communist marching band.
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:44:00 -
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So, I don't remember if this was covered in the first bond, but... audit?

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GreasyCarl Semah
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Posted - 2011.02.14 21:05:00 -
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I am disappointed in the name of this bond offering and am afraid that I cannot invest at this time, good sir.
However, I will be interested in any offering that has the words "**** investors in the mouth" in the name.
Good day
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane So, I don't remember if this was covered in the first bond, but... audit?

It'd need to be another goon, since "Kalrand" has a bunch of permissions in Goonswarm that can't be public.
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Florestan Bronstein
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Posted - 2011.02.14 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane So, I don't remember if this was covered in the first bond, but... audit?

It'd need to be another goon, since "Kalrand" has a bunch of permissions in Goonswarm that can't be public.
Can't you get The Mittani to audit you and post his report here? 
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.14 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane So, I don't remember if this was covered in the first bond, but... audit?

Why backpeddling? weren't offering to underwrite the bond in another Thread?
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 14/02/2011 22:37:51
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane So, I don't remember if this was covered in the first bond, but... audit?

Why backpeddling? weren't you offering to underwrite the bond in another Thread?
I don't think he was serious about the auditor here, but I do think other people might share that concern, so I answered it like it was serious.
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Two Shots
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: GreasyCarl Semah I am disappointed in the name of this bond offering and am afraid that I cannot invest at this time, good sir.
However, I will be interested in any offering that has the words "**** investors in the mouth" in the name.
Good day
I almost made a new thread titled "**** Investors In the Mouth Bond Offering". Almost.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.15 02:21:00 -
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I'm just going to remind people that this is actually a totally serious, overly optimistic, very early, but actually serious expansion offer.
And is still valid.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.15 02:28:00 -
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Give me a few days, I might have some ISK to toss your way. Depends on how fast I get paid.
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.15 05:40:00 -
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shoe me in for 2b
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Companion Qube
Minmatar Electron Conservation Inc
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Posted - 2011.02.15 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots
Originally by: GreasyCarl Semah I am disappointed in the name of this bond offering and am afraid that I cannot invest at this time, good sir.
However, I will be interested in any offering that has the words "**** investors in the mouth" in the name.
Good day
I almost made a new thread titled "**** Investors In the Mouth Bond Offering". Almost.
See, if you engage in MD rep grinding you can do these things unironically and be congratulated for it. Welcome to thee internetspacebuxonline metagame.
drunkpoasting best poasting |

Fred Freedom
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.15 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Companion Qube
Originally by: Two Shots
Originally by: GreasyCarl Semah I am disappointed in the name of this bond offering and am afraid that I cannot invest at this time, good sir.
However, I will be interested in any offering that has the words "**** investors in the mouth" in the name.
Good day
I almost made a new thread titled "**** Investors In the Mouth Bond Offering". Almost.
See, if you engage in MD rep grinding you can do these things unironically and be congratulated for it. Welcome to thee internetspacebuxonline metagame.
What if we're also grinding rep ironically?
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Two Shots
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.15 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Companion Qube
Originally by: Two Shots
Originally by: GreasyCarl Semah I am disappointed in the name of this bond offering and am afraid that I cannot invest at this time, good sir.
However, I will be interested in any offering that has the words "**** investors in the mouth" in the name.
Good day
I almost made a new thread titled "**** Investors In the Mouth Bond Offering". Almost.
See, if you engage in MD rep grinding you can do these things unironically and be congratulated for it. Welcome to thee internetspacebuxonline metagame.
Tell me about the EVE metagame :allears:
Two Shots Goonwaffe |

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.02.15 22:00:00 -
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I'll still offer to, as somebody else put it, underwrite this. I think I'd have to limit my own liability on that to about 10b though.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.15 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane I'll still offer to, as somebody else put it, underwrite this. I think I'd have to limit my own liability on that to about 10b though.
But why should anyone trust your investment techniques? you were recently scammed investing in a similar un-audited, rapid expansion Bond. Your creditability as an underwriter is shady to say the least. (i.e. you have made bad choices in the past & by the looks of the above quoted post, you continue to make bad choices)
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