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Not Kalle Demos
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.03.11 23:28:00 -
[421]
Originally by: Admiral Feelgood
Originally by: Not Kalle Demos ITT Mittani still says unironically
LOL!
I was considering voting for Mittani because MAYBE if this game got worse CCP would do something and having Mittani as CSM (the same guy who cant even manage an alliance and destroyed his own alliance 3 ū 4 times) the game would get worse and CCP would do something.
Dear Leader
I bet you feel real good about brown nosing in a creepy RP way but you should stop
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Tehg Rhind
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Posted - 2011.03.12 02:22:00 -
[422]
K, fine. Let's ignore your statement about T2 BPOs for the moment. Let's look at your platform.
1) The CSM makes unrealistic promises to get elected.
This is a no-brained dude. Of course they do. Anyone running for a political office makes unrealistic promises. Including yourself. The difference is that the unrealistic promises they make involve design changes that are supported by their developer Stakeholder status. Your unrealistic promise (if there is one, I'll get to that latter) involves a much larger change in the very nature of the CSM, which CCP may not actually have any obligation or interest in listening to.
2) Now while I just argued that you are making large promises that you have no ability to back, Im going to do a 180 and say that you actually are campaigning on an empty platform. Your basic campaign comes down to "There is clearly a problem, I'm going to fix it because I'm a proven cut-throat dude". This is a completely empty statement.
3) You say your ability to redirect the CSM is proven through your ability to politic. Now, honestly I don't know you IRL, and you very well may have that, bu there is no evidence of that any of us could possibly see. The leadership and politickig you have shown in EvE is meaningless for a task like what you are mentioning. Part of this is because, while leading in EvE does take talent, it also takes the kind of skewed priorities and ego-mania that make for terrible collaborative leaders in the real world. This isn't just targeted at you, but anyone who claims that. Anyone who can devote 40 hours of their life to leading people in a computer game are not the kind of people I would ever want sitting in a board room negotiating a deal that involves real issues, becausethat person has already shown that real issues come second to games.
It's a bit anti-intellectual.
3) What this all boils down to, for me, is that you are arguing against the excessive politicking and lack of results from the CSM (which strikes me as a somewhat unfounded statement, see stakeholder status), but this picture you are showing of the problem, and the solution, is painted by the most grandiose politic double speak I have seen in quite a while.
"the CSM shouldn't bring player problems to CCP, it should bring CCP to the players"
how you get a pass on criticising empty promises and flowery politicking while writig the sappiest politicking campaign of any of the candidates is beyond me. The only explanation I have for it is that you are riding the cult of personality you, to be fair, have rightfully earned.
The entire spiel quote about how the CSM does all it's business on their private forums and at the summit instead of publicly and spin that as some insidious plot is hilarious. OF COURSE that's where they do their work. I mean....I don't get that in the slightest. How could you have a usefull conversation with devs about a potential feature in public without either violating NDA. As for transparency the recent CSM was pretty quality about releasing good minutes and informing the players about what they can.
But you turn on the 'Loose Change" music and make them all a pack of evil liars.
Ironically, you getting elected may only prove your campaign stance that the CSM is filled with double speak politicians who promise the world that they can't deliver and in the end bring nothing to the table.
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ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2011.03.12 03:07:00 -
[423]
The CSM has proved 5 times to be a toothless paper tiger that sell out for a free holiday in Iceland. From what I can see the Mittani is simply saying lets change this. As a result he is standing. Coincidentally, or perhaps because of this the number of players voting in the CSM elections is dramatically higher.
For that reason I'm voting for the Mittani.
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Johnathan Walker
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.12 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: ModeratedToSilence Coincidentally, or perhaps because of this the number of players voting in the CSM elections is dramatically higher.
You're attributing a higher voter turnout because one person is running? =laughs=
Let the Mittani-washing-continue there, Moderated. =eyeroll= Warmly, "The Bear" JW
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Bob Random
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.12 07:51:00 -
[425]
Originally by: Johnathan Walker
You're attributing a higher voter turnout because one person is running? =laughs=
Please present your assertion for the reason there is a higher vote turnout this year, I am all ears. Have a good one... |
Alty McExpendable
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.03.12 18:23:00 -
[426]
Man, this was almost off the first page. Not cool.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Rogue Drone Systems
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Posted - 2011.03.12 21:36:00 -
[427]
Mittens, a selfish request:
Can you bring up the Legion and how much it sucks, once you get to Sulphurville? It needs a 7th turret. This probably won't work, but heck, doesn't hurt to try.
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Zirse
Minmatar ZED Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.12 21:57:00 -
[428]
You have my votes.
If Trebor wins the chair I'm going to have to /lifequit.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.12 23:58:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Alty McExpendable Man, this was almost off the first page. Not cool.
