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CaptainFalcon07
Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:53:00 -
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Does CCP really expect DUST to become a success as a console shooter when player have to pay real money to get better items, is only on the Playstation 3, has fairly little market hype, and competes with the more popular Battlefield and Call of Duty series?
I can say this, they must be out of their mind if they think so. I expect DUST to only last a few months in popularity at most, then players will leave it behind to pick up the next best console shooter.
Whatever DUST will by, I'm not going to be playing or buying it since I don't have a PS3. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:55:00 -
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This is rumor thread as there is no question mark on the topic. THis isn't related EvE either so... in before lock or move to oope. *waves* Forum fix for firefox and chrome Get working images and colored text Classic forum style 2.25final |
KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:58:00 -
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If you think Dust is "just another console shooter" then you don't know much about Dust.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:59:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote: THis isn't related EvE either so... in before lock or move to oope. *waves*
Since Dust will be "linked" to Eve online as CCP has stated numerous times, means that it is Eve related so fits in the right section. It would be very biased to take action against this thread since there has been numerous thread discussing DUST on this forum.
However the OP is a couple months late to the Dust will fail party.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:01:00 -
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CaptainFalcon07 wrote:Does CCP really expect DUST to become a success as a console shooter when player have to pay real money to get better items, is only on the Playstation 3, has fairly little market hype, and competes with the more popular Battlefield and Call of Duty series?
I can say this, they must be out of their mind if they think so. I expect DUST to only last a few months in popularity at most, then players will leave it behind to pick up the next best console shooter.
Whatever DUST will by, I'm not going to be playing or buying it since I don't have a PS3.
The door is that way ---------->
Don't let it hit you in the mouth on the way out. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:01:00 -
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CaptainFalcon07 wrote:Does Bungie really expect Halo Combat evolved to become a success as a console shooter when player have to buy a new console to play it, is only on the X-box, has fairly little market hype, and competes with the more popular Battlefield and Call of Duty series?
I can say this, they must be out of their mind if they think so. I expect Halo Combat Evolved to only last a few months in popularity at most, then players will leave it behind to pick up the next best console shooter.
Whatever Halo Combat Evolved will by, I'm not going to be playing or buying it since I don't have a X-box.
Indeed. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:01:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote: However the OP is a couple months late to the Dust will fail party.
Pretty much... seems like another pissed xbox owner. Forum fix for firefox and chrome Get working images and colored text Classic forum style 2.25final |
CaptainFalcon07
Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:02:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote: However the OP is a couple months late to the Dust will fail party.
Pretty much... seems like another pissed xbox owner.
Nah just a pissed off PC gamer. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:03:00 -
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CaptainFalcon07 wrote:GǪand competes with the more popular Battlefield and Call of Duty series? No. It competes with PS2.
Also, what you'll be paying for is unknown at the moment. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:11:00 -
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CaptainFalcon07 wrote:Does Bungie really expect Halo Combat evolved to become a success as a console shooter when player have to buy a new console to play it, is only on the X-box, has fairly little market hype, and competes with the more popular Battlefield and Call of Duty series?
I can say this, they must be out of their mind if they think so. I expect Halo Combat Evolved to only last a few months in popularity at most, then players will leave it behind to pick up the next best console shooter.
Whatever Halo Combat Evolved will by, I'm not going to be playing or buying it since I don't have a X-box.
Very Indeed, considering it was supposed to have been an RTS.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:15:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:CaptainFalcon07 wrote:Does Bungie really expect Halo Combat evolved to become a success as a console shooter when player have to buy a new console to play it, is only on the X-box, has fairly little market hype, and competes with the more popular Battlefield and Call of Duty series?
I can say this, they must be out of their mind if they think so. I expect Halo Combat Evolved to only last a few months in popularity at most, then players will leave it behind to pick up the next best console shooter.
Whatever Halo Combat Evolved will by, I'm not going to be playing or buying it since I don't have a X-box. Very Indeed, considering it was supposed to have been an RTS. GǪand Marathon is still better to this day.
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:17:00 -
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lol @ people who still think DUST *won't* fail. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:19:00 -
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So you say you can see in the future... not. You just trolling. |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:21:00 -
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While you still have the crystal ball out can you check next week's lottery numbers for me? Thanks. |
Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:28:00 -
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KaarBaak wrote: If you think Dust is "just another console shooter" then you don't know much about Dust.
