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Inquisitor K'han Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.02.17 09:22:00 - [1] Just put together a new poster as part of our ongoing poster campaign, happy to say the last one worked very well. Not sure where we will place this one but do look out for it as you fly around. Khan Long live the fighters
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.	Posted - 2011.02.17 10:03:00 - [2] .... You know-- very ... moving, and all, but I can't help thinking (you know, being as we're officially enemies and so on) ... ... "Please, yes, please do bring more large knives to fight our puny guns with."
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.17 10:29:00 - [3] I see that the Republic's proudest supporters continue to uphold the Minmatar traditions of bloodthirsty violence and unwarranted brutality. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Marus Sulla Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.02.17 11:12:00 - [4] Originally by: Rodj Blake I see that the Republic's proudest supporters continue to uphold the Minmatar traditions of bloodthirsty violence and unwarranted brutality. Amen. Testify brother. Oh Wait. Unwarranted? "The Minmatars are the most numerous of all the races in the world of EVE, but their vast numbers are divided into many factions. While the Minmatar Republic is the official state, only a quarter of all Minmatars are part of it. The largest proportion, almost a third, are enslaved within the huge Amarr Empire."
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.17 11:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Marus Sulla Originally by: Rodj Blake I see that the Republic's proudest supporters continue to uphold the Minmatar traditions of bloodthirsty violence and unwarranted brutality. Amen. Testify brother. Oh Wait. Unwarranted? "The Minmatars are the most numerous of all the races in the world of EVE, but their vast numbers are divided into many factions. While the Minmatar Republic is the official state, only a quarter of all Minmatars are part of it. The largest proportion, almost a third, are enslaved within the huge Amarr Empire." Does that really warrant so much violence when the Empire has a noble history of eventually releasing slaves? Just look at the fate of the Udorians and the Ni-Kunni. Once they were slaves but now they have been elevated to a more civilised status than their origins would have allowed them. And it doesn't end there! Just a year or two back, many Minmatar slaves were peacefully emancipated. Violence won't advance the agenda of those who dislike slavery, but peaceful dialogue might. However, the natural state of Minmatars is one of unrestrained anger. They just can't help themselves when it comes to violence. That's one reason why they need our help. It's true that a third of Minmatars are still being enlightened by Amarrians, but to all you anti-slavery types I repeat the words of an ancient philosopher: two out of three ain't bad. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:02:00 - [6] You can not fight with too much violence against the crime of slavery. For slavery is the most violent crime to imagine. With a third of our kind still under the shackles this is more than justified. Let them pay in blood, sister. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Marus Sulla Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:03:00 - [7] Edited by: Marus Sulla on 17/02/2011 12:07:24 Apologies Rodj. You are quite right. Those of us opposed to slavery should just wait for the Empire to release our kin. In their own time. Possibly. In the future. I'll raise it at the next meeting of the Masuat'aa. I'll probably be laughed out of the room. At best. To the OP, one of my senior crew members has expressed an interest in meeting this fine example of Minmatar warrior. She's become quite popular among the fleet I hear.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:18:00 - [8] Your inability to even understand that a peaceful solution might exist simply proves my point. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Chinwe Rhei Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:28:00 - [9] I appreciate the positive message, but i can't help but wonder how practical those boots are in hand to hand combat .
Marus Sulla Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:28:00 - [10] Edited by: Marus Sulla on 17/02/2011 12:33:15 As solution presupposes a problem. You would agree then Rodj that the continuing existence of slavery is, in fact, a problem? Apologies to the OP for turning this into the usual U'K v PIE merry-go-round. I can't help myself with Rodj. He brings out the devil in me I shall of course be replicating the poster and making sure it's seen around a few local stations.

Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:32:00 - [11] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 17/02/2011 12:33:23 Originally by: Marus Sulla As solution presupposes a problem. You would agree then Rodj that the continuing existence of slavery is, in fact, a problem? It certainly seems to be a problem for you, but I suspect that even if there was no slavery a lot of Minmatars would come up with some other excuse for violence. So ultimately, the problem is the violent nature of unenlightened Minmatars. Slavery is one solution to that problem, but others may exist. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Marus Sulla Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:37:00 - [12] Ahhhh if only we were obedient, little Minmatar. How unfortunate for us we must be to be so brutish...and free. You are a slave yourself Rodj, if only you could see it.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:42:00 - [13] Originally by: Marus Sulla Ahhhh if only we were obedient, little Minmatar. How unfortunate for us we must be to be so brutish...and free. You are a slave yourself Rodj, if only you could see it. We are all slaves. It's just that I'm a slave to God's righteousness rather than to emotion. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:53:00 - [14] Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 17/02/2011 13:05:40 But the footwear is not very practical. And also while this nice bellybutton is looking quite sexy I wonder how it reacts to a load of buckshot rounds that are fired on center mass. Yeah, okay, sexy. But I'd fight in armored boots and at least a vest. But she has a fine spirit for a warrior. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.02.17 13:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Rodj Blake Your inability to even understand that a peaceful solution might exist A peaceful solution does exist. It starts with the Empire. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Marenteius Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:07:00 - [16] First off, real nice poster. I may not be a big fan of the TLF, but i can appreciate good propoganda when i see it. Second off, i gotta wonder why UK and PIE members even bother trying to sort the whole "you enslave a third of my race, prepare to die!!" thing peacefully... i mean, we're Capsuleers for crying out loud. War is practically our lifeblood! Besides which, do either of you actually think a peaceful solution exists as long as the Amarrians remain zelots? I don't. Finally, Andreus, you said a peaceful solution starts with the Empire.... what? you didn't seem to finish your sentence... -------------- Who are you? What do you want? Where are you going? Why are you here?
