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Daray II
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.02.17 15:57:00 -
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My cousin and I were talking and we think EVE should consider making markets race specific where only that specific race can buy and sell items. This would take load off Jita, and promote the other trade hubs also allowing courier and trade contracts to be more prevalent. Currently, there isn't enough focus on being a courier or trade expert, especially in high-sec space because the profits are too low and opportunities are few and far between and I believe this change could fix that.
For example, if I was as Minmatar player, which currently probably only constitutes around 10% of the Eve Online player base, my market would be potentially very small. But, if I could request a courier contract from one of the other markets, I could then fulfill my needs, and potentially corner the market for my race in buying and selling specific needed items.
Say I noticed a need for lots of Caldari Navy Missiles for Minmatar ships that people put missle launchers on (don't ask me why...lol) then I would request a courier contract from the market for the missiles, and someone interested in delivering them (most likely a Caldari player) would take the contract, and meet me somewhere for delivery. I would then move them back to the Minmatar trade hub where I could sell them to other Minmatar players.
You could lock down all racial stations in high security space so you can only buy and sell based on your race. This lock down would not apply to direct player-to-player transfers, nor to low and null sec space.
I think it could be a fun twist on the current market, and something that has worked well on other MMO's.
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Wurzel Gummidge
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:24:00 -
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I blame your cousin for this appalling idea, I truly do.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:25:00 -
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No, there are enough Caldari in game already, we don't need Eve to be 99% Caldari. You are creating problems, not solving them.
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Tiffis
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Wurzel Gummidge I blame your cousin for this appalling idea, I truly do.
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Cory Sopapilla
Minmatar Kiroshi Group
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:27:00 -
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A single auction house for Orcs, a single auction house for Humans, and one out in the middle of nowhere that nobody used that could be between races. Um, I hated that with a passion. There was no market per-say.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:35:00 -
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-1/10 really what is wrong with jita ... nice and friendly , place where you know you can find everything --
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Bjron
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:44:00 -
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I have never been to Jita.
True story.
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Ger Tomard
Caldari Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:44:00 -
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Item warping would fix this better, any item bought in station in the constellations is instantaneous delivered to your hangar floor. boom, problem fixed.
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Xylengra
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:46:00 -
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I think this idea is born of the union of two close cousins, if you know what I mean.
To the OP, why on earth would someone in Caldari space give you a contract to haul those items when they could do it themselves? If there were profit in the transaction, they would just get their Minnie alt to do the shipping.
As someone above said, you would be creating problems, not solving one.
Someone wiser than I would deem this a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:28:00 -
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Limiting a trade hub it to a particular race is bad.
Your idea of placing Jita orders remotely and having the goods couriered to you is already in the game: a) create Jita alt b) login with Jita alt and buy stuff c) contact Red Frog freight and setup a contract to have your goods delivered to your main. d) ??? e) Profit!
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:34:00 -
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Best thing for Jita, load up a suicide BS and go play at 4-4 lol
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Daray II
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:34:00 -
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This whole idea stems from the understanding that Jita is too concentrated and it would be better if the market was spread out more to other areas of space. If it makes sense to have other trade hubs, then how do we force people to use them? That was the question we were trying to solve.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Daray II This whole idea stems from the understanding that Jita is too concentrated and it would be better if the market was spread out more to other areas of space. If it makes sense to have other trade hubs, then how do we force people to use them? That was the question we were trying to solve.
It does not make sense to have other trade hubs, and you don't force people to use them. Every station undock should be turned towards the direction of Jita to bask in its holy light.
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Ikserak tai
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:45:00 -
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Disabling free trade between Empire factions would be a giant step backward.
The current system most likely evolved from what you suggest, and during peace merchants, industrialists, and players revel in unencumbered travel between systems as it promotes commerce and the exchange of ideas, culture, sex positions blah, blah, blah.