I went out drinking last night and only now, around 6pm have recovered from the hangover. Welp.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Mittens, a selfish request:
Can you bring up the Legion and how much it sucks, once you get to Sulphurville? It needs a 7th turret. This probably won't work, but heck, doesn't hurt to try.
Sure, and no doubt I'll also bang the drum - again - about a second midslot on the Retribution. No doubt I will be ignored, because lol amateurgamedesignersoncsm.
Originally by: Zirse You have my votes.
If Trebor wins the chair I'm going to have to /lifequit.
I love votes. Votes make me happy. Mmmm, votes.
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2011.03.13 02:59:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Johnathan Walker
Originally by: ModeratedToSilence Coincidentally, or perhaps because of this the number of players voting in the CSM elections is dramatically higher.
You're attributing a higher voter turnout because one person is running? =laughs=
Let the Mittani-washing-continue there, Moderated. =eyeroll=
I have been playing this terrible game for 6 years and have voted in every CSM while playing - The presence of the Mittani and his spamming crew of thousands appears to be the only difference in how things are being run this year.
If the presence of person who can "entice" 6000 accounts to vote and the backlash of those who despise his kind is not the reason for the significantly higher voter turnout thus far what is?
Its easy to point and laugh ask galileo
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Enriana Shlirapen
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Posted - 2011.03.13 04:19:00 -
[431]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Mittens, a selfish request:
Can you bring up the Legion and how much it sucks, once you get to Sulphurville? It needs a 7th turret. This probably won't work, but heck, doesn't hurt to try.
Sure, and no doubt I'll also bang the drum - again - about a second midslot on the Retribution. No doubt I will be ignored, because lol amateurgamedesignersoncsm.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.13 06:12:00 -
[432]
I enjoy harassing Hammerhead about Retribution midslots. Deal with it. vOv
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Rogue Drone Systems
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Posted - 2011.03.13 13:58:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Enriana Shli****n Edited by: Enriana Shli****n on 13/03/2011 04:37:03 Edited by: Enriana Shli****n on 13/03/2011 04:34:46
Plus, technically he did tell the cold hard truth, in that this probably won't work. :F
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2011.03.13 14:52:00 -
[434]
I have a question for you: what are your RL feelings towards cats?
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Alty McExpendable
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.03.13 17:29:00 -
[435]
You cut that out right meow!
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Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.13 19:05:00 -
[436]
Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 13/03/2011 19:06:54
Originally by: General Windypops The problem isn't so much Mittens. I actually think he'd be a pretty decent CSM chair (though I think he's totally misunderstood how much 'power' it would give him). It's the fact that he's trying to pad the whole CSM with his cronies, drowning out any independent voices.
Since, you know, CCP follows the CSM's advice and suggestions part and parcel all the time.
This process is no different than any high school student council election process. The difference is our guy isn't promising soda machines in the cafeteria, or that they'd be a really good class president because they watched The West Wing.
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Janos Saal
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Posted - 2011.03.13 19:16:00 -
[437]
Got my vote.
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Not Kalle Demos
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.03.13 20:26:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
This process is no different than any high school student council election process. The difference is our guy isn't promising soda machines in the cafeteria, or that they'd be a really good class president because they watched The West Wing.
Being in UK I often forget what happens in US or what doesnĘt in MittaniĘs case , things are starting to make sense on why Mittani is so desperate and serious about playing Sarah Palin online, making up for lost time I see
Im just glad we dont have an internet spaceship prom, he would probably go all out for that too, I kindda feel bad for all the things I said about him now, I just figured it was some political ambition, you know something to keep the alliance moving, wasnt aware it was all about closure and building self-esteem.
Well since you are probably already in, due to numbers again and nothing else, have fun in Iceland though donĘt expect anything will change just because you are hot headed and emotionally unstable.
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Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.13 20:29:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Not Kalle Demos
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
This process is no different than any high school student council election process. The difference is our guy isn't promising soda machines in the cafeteria, or that they'd be a really good class president because they watched The West Wing.
Being in UK I often forget what happens in US or what doesnĘt in MittaniĘs case , things are starting to make sense on why Mittani is so desperate and serious about playing Sarah Palin online, making up for lost time I see
Im just glad we dont have an internet spaceship prom, he would probably go all out for that too, I kindda feel bad for all the things I said about him now, I just figured it was some political ambition, you know something to keep the alliance moving, wasnt aware it was all about closure and building self-esteem.
Well since you are probably already in, due to numbers again and nothing else, have fun in Iceland though donĘt expect anything will change just because you are hot headed and emotionally unstable.
New campaign slogan:
"Vote for The Mittani - Hey, you never know, he might get frustrated and quit!"
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.13 21:20:00 -
[440]
Originally by: sir gankalot I have a question for you: what are your RL feelings towards cats?
I have three cats. This is not my fault.
