Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.03.11 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: wolf419 quite frankly the dramy is op i meen come on i can run lvl 3 missions in it and just kite the npc's while my t2 hobs do the killin boring but i also agree that there has been to much nerfing already un nerf the ships and mods especaly the drake come on who's stupid idiea was it to nerf a ship thats ment to be a tank all this whineing nerf this nerf that makes me sick it's no wauner councel games are more fun only reason i even have to play eve any more is for my friends so it is now nothing more then a paid chat site like yahoo or facebook mabe i'll run some missions or mine or even find some thing else to do in game but i wont enjoy the game i like i did when i first started so much has changed and not for the better captians corters whats that all these buggs and inballances and thats what they come up with i for one would rather see themfix some isiues with game play
I don't really understand all the buffs don't nerf debate. By either boosting or nerfing something you are changing the metagame in some way and everything shifts either upwards or downwards based on the outcome. It's clear that the Frigate bracket is generally balanced as a whole, the only problem is the Dramiel. Why buff every single Frigate in the game to match the Dramiel, and then have to look at the ramifications of a power creep it has on other classes (are Cruisers obsolete now that Frigates are stronger? etc.) Other than saying "the Glass is half full" instead of half empty. Not only are they more likely to screw something up and change the game balance drastically, but it will take about 20x as long for designers to do properly.
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Suitonia
Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.03.11 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Terios Corvalis Sure, lets "balance" the 90M ISK Dramiel to the same level of other frigates like the 200k ISK Rifter. Let me think... NO!
The Daredevil and Cruor are more expensive than Dramiels and they have weaknesses that can be exploited by other classes of ship.
Daredevil - No Dual Prop due to 3 mids if you're using the 90% web (you should), More Commited in Scram/Web range in general. Limited range, Guns require cap, slower than speed fit interceptors making it more vulnerable to kiting outside web range.
Cruor - No Dual Prop due to 3 mids if you're using the 90% web, very slow (slower than some AFs), no neut range bonus making it vulnerable to being kited at 6km+, neuts not very effective against ships like Jaguar, Hawk, Hookbill, Worm etc.
I don't think Price should be the only balancing factor, and as pointed out, the Cruor and Daredevil are indeed more expensive than the Dramiel but also are generally balanced. ---
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