Political tensions would have to be ratcheted up to restrict travel between the various Empire factions. This might be an Eve of the future but the effect on the overall economy would be extremely negative, if not catastrophic.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 17/02/2011 17:47:47 see above for my answer of how to make ppl use the other hubs :) If it was too dangerous to use 4-4 ppl would go elsewhere
why is it ppl hate jita anyways?
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Lt Angus
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:49:00 -
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anyone going to see justin bieber in 3D, im soo excited
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Daray II This whole idea stems from the understanding that Jita is too concentrated and it would be better if the market was spread out more to other areas of space. If it makes sense to have other trade hubs, then how do we force people to use them? That was the question we were trying to solve.
Why does it make sense to have other trade hubs? Seriously, list the reasons.
The benefits to a single trade hub are: a) everything is there which implies b) one stop shopping, (simplified logistics,) and c) competition, d) only one market alt needed, e) and consolidated infrastructure (lots of manufacturing stations and freight routes)
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Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:58:00 -
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OP I want you to go find your cousin and punch him in the crotch as hard as you can. Then tell him to stop putting dumb ideas in your head.
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sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:59:00 -
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there is other hubs already they just not as big as jita but don;t think everyone travels to jita everytime they want to shop do you?
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.02.17 18:08:00 -
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i think you and your cousin are not destined to be brilliant game designers, i'm afraid
everyone would still stick to jita, they'd just be forced to use market alts, which would make it extremely annoying to do anything
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.17 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 17/02/2011 18:12:41 why is jita a problem again?
An I like the idea of suicide bombing jita lol
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.02.17 18:17:00 -
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Nobody is forcing sheep to go to Jita to trade.
If you really wanted people to go else where, reinforce a different system and choke off Jita. If people cant get in they cant trade if they cant trade.... THEY WONT.
That isnt CCP's goal, instead of telling people "Too bad, go trade elsewhere" they made it so more people can go to Jita. Another case of CCP making high sec more cozy. Enjoy.
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Ikserak tai
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Posted - 2011.02.17 19:16:00 -
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To further burst the bubble:
Quote: "Currently, there isn't enough focus on being a courier or trade expert, especially in high-sec space because the profits are too low and opportunities are few and far between and I believe this change could fix that." Unquote.
Auxiliary Parts: Jita price: 2000k ea Rens price: 800Isk or less. Actually, much less, as I bought everything less, and a thousand at 800.
Amarr, Tash-Murkon, Kador, the Citadel all had prices on Auxiliary Parts ranging from 1400Isk to 7000+.
Jita is no guarantee of getting the lowest price on everything, so non-Jita trade hubs can be very valuable to the discriminating and savvy merchant/industrialist.
To think that "profits are too low and opportunities are few and far between" is an assumption that, under a bit of scrutiny, is not valid.
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Fat Willy
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Posted - 2011.02.17 19:57:00 -
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I regularly trade in Rens, Amarr or Dodoxie, depending on which base my character is operating from. Even if you end up paying a little more (and that is only occasionally), it saves time and therefore money compared to hauling your *ss over to Jita.
I reckon there are more people trading in Rens, Amarr and Dixie combined, than are in Jita. So more trading in regional hubs outside Jita than in it.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.18 04:57:00 -
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Why is Jita a bad thing? lol noone is answering me >.<
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THERisingPHOENIX
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.18 08:41:00 -
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The system (Muvolailen) next to Jita was under incursion today. Was close, yet so far. :(
OP: Why Jita? Jita seems fine to be atm : /
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Hakkar'al Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.18 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Daray II then how do we force people to use them?
Forum **** get a completely new meaning.
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Mette Vuns
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Posted - 2011.02.18 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: THERisingPHOENIX The system (Muvolailen) next to Jita was under incursion today. Was close, yet so far. :(
Something tells me that Jita will never suffer an incursion.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.18 10:21:00 -
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.02.18 10:21:00 -
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Bad idea.
I also believe use Minmatar are more than 10% of the playerbase.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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