To your typical console player, it will be "just another shooter"...I'm guessing 90% of them won't give a flying **** about EVE Online honestly. I have mentioned it to a bunch of console gamers and their eyes just glaze over and ask "but will there be n00b t00bs and prone?" |
Kunming
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:33:00 -
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KaarBaak wrote: If you think Dust is "just another console shooter" then you don't know much about Dust.
Tell that to the average console gamer:
A: There is this shooter, where you can influence a persistent world through your actions..
B: Why would I care about a persistent world when all I wanna do is shoot stuff and lvl up?!
The "dream" of DUST, CCP has, is great, unfortunately the players coming to DUST will probably have never heard of EVE, and wont really care about the "butterfly effect", the majority will leave as they came because they WILL think exactly "just another console shooter".
CCP should have made a PC version just for safety IMO. Also I dont get the arguement of broadening the customer base. I mean they are k with selling us space-barbie and astro-rectum for stupid prices but when we say we are interested in paying for the EVE-shooter they develop, no, u have to buy a toy-computer in which u are not interested in at all (aka console)...
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:34:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:So you say you can see in the future... not. You just trolling. Anybody who's not a mouthbreathing idiot can see the future when it comes to Dust. A console shooter (a market that is glutted with titles) exclusive to the console with the smallest audience is doomed to fail.
Also, console kiddies in Eve lol The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:36:00 -
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Kunming wrote:KaarBaak wrote: If you think Dust is "just another console shooter" then you don't know much about Dust.
Tell that to the average console gamer: A: There is this shooter, where you can influence a persistent world through your actions.. B: Why would I care about a persistent world when all I wanna do is shoot stuff and lvl up?! The "dream" of DUST, CCP has, is great, unfortunately the players coming to DUST will probably have never heard of EVE, and wont really care about the "butterfly effect", the majority will leave as they came because they WILL think exactly "just another console shooter". CCP should have made a PC version just for safety IMO. Also I dont get the arguement of broadening the customer base. I mean they are k with selling us space-barbie and astro-rectum for stupid prices but when we say we are interested in paying for the EVE-shooter they develop, no, u have to buy a toy-computer in which u are not interested in at all (aka console)...
Dunno most shooter players Ive talked too are just full of giddy happiness that rivals a missile full of sunshine when I tell them that battles in dust have pernament concequences or results making every fight meaningful its like having single player outcomes on a multiplayer platter. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:36:00 -
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I hope CCP have the common sense to have already started the PC port for Dust, so that they can release it the microsecond their exclusivity agreement with Sony expires. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Takamori Maruyama
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:36:00 -
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ITT: consolelol The Codex Astartes guides us....*someone poke and whisper something* Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?! |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:42:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Anybody who's not a mouthbreathing idiot can see the future when it comes to Dust. A console shooter (a market that is glutted with titles) exclusive to the console with the smallest audience is doomed to fail. Yes. The PS3-exclusive shooters have all been such abysmal failures that they're only into their third or fourth sequel by nowGǪ GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Kunming
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:59:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote: Dunno most shooter players Ive talked too are just full of giddy happiness that rivals a missile full of sunshine when I tell them that battles in dust have pernament concequences or results making every fight meaningful its like having single player outcomes on a multiplayer platter.
Well YOU know how epic its gonna be and tell that to your friends. Those who dont have an EVE buddy wont know about it-
Hell, I'm still telling ppl about EVE and they are amazed that there is such a game and they never heard about it.
Just saying, when we (EVE players) are here already and ready to pay, why exclude us and search for riches in risky markets?
The answer to that why is: GREED...
If CCP really thinks we are going to buy a console to play their game, well, they should know that I rather buy PLEX for the same money and grief DUSTies from orbit.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:03:00 -
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Kunming wrote:Nova Fox wrote: Dunno most shooter players Ive talked too are just full of giddy happiness that rivals a missile full of sunshine when I tell them that battles in dust have pernament concequences or results making every fight meaningful its like having single player outcomes on a multiplayer platter.
