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Musashi IV
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Musashi IV on 20/02/2011 13:11:01 Edited by: Musashi IV on 20/02/2011 13:06:46 You tried to kill my Mac yesterday and failed. Your ships were killed by concord and you got nothing. Even if you killed my ship you still get nothing. I figured the cost for each ship was a min 2 mil and the smartbombs cost another 5 to 8 mil. You waisted 10 mil each when you could have put that isk to good use. What you did do is give the creaters of hulkwhatever more isk for your new ship. These players created hulkwhatever to sell thier ships and equipment they produce for inflated price's. I even purchased ships for a low price just to sell to you for an inflated price. Even if you kill my mac I still make isk so keep killing and being killed.
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Organic Peanut Butter
Caldari Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Organic Peanut Butter on 20/02/2011 13:08:25 I preferred the internet when trolls were original
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Musashi IV
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Organic Peanut Butter Edited by: Organic Peanut Butter on 20/02/2011 13:08:25 I preferred the internet when trolls were original
me troll? im just concerned for my fellow players.
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Mina Banestar
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:12:00 -
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and your point is???
something you dont seem to grasp is that most people participating in hulkageddon are doing it for one reason....because its fun. No-one cares about making a profit or about specifically killing Musashi IV in his mackinaw.
Try it yourself sometime, you might find you enjoy it
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Musashi IV
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mina Banestar and your point is???
something you dont seem to grasp is that most people participating in hulkageddon are doing it for one reason....because its fun. No-one cares about making a profit or about specifically killing Musashi IV in his mackinaw.
Try it yourself sometime, you might find you enjoy it
I enjoy making isk. I would try to kill ships that would make me isk not lose it!
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Dahghda
Meatshield Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:28:00 -
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To some people, ISK are what you spend to have fun.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:30:00 -
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If it were true that this was a bunch of industrialists seeking to eliminate competition and boost the value of their own sales, woudn't that be awesome anyway? I don't see the problem. It's the kind of stuff that was alluded to on the back of the retail box back in 03. The main selling point of Eve is exactly this sort of event. If you can't appreciate that, I can't understand why you'd play it. --
Originally by: Brian Ballsack please learn to use english if your gonna post
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Musashi IV
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar If it were true that this was a bunch of industrialists seeking to eliminate competition and boost the value of their own sales, woudn't that be awesome anyway? I don't see the problem. It's the kind of stuff that was alluded to on the back of the retail box back in 03. The main selling point of Eve is exactly this sort of event. If you can't appreciate that, I can't understand why you'd play it.
I have more fun writing these threads and reading the response's I get from players like you. May you live long and prosper!
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Me Gusta
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:38:00 -
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Just for that i'm gonna find you in a geddon and smartbomb you just for the lulz, ah the joys of being rich.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dahghda To some people, ISK are what you spend to have fun.
Pretty much this.
You pay IRL money to play EVE while others may find it not worth it the $. Some people pay in-game money to have fun popping Hulks while others may find it not worth it their ISK.
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Musashi IV Edited by: Musashi IV on 20/02/2011 13:11:01 Edited by: Musashi IV on 20/02/2011 13:06:46 You tried to kill my Mac yesterday and failed. Your ships were killed by concord and you got nothing. Even if you killed my ship you still get nothing.
Ironic that you started off with "you don't get it"...
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Dani Nardieu
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:11:00 -
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If the Hulkaggedon killboard published losses as well as victories for everyone involved a lot of the mystique of the event would be very quickly dispelled.
I for one would be jumping in my seat with joy if i killed several cruisers with an empty Iterion or a Battleship in a mining barge. It's all in how you look at it, but yes, a lot of ganks actually fail and you'll never see those anywhere. I witnessed yesterday 1 battleship, 2 battlecruisers and a couple of destroyers fail to kill a single machariel in an ice belt (there were about 10 of them mining). I don't know how that's possible but it happened...
If anyone else involved in PvP but the Hulaggedon gangs excused their bad k/d ratio in both isk and numbers with a "but we fun burning our isk lol" execuse they'd still be laughed at for being horrible.
Not to mention if their losses are equal or greater to those of the miners then that simply means it's profitable to mine during hulkaggedon due to demand for ships and modules.
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Darth McDarth
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dani Nardieu If the Hulkaggedon killboard published losses as well as victories for everyone involved a lot of the mystique of the event would be very quickly dispelled.
