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Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
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Posted - 2012.08.27 15:17:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Seriously, i'd hope the minnies already had their amarr alts ready (takes a bit more skills to handle the missiles) and should be farming to get them all vulnerable. The minnies should welcome the farmers, and let them do their work. The amarr will cash out, then go back to their minnie characters to start the cycle again. FW isn't about winning a war, pvp, etc. it's about the cash outs now. Perhaps when people are cashing out every week, every other week, then CCP might look into the mechanics.
Theres no need for that when Minny farmers can just go Caldari. What you proposed is just more work. The thing about farmers or massive ISK profitability is that the smart will always take the path of least resistance.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
227
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Posted - 2012.08.27 15:42:00 -
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It is easy to blaim others that things does not go so well.
We all can look at mirror and ask question what i can do better?
it is about undocking and doing something, fleet fight do not really say who will win plex wars, plex wars win side who has most farmers and most people who prevent enemy farmers. To stop farmer you do not need fleet, you need some solo pilots who goes out and hunt farmers.
So only reason why amarr fail is that no one is looking at mirror and undock to hunt farmers.
Amarr want to die as martyrs, maybe for role play reasons. |
Rina Kondur
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:35:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:join agony like I did or a corp like mine and learn to love to fight outnumbered
I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance? |
Taoist Dragon
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
24
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Posted - 2012.08.28 02:23:00 -
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Quote:I really like the idea of FW but tbh the biggest problem I have with FW is the large number of whiners in it that consistantly conplain about how this/that is broken in FW and don't do anyhting about it!
Since it's indeed FW that's broken, and not the Amarr militia, there's precious little that anyone but CCP can do about it. There would be fewer threads about FW if people would understand that already and halt the internet psychoanalysis, internet psychotherapy, internet motivational speaking, asking what an army of Duke Nukems would do, mistaking various symptoms for the disease, and so on. Just shut the **** up already about the Amarr. We have one system. In a little bit, we'll have a bunch of systems. Shortly thereafter we'll have one system again. There's nothing left to discover about post-Inferno FW mechanics. Just do your thing until Winter.[/quote]
LOL
FW is NOT broken! The mechanics that were implemented had undesired effects (which many pointed out BTW) but the general FW populace still pushed for them...and guess what? They got what they asked for! As for 'Amarr' being happy with one system....meh if you are happy with that then all well and good but considering the amount of post complaining that 'Amarr' are NOT WINNING I guess you are in the minority in your own faction.
Seriously dude like 90% of the posts in W&T about FW are whine post about people who can't or won't adapt to new game mechanics. I am a wanderer at heart so I have played eve in most of the differing areas from high sec missions to null sov and wormholes. The only area i haven't flown in is incursions and mining as I work in a mine IRL and I'll be buggered if I'm gonna do it 'for fun!'
I have had to adapt to probably more game mechanics than the average player so here is my uncencored opinion:
HTFU, adapt and overcome or just whine and *****....either way you will be judged by your actions and noise.
Now I think I go out and die in some really stooopid ways That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
Dan Carter Murray
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Posted - 2012.08.28 03:58:00 -
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Rina Kondur wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:join agony like I did or a corp like mine and learn to love to fight outnumbered I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance?
You may or may not be, but definitely are the biggest dumb **** in the biggest dumb **** corp I've ever read a post from. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
404
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Posted - 2012.08.28 04:54:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:Rina Kondur wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:join agony like I did or a corp like mine and learn to love to fight outnumbered I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance? You may or may not be, but definitely are the biggest dumb **** in the biggest dumb **** corp I've ever read a post from.
You seem mad. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
200
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Posted - 2012.08.28 07:12:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:Rina Kondur wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:join agony like I did or a corp like mine and learn to love to fight outnumbered I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance? You may or may not be, but definitely are the biggest dumb **** in the biggest dumb **** corp I've ever read a post from.
Let me rephrase Dan Carters words since diplomacy has never been one of his strong suites.
We left because there only so many times when you can engage a triple boosted 3 to one odds blob from iron oxide. That seem to think that being immortalized in a killmail with 1.437% damage is pvp. All the while they circle jerk each other in Arzad and in corp chat on being part of a ten man gang on a frigate trading 'war stories' and killmails to make them feel better.
P.S. would not trade flying with the likes of Dan Carter for three or four iron oxide corps. We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do. http://www.youtube.com/user/Flyinghotpocket/videos |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
200
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:06:00 -
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Rina Kondur wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:join agony like I did or a corp like mine and learn to love to fight outnumbered I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance?
Do your homework. Check the killboards. then make passing remarks on faction warfare corporations/pilots.
Then again there are many a pilot in EVE still stuck in the old school way of thought and think getting into a fast moving fleet and jumping 25 jumps through a warzone is THE ONLY way they will get pvp.
