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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.08.25 15:59:00 -
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Disclaimer
I'm sure the original developers of this new method have filed petition to confirm this is not an exploit, especially after seeing what happened to the goons when they tried to exploit FW for ISK, however as I don't have it in writing I have taken the liberty of petitioning for myself to confirm this is legitimate gameplay. In the mean time exercise caution as there is a small chance the following practice may constitute an exploit.
You Will need
A character capable of flying a Tengu / Tier 3 BC (standings and faction irrelevant) Several TLF alts with L4 mission access
You Will Get
The ability to farm missions in 1 system without having to travel anywhere or worry about being killed.
If done well the ability to acquire up to 500k LP / hour (~2.5bn ISK)
Method
Accept several missions on several alts in Olfeim. (The L4 TLF agent in Olfeim only gives missions to Tzvi)
Set clone location to Tzvi.
Destroy Pods.
Spawn missions in Tzvi.
Set clone location to Olfeim.
Destroy Pods
Use your mains to quickly complete the missions in Tier 3 BCs and Tengus in Tzvi.
????
Profit.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
439
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Posted - 2012.08.25 16:09:00 -
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i approve of this exploitation of a failed system. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
197
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Posted - 2012.08.25 16:32:00 -
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Game changing http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
241
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Posted - 2012.08.25 16:34:00 -
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Silence iKillYouu wrote:Game changing
ikr |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
848
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Posted - 2012.08.25 16:52:00 -
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thats quite old. I saw it already used before inferno patch. Fleets of alpha pods are common these days a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
ajdo Esubria
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.25 17:00:00 -
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So how is that different from having 6 two days old alts in gunless frigs pulling 300m/h each in plexes? BTW 500k LP/h is like 1 mission every 2.5 min? How is this guy doing this... that fast? Maybe he's using like 5 chars for pulling and 1 for killing, that would be more like it, and it's approx the same that ppl do in best npc 0.0 missions blitzing only fastest ones, rejecting others. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
241
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Posted - 2012.08.25 17:06:00 -
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ajdo Esubria wrote:So how is that different from having 6 two days old alts in gunless frigs pulling 300m/h each in plexes?
300m/hr from plexes? I think that's some favourable calculation there. True this is also possible but this is of limited supply, whereas the tactic I listed is effectively infinite.
ajdo Esubria wrote:BTW 500k LP/h is like 1 mission every 2.5 min? How is this guy doing this... that fast? Maybe he's using like 5 chars for pulling and 1 for killing, that would be more like it, and it's approx the same that ppl do in best npc 0.0 missions blitzing only fastest ones, rejecting others.
Yes essentially. I believe missions where supposed to be balanced by making you travel around through hostile space and thus inducing some risk, which is contrary to what is listed above. Its not really the same I don't have any problem with people declining missions.
Bienator II wrote: I was running missions [hipster.jpg] before it was cool |
Emily Radcliffe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.25 17:49:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Disclaimer
I'm sure the original developers of this new method have filed petition to confirm this is not an exploit
Correct. |
Dan Carter Murray
99
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Posted - 2012.08.26 01:49:00 -
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what are the minmatar complaining about now? |
Nex apparatu5
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
334
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Posted - 2012.08.26 04:28:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:ajdo Esubria wrote:So how is that different from having 6 two days old alts in gunless frigs pulling 300m/h each in plexes? 300m/hr from plexes? I think that's some favourable calculation there. True this is also possible but this is of limited supply, whereas the tactic I listed is effectively infinite.
Assuming 5k isk/LP as you did in your oroginal post, 300m/hr is only 60k lp/hr, which is trivially easy to do. |
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
268
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Posted - 2012.08.26 06:26:00 -
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Emily Radcliffe wrote:IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Disclaimer
I'm sure the original developers of this new method have filed petition to confirm this is not an exploit
Correct. Didn't wait until after, unlike goons. And the GM's confirmed that an agent sending ALL mission whores to just one system is "as intended"?
Either CCP truly and irrevocably want Eve to become a massive farm like WoW et al. or the GM who handled the case has ineptitude written all over him.
PS: Third option is that GM was not given actual useful data and/or was dragged to his evaluation by careful manipulative wording of petition .. but we player are honourable folk and would never such a thing!!!
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Shirley Serious
The Khanid Sisters of Athra
11
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Posted - 2012.08.26 07:32:00 -
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so, even when there's no amarr systems to plex in, there's still a large LP source, which doesn't have competition for it, only requires people to be able to keep the opposition out of Tzvi, and cannot be shut off, because Olfeim isn't a contestable system?
that's amazing! |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
241
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Posted - 2012.08.26 20:56:00 -
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Shirley Serious wrote:so, even when there's no amarr systems to plex in, there's still a large LP source, which doesn't have competition for it, only requires people to be able to keep the opposition out of Tzvi, and cannot be shut off, because Olfeim isn't a contestable system?
that's amazing!
You can begin to see why i might have thought this might be bringing into the spotlight |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
851
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Posted - 2012.08.26 21:29:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Bienator II wrote: I was running missions [hipster.jpg] before it was cool
what i was saying is that neutrals doing FW missions for alts is nothing new, only supporting your observation. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
450
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Posted - 2012.08.27 14:27:00 -
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This happens once in a while after a patch. The last time I remember this happening was for Caldari in Alparena. I think the Gallente pilots involved called it "The Great Alparena Turkey Shoot".