I for one would be jumping in my seat with joy if i killed several cruisers with an empty Iterion or a Battleship in a mining barge. It's all in how you look at it, but yes, a lot of ganks actually fail and you'll never see those anywhere. I witnessed yesterday 1 battleship, 2 battlecruisers and a couple of destroyers fail to kill a single machariel in an ice belt (there were about 10 of them mining). I don't know how that's possible but it happened...
If anyone else involved in PvP but the Hulaggedon gangs excused their bad k/d ratio in both isk and numbers with a "but we fun burning our isk lol" execuse they'd still be laughed at for being horrible.
Not to mention if their losses are equal or greater to those of the miners then that simply means it's profitable to mine during hulkaggedon due to demand for ships and modules.
First of all ganking a Mach != Hulkageddon
And Hulkageddon isn't about the ISK at all. PVPers who care about K/D and isk ratios don't suicide their ships. We do. I go into every gank knowing as soon as I turn on my guns I'll be down 10 mill.
Hulkageddon is about blowing a bunch of ISK to have fun, and perhaps more importantly, to teach a lesson. That HISEC IS NOT SAFE. Oh, and the tears. Those are pretty good too.
And I kinda hope its profitable to mine during Hulkageddon. Those poor(non-botter) miners make little enough as it is.
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Musashi IV
Originally by: Organic Peanut Butter Edited by: Organic Peanut Butter on 20/02/2011 13:08:25 I preferred the internet when trolls were original
me troll? im just concerned for my fellow players.
There is no altruism. You troll.
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Marchocias
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Musashi IV You waisted 10 mil each when you could have put that isk to good use.
To many people, 10 million isk is worth it just to see you posting like a crybaby. ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it). |
Kryssare
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Posted - 2011.02.20 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Marchocias
Originally by: Musashi IV You waisted 10 mil each when you could have put that isk to good use.
To many people, 10 million isk is worth it just to see you posting like a crybaby.
To many people, 10 million isk is barley worth calling money. But i guess you wouldnt know since you're a miner.
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Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.20 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Musashi IV ...when you could have put that isk to good use.
But.... It WAS put to good use
ISK is a tool to reach your goals, not a goal in itself! Without being used to have fun, ISK is meaningless...
The guy who doesn't get it is staring straight back at you from the mirror
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.02.20 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kryssare
Originally by: Marchocias
Originally by: Musashi IV You waisted 10 mil each when you could have put that isk to good use.
To many people, 10 million isk is worth it just to see you posting like a crybaby.
To many people, 10 million isk is barley worth calling money. But i guess you wouldnt know since you're a miner.
You all missed the point of this thread.
The Gankageddon griefers FAILED. Musashi IV, gratz. That's excellent news.
Those who say it's being done for lol's and not for ISK, you must have failed to take a good look at the prizes being offered. And don't even try the ole 'It's a way to get rid of Botters'. That excuse died a long time ago.
The OP wasn't being a crybaby. It's sad how you people always try to twist things around and try to make yourselves look superior.
I know plenty of Miners who dual box with Hulk and Orca that make a lot of ISK mining in high security Grav sites. Those who say there's no isk in mining have no clue since it makes way more ISK per hour than the usual PvP action.
Don't even bother with the flames, my career is Exploration, not Mining. But I do love reading about Failed gank attempts, especially when the intended victims are Mining ships that survive.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.02.20 16:24:00 -
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Im curious, based on all the hate on miners, If they all left the game, who would make your ships to pew pew in?
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Jokerface666
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.20 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Musashi IV Edited by: Musashi IV on 20/02/2011 13:11:01 Edited by: Musashi IV on 20/02/2011 13:06:46 You tried to kill my Mac yesterday and failed. Your ships were killed by concord and you got nothing. Even if you killed my ship you still get nothing. I figured the cost for each ship was a min 2 mil and the smartbombs cost another 5 to 8 mil. You waisted 10 mil each when you could have put that isk to good use. What you did do is give the creaters of hulkwhatever more isk for your new ship. These players created hulkwhatever to sell thier ships and equipment they produce for inflated price's. I even purchased ships for a low price just to sell to you for an inflated price. Even if you kill my mac I still make isk so keep killing and being killed.
TBH i've got 45 fittet hulkgankships ready.... 600 Mil, who cares? ^^ w00t w00t wtfpwnage train |
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Xylengra
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Posted - 2011.02.20 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sullen Skoung Im curious, based on all the hate on miners, If they all left the game, who would make your ships to pew pew in?
That's just it - it won't ever happen.
Every hardcore PvPer/pirate has an isk-making alt, even the ones that claim they do not, and those industrialists aren't going to leave the game, or quit selling ships, or quit mining, or whatever they do to make that isk.