Word to the wise: if you think plexing does not bring you fights you are sorely mistaken. If your not getting fights orbiting the butan you are plexing in the wrong systems or intentionally doing it in backwater systems for LP. Granted you will have 20 or 30 minutes pass while capturing plexes where nothing happens, still beats jumping 23 gates and getting blueballed.
Take it from me I have done the roaming thing for way over a year and a half in both caldari and amarr. Plexing gets you more fights than roaming. you can qoute me on that. We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do. http://www.youtube.com/user/Flyinghotpocket/videos |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins Amarr 7th Fleet
18
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:58:00 -
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Rina Kondur wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:join agony like I did or a corp like mine and learn to love to fight outnumbered I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance?
http://i.imgur.com/1RxGM.png
n++[ 2012.08.23 04:32:17 ] Kaatje Thaxathinadin > its okay, lots of publord retards hold onto grudges like that
Some people can be so mad, when it's all about some LP here and there. |
Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1047
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Posted - 2012.08.28 16:40:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:http://i.imgur.com/1RxGM.pngn++[ 2012.08.23 04:32:17 ] Kaatje Thaxathinadin > its okay, lots of publord retards hold onto grudges like that Some people can be so mad, when it's all about some LP here and there.
I'm glad the only thing you can come up with to slander our organization is a play on local spam we came up with after plexing/flipping 2 systems in our first week of FW. Keep being angry Cynthia, apparently it's the only thing you are good at.
Akai Kvaesir wrote: 1.) The utterly insane level of paranoia, distrust, and infighting amongst the whole Militia. Whether coming from bittervets, or nullsec alliances, the fear of "spais" made any attempt at rallying defensive or offensive fleets (not even counting the bitter hatred of the "legions of PVE farmwhores"). Furthermore, any attempt at cooperation - between the FW vets/corps and the nullsec alliances like FWeddit - was impossible not only on the basis of ego, but also on comms.
A few things- First off, there is a grand total of about 6 active people in Fweddit from nullsec (3 of them are directors); after we all ran with a few of the general militia fleets, and that abomination of a kitchen sink StrayShot used to fly around- we decided we were better off on our own.
At the peak of Fweddits first month in FW, we had 70 people in corp, online at all times of the day. There was literally no reason to open invites to the rest of the militia, so we did what we did. Why complicate things by trying to get through to people that we were going to fly thrashers and only thrashers? After some time we opened fleets to the general militia, we set personal standings with corps we commonly flew with so they could always join our fleets, and we generally accepted anyone that would download the Mumble client and **** up comms with us.
The only thing the general Amarr Militia gave Fweddit, was about 17 channels to pretend to care about, and literally the worst intel channel in the game, that didn't blink a single time for over a month. We did get some quality laughs at 7th Fleets expense, normally listening to FHP talk out of his ass "40 Arty Thrashers can alpha a Vindicator" and watching StrayShot primary things that were 200km off the fleet.
Stalking Mantis wrote:Rina Kondur wrote: I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance?
Do your homework. Check the killboards. then make passing remarks on faction warfare corporations/pilots.
Funny I seem to have logs from our Diplomatic discussions about you telling us 95% of your alliance was in Amarr FW to farm L5 Amarr Navy missions, plex, and generally be ISKmongers (i.e. Har Harrison). That only a core few people in 7th were in it for the fights; also funny that you repeated the same story less than a week ago in Militia chat.
If you're here to carebear, just say you're here to be a digusting carebear. Not everyone in EVE is spacerich, try and get like me. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
452
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:10:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote: It is by and large a phyrric victory because there's nowhere to go to really and truly farm ISK, ....t; 1. Minmatar FW missions 2. Move alts to Caldari front and run plexes all you want.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
201
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:14:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Rina Kondur wrote: I seem to remember 7th Fleet leaving the militia because they couldn't plex like they used to. When did they turn into a PvP focused alliance?
Do your homework. Check the killboards. then make passing remarks on faction warfare corporations/pilots. Funny I seem to have logs from our Diplomatic discussions about you telling us 95% of your alliance was in Amarr FW to farm L5 Amarr Navy missions, plex, and generally be ISKmongers (i.e. Har Harrison). That only a core few people in 7th were in it for the fights; also funny that you repeated the same story less than a week ago in Militia chat. If you're here to carebear, just say you're here to be a digusting carebear. Not everyone in EVE is spacerich, try and get like me.
Ok, let me backtrack to my above quote and emphasis the word corporations/pilots. I cannot speak for nor even promote my Alliance.
That being said there is truth in what you said above about the pve aspects and in fact it is hardly a secret.
Looking at my corporation's pilots the number is FAR more than the actual active pilots. A large number that coincidentally stopped logging in after inferno and the ability to log in, choose a level five/four from the Imperial Navy station in Sahtogas and pve their little heart out under the blue pacts that were available pre-inferno with the local sahtogas pirates.