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Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.08.27 16:11:00 -
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Ah yes, those were some good times. 40 stealth bomber kills in 2 days
X Gallentius wrote:This happens once in a while after a patch. The last time I remember this happening was for Caldari in Alparena. I think the Gallente pilots involved called it "The Great Alparena Turkey Shoot".
QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.08.27 16:41:00 -
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I'm Dramaticus and I support this message This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
652
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Posted - 2012.08.27 17:47:00 -
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Speaking as "one of those goons" who previously broke FW, I think it's cute that you think it being "entirely within legitimate game mechanics" matters in any way. Whether that matters or not is entirely up to CCP Sreegs, and his whims are fickle indeed. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
450
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:08:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Speaking as "one of those goons" who previously broke FW, I think it's cute that you think it being "entirely within legitimate game mechanics" matters in any way. Whether that matters or not is entirely up to CCP Sreegs, and his whims are fickle indeed. BTW, thank you for allowing me to cash out at Tier 5 without having to use a single LP for upgrades. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:13:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Speaking as "one of those goons" who previously broke FW, I think it's cute that you think it being "entirely within legitimate game mechanics" matters in any way. Whether that matters or not is entirely up to CCP Sreegs, and his whims are fickle indeed.
I think the problem lies in poorly thought through game mechanics. (I mean the goon exploit was obviously going to happen, I even chatted about it with others but never put the effort in to find the items with silly 'values' or work out how to manipulate them)
This is clearly an exploit as if agents were only supposed to send missions to one system they all would, don't pretend this is 'working as intended'.
And yes Sreegs is the blunt tool that comes in to defend CCP's eHonour after they invariably screw up (ATX, FW etc..) and generally posting as if there is some kind of award for beating DCM at [the one that isn't - ship-toasting] |
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Elvis Fett
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
33
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:17:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Speaking as "one of those goons" who previously broke FW, I think it's cute that you think it being "entirely within legitimate game mechanics" matters in any way. Whether that matters or not is entirely up to CCP Sreegs, and his whims are fickle indeed.
I think it's cute that you imply you guys were "entirely within legitimate game mechanics". Very cute indeed. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
653
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:42:00 -
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Elvis Fett wrote:corestwo wrote:Speaking as "one of those goons" who previously broke FW, I think it's cute that you think it being "entirely within legitimate game mechanics" matters in any way. Whether that matters or not is entirely up to CCP Sreegs, and his whims are fickle indeed. I think it's cute that you imply you guys were "entirely within legitimate game mechanics". Very cute indeed. Yes thank you for making my point. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
146
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:29:00 -
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funny .... noone here is exploiting according to EULA.
Goons or this guy are just using gaps in systems..... and I guess goons were not banned for bashing FW, because it was bashed by poor CCP development and zero support/oposition from CSM. IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
243
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Posted - 2012.08.28 15:02:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:funny .... noone here is exploiting according to EULA.
How exactly did you work that one out? |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2012.08.28 16:16:00 -
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Well GM's just said its not currently a exploit. Time to log my minnie alt on. |
5mok1ng gun
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:30:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
You Will need
A character capable of flying a Tengu / Tier 3 BC (standings and faction irrelevant) Several TLF alts with L4 mission access
Yes anyone can enter a FW plex this is in line with not creating a safe haven in low sec for people to run these sites with impunity and anything can be done in this game with the proper number of alts including making billions per hour.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
The ability to farm missions in 1 system without having to travel anywhere or worry about being killed.
If done well the ability to acquire up to 500k LP / hour (~2.5bn ISK)
Again ANYONE can enter a FW mission so I donGÇÖt see how you are safe from being killed. Also I do not see how a nine jump journey to or from the systems you stated is " not traveling anywhere " this alone could get you killed. Even if they are destroying their pods this is isk down the toilet not a very effective way of traveling if you ask me.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
Accept several missions on several alts in Olfeim. (The L4 TLF agent in Olfeim only gives missions to Tzvi)
Again ANYTHING can be done with any number of alts this is nothing new and your statement of " this agent ONLY gives missions to Tzvi " is incorrect.
Even if what you say about a agent is correct ( but i have tried it with ALL the agents and have been sent to other places apart from Tzvi quite obviously there is some overlap but nothing indicating anything being BROKEN ) this is not the issue I am seeing with faction warfare.
The issue I am seeing with Faction warfare is the fact that any side ( assuming proper system control of the area ) can go from tier 1 to 5 in the space of a few hours but hay you guys do not want to admit this... |
Amantus
Doctrine. FEARLESS.
193
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Posted - 2012.08.29 17:02:00 -
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5mok1ng gun wrote:and your statement of " this agent ONLY gives missions to Tzvi " is incorrect.
That's because this method no longer works, as of today. |
Inora Aknaria
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.29 17:02:00 -
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Posting to say this no longer works
**** beaten |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
1980
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Posted - 2012.08.30 14:35:00 -
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:smug: |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
2673
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Posted - 2012.08.30 14:41:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote::smug:
swoon CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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