I think the miner-hate is just another way to make those spewing it feel superior, as someone stated above.
All that said, I have no problem with Hulkageddon-ing. I understand (and agree with) the rationale that blowing 500-600 mill on gank ships, and bottoming out your sec status, can be a fun and refreshing break from the boredom that Eve certainly can be. It truly is a sandbox and I am COMPLETELY against any form of built-in game mechanic that protects one player class over another. Like myself, I believe most players are multipurposed (perhaps over different characters and/or accounts), so that things like Hulkageddons and wardecs don't have to interfere with what you can do in the game.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.02.20 16:41:00 -
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Op and other miners dont get it do you. Everyone of those kills that hulk or barge was AFK. This is the communities way of saying we hate macroers. But people still insist on running their scripts and are still mining. Everything killed other than barges is just a bonus for lulz.
Also, most hulkageddon pilots are billionaires and have salvage alts near by ready to salvage the wrecks. Did you know hulks can drop up to 3 of the T2 armor plates which sell for 25 mill each?
oh and smartbombs dont cost 5-8 mill. especially when you can run 1 lvl 4 and get a full rack after most missions.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.02.20 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sullen Skoung Im curious, based on all the hate on miners, If they all left the game, who would make your ships to pew pew in?
sometimes I mine a bit. I even have a hulk and an orca to help out on mining ops every now and then ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2011.02.20 16:59:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us |
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Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sullen Skoung ... all the hate on miners ...
You got it completely wrong! We don't hate miners... We just love EVE! The EVE economy (which also the miners benefit from) lives off destruction.
Destruction is good! Without destruction, no need for minerals! Without minerals, no need for miners!
See this for a perfect explanation....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Millie Clode
Amarr Insert Cool Name Here
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sullen Skoung Im curious, based on all the hate on miners, If they all left the game, who would make your ships to pew pew in?
For the 9001th time, industrialists with more than two functioning neurons know that sitting in an asteroid belt in a gold-painted bathtub for hours on end is a stupidly inefficient way to procure minerals. If all those poor oppressed highsec miners ragequit the game it would affect nothing, proper industrialists would still be getting their minerals from drone goo and reprocessed mission loot. ---------- Who, me? |
Allaera
Caldari Avatar Dynasty Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Allaera on 20/02/2011 17:48:08 You know, it never ceases to amaze me how often these bloody whining carebears think that that suiciding their Hulks and whatnot is all about isk.
I mean seriously, how can you put a monetary value on pure lolz?
So, go ahead and take away my insurance if destroyed committing a criminal act, I'll still be doing it regardless.
Edit: I failz at da spellingz
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Traxaur
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Posted - 2011.02.20 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dani Nardieu If the Hulkaggedon killboard published losses as well as victories for everyone involved a lot of the mystique of the event would be very quickly dispelled.
I for one would be jumping in my seat with joy if i killed several cruisers with an empty Iterion or a Battleship in a mining barge. It's all in how you look at it, but yes, a lot of ganks actually fail and you'll never see those anywhere. I witnessed yesterday 1 battleship, 2 battlecruisers and a couple of destroyers fail to kill a single machariel in an ice belt (there were about 10 of them mining). I don't know how that's possible but it happened...
If anyone else involved in PvP but the Hulaggedon gangs excused their bad k/d ratio in both isk and numbers with a "but we fun burning our isk lol" execuse they'd still be laughed at for being horrible.
Not to mention if their losses are equal or greater to those of the miners then that simply means it's profitable to mine during hulkaggedon due to demand for ships and modules.
Fail more please, Thing is most fail ganks aren't that expensive, and I honestly doubt your story itself you probably got ganked and want to feel better so you'll make up an "epic fail" gank story its something failbears like yourself do to comfort themselves when the "mean hulkaggeddon pilots" come and blow up your precious Indy/Ore ship.
an avg hulkageddon gank ship costs no more than 4mil (you make more than that doing a decent lvl 3 not including salvage) a hulk costing 194mil getting killed in exchange for a net loss of 10-12mil is more than worth it, not to mention all the failbear tears you and your other failbears send out in hatemails/hate convos keep up the QQ and keep up the stories.
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.02.20 19:10:00 -
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Giving Musashi IV's name to locator agent
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.20 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Serge Bastana on 20/02/2011 19:29:06
Originally by: Sullen Skoung Im curious, based on all the hate on miners, If they all left the game, who would make your ships to pew pew in?
I'll enlighten you, oh clueless one, a lot of pvp players have industrial alts. You aren't as inexpandable as you like to think you are. I have an alt that builds my ships for me. ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people! |
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