I once had two cats, but my orange tabby died not too long ago. This sent me into a bit of a State, and my wife decided that I should get a kitten to try to get over it. I resisted for a long while, then one day she showed me the webpage of a local rescue; a tiny black kitten with a broken tail had been found in a wheel-well of a car trying to keep warm in the depths of the Wisconsin winter.
Black cats are adopted far less than any other kind of cat, too.
Anyway, so I melted and we ran out and adopted the kitten, and since she had become 'foster buddies' with the kitten in the crate next to her, we adopted her friend too. So I'm now at 1 cat, 2 kittens, and an increasingly massive Alaskan Malamute.
Originally by: Not Kalle Demos
Well since you are probably already in, due to numbers again and nothing else, have fun in Iceland though donĘt expect anything will change just because you are hot headed and emotionally unstable.
Darius was the hotheaded GSF CEO. I have ice in my veins. vOv
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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ImmaSplodeYou
HAMMERHOUSE
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Posted - 2011.03.13 21:36:00 -
[441]
Edited by: ImmaSplodeYou on 13/03/2011 21:36:23 Please inform sreegs that Kalle Demos is once again evading hisher forum ban
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Kiki Gr1mness
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Posted - 2011.03.13 21:49:00 -
[442]
1 vote for mittens! ...sold me on the promise of being a manipulative bastard. Half Khanid... half Carebear. Gr1mness |
Jenna Malone
Caldari W-hat LLC
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Posted - 2011.03.13 22:03:00 -
[443]
Alexander, the Giant Turkey!
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.13 22:19:00 -
[444]
I voted for the best candidate running under the Goonfleet banner today. I voted for Kalrand! You should too.
Mittens, don't made me read walls of text. We all know that CCP are mouth-breathing, paste-eating, short-bus riding, golden-goose killing, bait-and-switching, failcascading, lying scum. What we differ on is how to address that issue. You ask for power but give no inkling on how you would use that power. Not a word about bots or incarna. You, sir, are a charlatan.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.13 22:27:00 -
[445]
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson I voted for the best candidate running under the Goonfleet banner today. I voted for Kalrand! You should too.
Mittens, don't made me read walls of text. We all know that CCP are mouth-breathing, paste-eating, short-bus riding, golden-goose killing, bait-and-switching, failcascading, lying scum. What we differ on is how to address that issue. You ask for power but give no inkling on how you would use that power. Not a word about bots or incarna. You, sir, are a charlatan.
i addressed Incarna specifically on the previous page; you're dumb.
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.13 22:39:00 -
[446]
I'm dumb? You're the one chasing after the vote of someone who already voted!
Vote Kalrand for CSM! He's the goonswarm candidate you can trust and if he fails miserably, he has a handy (rl) name that lends itself well to childish barbs like dillhole or dillweed.
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Lady Spanky
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.13 23:00:00 -
[447]
Hi mittens since you won't lie to us at all please tell us how much you paid Evenews 24 and Eve Tribune?
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.13 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spanky Hi mittens since you won't lie to us at all please tell us how much you paid Evenews 24 and Eve Tribune?
test and goonswarm paid 2b/4b respectively for the en24 ad, and nothing for eve tribune since that's an endorsement, not a paid advert
seleene's people got pretty angry that we'd beaten them to the punch for the en24 top-of-the-page space, so their paid ad ended up on a sideline. you angry about that, too?
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos En Garde
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Posted - 2011.03.13 23:11:00 -
[449]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Lady Spanky Hi mittens since you won't lie to us at all please tell us how much you paid Evenews 24 and Eve Tribune?
test and goonswarm paid 2b/4b respectively for the en24 ad, and nothing for eve tribune since that's an endorsement, not a paid advert
seleene's people got pretty angry that we'd beaten them to the punch for the en24 top-of-the-page space, so their paid ad ended up on a sideline. you angry about that, too?
Mittens it's pretty ****ty that you and your alts have been slagging off people like me and Trebor for runnining entirely open competitions saying that it's "immoral" to "buy votes" while you're spending billions behind the scenes buying endorsements and advertising...
At least with our competitions everyone stands a chance to win. you're just lining the pockets of the media.
i guess that's eh "honesty" people get when they vote for you, huh.
Please resize your signature to no more than 120 x 400 pixels. - Adida Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Lady Spanky
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.13 23:19:00 -
[450]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Lady Spanky Hi mittens since you won't lie to us at all please tell us how much you paid Evenews 24 and Eve Tribune?
test and goonswarm paid 2b/4b respectively for the en24 ad, and nothing for eve tribune since that's an endorsement, not a paid advert
seleene's people got pretty angry that we'd beaten them to the punch for the en24 top-of-the-page space, so their paid ad ended up on a sideline. you angry about that, too?
I'm sure it's ENTIRELY coincidence that EN24 which previously was a blatent supporter of Pandemic Legion has suddenly started posting links to PL's leaked forums at exactly the time that Mittani and the NC started bankrolling them.
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