Well YOU know how epic its gonna be and tell that to your friends. Those who dont have an EVE buddy wont know about it- Hell, I'm still telling ppl about EVE and they are amazed that there is such a game and they never heard about it. Just saying, when we (EVE players) are here already and ready to pay, why exclude us and search for riches in risky markets? The answer to that why is: GREED... If CCP really thinks we are going to buy a console to play their game, well, they should know that I rather buy PLEX for the same money and grief DUSTies from orbit.
All the more cash for CCP to hire more staff and build better servers. They might even finally pay someone to clean and repair the fish tank cam |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:11:00 -
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I've been to trailer videos and articles about DUST and every single one of them has comments broken down roughly as such:
20% "**** YOU CCP MAKE A PC/XBOX VERSION" 10% "...ya know what? I'm gonna get a PS3 just for this" (I know this is way more then I expected) 10% "...I'm a bitter vet and this is just gonna fail" 60% "WOO THIS IS AWESOME, WHEN'S IT COME OUT?!"
Yes these numbers are very rough and bit arbitrary but you get the idea.
Point is, I don't care what bitter vets say at this point about DUST anymore... The Drake is a Lie |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:13:00 -
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I lot of my mates are console FPS junkies and they all play on the PS3.
From CoD, MW, Rainbow 6, Unreal, Battlefield etc etc
Only a couple had heard of Dust and were not even slightly interested.
This is the major problem for Dust.
It is going up against some of the best know FPS Multiplayer titles that have a long history and a hardcore following and I can not honestly seeing any of these players moving over to Dust. |
Kunming
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:26:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:I've been to trailer videos and articles about DUST and every single one of them has comments broken down roughly as such:
20% "**** YOU CCP MAKE A PC/XBOX VERSION" 10% "...ya know what? I'm gonna get a PS3 just for this" (I know this is way more then I expected) 10% "...I'm a bitter vet and this is just gonna fail" 60% "WOO THIS IS AWESOME, WHEN'S IT COME OUT?!"
Yes these numbers are very rough and bit arbitrary but you get the idea.
Point is, I don't care what bitter vets say at this point about DUST anymore...
Not every vet is bitter.
Those comments break down the EVE community responses, DUST is still an unknown for the majority of the console community. Then look at what Prince Kobol said, no idea how much is truth but one thing is for sure the market has already favourites and DUST will have to compete for publicity in the first place, before its gameplay will be tested and judged by the masses.
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:46:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ladie Scarlet wrote:Anybody who's not a mouthbreathing idiot can see the future when it comes to Dust. A console shooter (a market that is glutted with titles) exclusive to the console with the smallest audience is doomed to fail. Yes. The PS3-exclusive shooters have all been such abysmal failures that they're only into their third or fourth sequel by nowGǪ That's kind of my point. Console kiddies don't stick with one game for any length of time and developers have to keep cranking out new games to appease them. Do you really see CCP making Dust, Dust 2, and Dust 3 in a year? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:47:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:That's kind of my point. Console kiddies don't stick with one game for any length of time and developers have to keep cranking out new games to appease them. Do you really see CCP making Dust, Dust 2, and Dust 3 in a year? GǪyou mean kind of like releasing (say) a yearly content patch and game update?
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:51:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Tippia wrote:Ladie Scarlet wrote:Anybody who's not a mouthbreathing idiot can see the future when it comes to Dust. A console shooter (a market that is glutted with titles) exclusive to the console with the smallest audience is doomed to fail. Yes. The PS3-exclusive shooters have all been such abysmal failures that they're only into their third or fourth sequel by nowGǪ That's kind of my point. Console kiddies don't stick with one game for any length of time and developers have to keep cranking out new games to appease them. Do you really see CCP making Dust, Dust 2, and Dust 3 in a year?
Thats because those games are not made to last. |
Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.26 20:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ladie Scarlet wrote:That's kind of my point. Console kiddies don't stick with one game for any length of time and developers have to keep cranking out new games to appease them. Do you really see CCP making Dust, Dust 2, and Dust 3 in a year? GǪyou mean kind of like releasing (say) a yearly content patch and game update? game update is not a sequel. Console games don't live on updates and DLC for very long because the audience has been trained to expect a brand new game every few months. CCP expecting Dust to live alongside Eve for years is foolish.
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