Sinjin Mokk Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:39:00 - [17] I believe Andreus was going to say that by working with the Empire, we can all work towards a galaxy filled with peace and prosperity. The Republic patterns itself after a democratic model where the majority rules. Yet when a majority of their people accept the leadership of the Empire, well, thatÆs not good enough for the Elders. Perhaps there is a hidden wisdom in Admiral BlakeÆs words? Instead of subjugation, should the Empire (after removing the rot that calls itself Elders) seek reunification? Khanid maintains an autonomous existence, yet we are a part of the greater whole of the Empire. Could Minmatar eventually follow the same path? Could that be a path to peaceful co-existence? Ohàand get that girl a sweater or something. Those stations can get cold. Serving the Dark Amarr
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:50:00 - [18] Originally by: Sinjin Mokk I believe Andreus was going to say that by working with the Empire, we can all work towards a galaxy filled with peace and prosperity. The Republic patterns itself after a democratic model where the majority rules. Yet when a majority of their people accept the leadership of the Empire, well, thatÆs not good enough for the Elders. Perhaps there is a hidden wisdom in Admiral BlakeÆs words? Instead of subjugation, should the Empire (after removing the rot that calls itself Elders) seek reunification? Khanid maintains an autonomous existence, yet we are a part of the greater whole of the Empire. Could Minmatar eventually follow the same path? Could that be a path to peaceful co-existence? Ohàand get that girl a sweater or something. Those stations can get cold. The Empire was more than happy for the Ammatar Mandate to have autonomy, so there's no reason why a similar deal couldn't be brokered with the Republic. There would of course have to be certain safeguards put in place to stop thme betraying the Empire though. I'm sure that an Amarrian viceroy would be a less tyrannical ruler than Shakor. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Sinjin Mokk I believe Andreus was going to say "** you, you presumptuous Khanid sucker, don't pretend for a single moment that you have either the right or the call to put words into my mouth, you self-righteous nonce" Originally by:** Sinjin Mokk that by working with the Empire, we can all work towards a galaxy filled with peace and prosperity. No, in fact, the exact opposite is very clearly true - the less influence, power and mere existence the Empire has, the more happy the cluster will be. This is pretty much an objective fact. The major contributions the Empire has made to the cluster are: - One successful genocide - Several attempted genocides - The destruction of a peaceful, technologically advanced society - The Blood Raider Covenant - Sansha's Nation - Vastly increased Jovian xenophobia Your track record is awful. Originally by: Sinjin Mokk Yet when a majority of their people accept the leadership of the Empire, well, thatÆs not good enough for the Elders. A third is not a majority, and those held under forcible duress cannot by any sane measure be said to have "accepted" the "leadership" of the Empire. Sinjin, I used to curse the existence of all Amarrian loyalists, but nowadays, you are actually useful to our cause, in that you make Amarrians in general look ridiculous. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Fei Lai Amarr	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:53:00 - [20] Originally by: Rodj Blake We are all slaves. This seems to be the part outsiders have trouble with. Everyone in Amarr is a slave, it's just that the Minmatar are the only ones whining about it. Your poster does a fine job glamorizing the fight. If you train your warriors to fight as effectively as they pose, you might really succeed in reclaiming your fellow Minmatar to live a life of poverty and bitter resentment in your little republic. Good luck. I like the blood, though. Add some more and it'll be perfect!

Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:11:00 - [21] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 17/02/2011 17:13:42 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris The major contributions the Empire has made to the cluster are: - One successful genocide - Several attempted genocides - The destruction of a peaceful, technologically advanced society - The Blood Raider Covenant - Sansha's Nation - Vastly increased Jovian xenophobia Your track record is awful. As are your lies. Really now Andreus, the Empire has consistently opposed both the Blood Raiders and the Sansha, and you know it. And I suspect that you're deliberately confusing genocide with police actions and compulsory cultural realignments. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Shintoko Akahoshi Kabuki TransSolar	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:49:00 - [22] Originally by: Fei Lai Everyone in Amarr is a slave Not everyone, just most... My question about the poster involves the slim, beweaponed Minmatart. Where does she hide the spray paint she used for the graffiti? Shin's bio and writings
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:53:00 - [23] Originally by: Rodj Blake As are your lies. Really now Andreus, the Empire has consistently opposed both the Blood Raiders and the Sansha, and you know it. "Lie" in the Amarrian language seems to mean "a truth that we're uncomfortable with". Whether or not you opposed them, the Amarr Empire produced both of them. And actually, you didn't consistently oppose the Sansha. You were, in fact, allies with them, quite literally up until the very split second where it became unfashionable and politically awkward to be so. Originally by: Rodj Blake And I suspect that you're deliberately confusing genocide with police actions and compulsory cultural realignments. No - in fact, genocide is usually done under the guise of something that sounds... well, less unpleasant than "we're going to completely erase a culture/ethnic group". Genocide is defined as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". The cold-blooded extermination of the entire Starkmanir tribe - on their own homeworld, no less - was, from the perspective of genocide, a success unmatched in all the known history of New Eden. It utterly erased their unique tribal culture, and apart from the few survivors dutifully protected by the loyalists among the Nefantar, it has erased nearly all of their bloodline. Genocide was, of course, also attempted with the other tribes, admittedly with less direct methods and to varying but universally lower degrees of success. Certainly various cultural traditions among each tribe have been lost, perhaps forever, and the Amarr were as thorough as to even attempt to wipe out Minmatar cuisine, as evidenced by the fact that an entire corporation - Native Freshfood - has sprung up around simply restoring Minmatar cookbooks. Perhaps the most unforgivable sin among unforgivable sins perpetrated the Amarrian scum, however, was the destruction of Minmatar scientific research. The Minmatar were - and archeology bears this out, despite impotent Amarrian lies to the contrary - a technologically advanced race, being easily capable of interplanetary travel and, with some effort interstellar travel - not very impressive by today's standards, but given the competition at the time, not too shabby. They had also established a small interstellar empire, and when the Amarrians arrived, they were on the brink of understanding the way in which the ancient acceleration gates worked. Whereas today we can merely duplicate the technology without really having any real understanding of how it works, the Minmatar Empire was on the cusp of unlocking the potential of the device, improvising and improving upon it and making their own innovations based on it. Then the Amarrians came and in one fell swoop destroyed it all. Far from being barbaric, the Minmatar were comparitively peaceful, having no way to strike back against the utterly unprovoked Amarrian aggression. In the aftermath of the cowardly invasion, the Amarr destroyed much Minmatar technology and research. This, of course, is the most craven act that human beings can possibly commit - destroying progress. More than lives, more than possessions or dwellings, you destroyed advancement. Betterment. Tearing apart the Minmatar Empire was not just a crime against the Minmatar - it was a crime against all humanity. By destroying their technology, you stole a little bit of hope from the universe. Nothing was gained by it, and yet all men suffered from it. The Empire proved itself utterly craven, utterly without merit. You are every bit as bad as the monsters in Nation which you helped create. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Fei Lai Amarr	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi Not everyone, just most... My question about the poster involves the slim, beweaponed Minmatart. Where does she hide the spray paint she used for the graffiti? You're right of course, just an observation on my part on the Amarrian point of view. Good question, too. could this be some new secret weapon in the Minmatar arsenal? Concealable lipstick sized graffiti cans? Be ever wary of this new threat...
Lorna Doone Hell's Cheerleaders	Posted - 2011.02.17 19:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Rodj Blake Just look at the fate of the Udorians and the Ni-Kunni. Once they were slaves but now they have been elevated to a more civilised status than their origins would have allowed them. Oh, good grief, Rodj. Are you still peddling that line of crap, even after all these years? --------------------------------------------------------------- "Meantime, all around me is violence and robbery, coarse delight and savage pain, reckless joke and hopeless death."
Shintoko Akahoshi Kabuki TransSolar	Posted - 2011.02.17 19:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Fei Lai (Could) this be some new secret weapon in the Minmatar arsenal? Concealable lipstick sized graffiti cans? Be ever wary of this new threat... I honestly can't see where the girl in question could carry a lipstick, either... Shin's bio and writings
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2011.02.17 21:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi Originally by: Fei Lai (Could) this be some new secret weapon in the Minmatar arsenal? Concealable lipstick sized graffiti cans? Be ever wary of this new threat... I honestly can't see where the girl in question could carry a lipstick, either... \| I can think of one place.
Calathea Sata	Posted - 2011.02.17 22:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi Originally by: Fei Lai (Could) this be some new secret weapon in the Minmatar arsenal? Concealable lipstick sized graffiti cans? Be ever wary of this new threat... I honestly can't see where the girl in question could carry a lipstick, either... \| I can think of one place. Oh...
Fei Lai Amarr	Posted - 2011.02.17 22:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu \| I can think of one place. Of course you can. I never doubted you.
Shintoko Akahoshi Kabuki TransSolar	Posted - 2011.02.17 23:50:00 - [30] And now we can provide a more amusing variant of the caption, reflecting on one more thing that Kire has done for the Republic today... Shin's bio and writings



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