Fast forward to today (the post-inferno period) and what we have in my corp is a core group of dedicated pvp'ers that choose plexing as a means to get fights. Remember plexing for the current pilots of my corporation is not the goal (that cannot be said for many a 'FW' corporation sadly). Plexing to ARETR is a means to a goal (pvp) not a goal in and of itself.
Just to clarify I wrote the above.
As far as the obvious problem some of the Alliance (and even my corps pilots) have with Fweddit. The way I see it; it is a personal 'I hate you I am better than you' case and you know it does not represent the corporations veiw of fweddit.
Besides hotpocket hasn't been on in weeks he logs in to switch skills, flames the fweddit boys in militia chat for lols and logs out. As far as Cynthia...well Cynthia is just a little lost girl full of anger rage and hate. BUT she is a pilot in my alliance and I consider her a close pvp friend. So she is MY little lost friend full of anger rage and hate.
BESIDES, wake the EF up xolve, haven't you noticed it is a prerequisite to be full of rage to be part of my corporation and alliance?
P.S. Har Harrison submitted his resignation today. Looks like we lost out designated corp salvager. Oh well.
P.P.S. When will I get another chance to roam with a 'just dont give a EFF' fleet from fweddit I still have to visit my parole officer weekly after that fleet with Arnold Schwarzenegger having what appears to be 'sex' with one of the 'My Little Ponies' on comms while we roamed. Good Times Good Times.
We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do. http://www.youtube.com/user/Flyinghotpocket/videos |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins Amarr 7th Fleet
24
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Posted - 2012.08.29 11:24:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:As far as Cynthia...well Cynthia is just a little lost girl full of anger rage and hate. BUT she is a pilot in my alliance and I consider her a close pvp friend. So she is MY little lost friend full of anger rage and hate.
So I said like a week ago I don't post in these forums anymore, because it full of boring trolls and raging newbies, but hey, isn't it cure this is now the 2nd thread about me? GÖÑGÖÑGÖÑ
Some fweddit rage: I'm glad the only thing you can come up with to slander our organization is a play on local spam we came up with after plexing/flipping 2 systems in our first week of FW. Keep being angry Cynthia, apparently it's the only thing you are good at.
blahblah
I remember I told you when you formed your lovely little corp to do this and that to be successful in militia. You called me names, and said you will never do it. One of these things I told you was plexing. You were so proud you will never do it, because you are here to have fun with t1 thrashers. Then LOTS OF PEOPLE worked hard on systems, as it was always the way of militia. You came in last few % of bunker busting, and then it was all "fweddit took raa/lamaa/whatever ALL ALONE" BIG PLAYS So in the end, you were doing what I was telling you to do and you also gave me 7 free kills. So I don't know what to say to you? Good doggie? |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
201
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Posted - 2012.08.29 12:31:00 -
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Cant we all just get along?
You know.................Good Times,,,,,,Noodle Salad ? We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do. http://www.youtube.com/user/Flyinghotpocket/videos |
Dan Carter Murray
100
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Posted - 2012.08.29 16:56:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:As far as Cynthia...well Cynthia is just a little lost girl full of anger rage and hate. BUT she is a pilot in my alliance and I consider her a close pvp friend. So she is MY little lost friend full of anger rage and hate.
So I said like a week ago I don't post in these forums anymore, because it full of boring trolls and raging newbies, but hey, isn't it cure this is now the 2nd thread about me? GÖÑGÖÑGÖÑ Some fweddit rage: I'm glad the only thing you can come up with to slander our organization is a play on local spam we came up with after plexing/flipping 2 systems in our first week of FW. Keep being angry Cynthia, apparently it's the only thing you are good at.blahblah I remember I told you when you formed your lovely little corp to do this and that to be successful in militia. You called me names, and said you will never do it. One of these things I told you was plexing. You were so proud you will never do it, because you are here to have fun with t1 thrashers. Then LOTS OF PEOPLE worked hard on systems, as it was always the way of militia. You came in last few % of bunker busting, and then it was all "fweddit took raa/lamaa/whatever ALL ALONE" BIG PLAYSSo in the end, you were doing what I was telling you to do and you also gave me 7 free kills. So I don't know what to say to you? Good doggie?
Cynthia is my 2nd favorite person to lose ships with. |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
98
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Posted - 2012.08.29 19:17:00 -
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I suppose I should have known that a thread based around finding a way for our Militia to not be so fractured and contentious would, unsuprisingly, translate into a bickering pissing contest. Seriously, we all want (basically) the same thing, good fights and good times. Why all the butthurt rage? Wait, don't answer that.
~Akai
PS- Thanks to those that actually tried to discuss the current situation and potential solutions, rather than whine about how CCP broke FW. Whine all you want, CCP isn't doing anything about it yet, so HTFU. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
138
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Posted - 2012.08.30 10:36:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:I suppose I should have known that a thread based around finding a way for our Militia to not be so fractured and contentious would, unsuprisingly, translate into a bickering pissing contest. Seriously, we all want (basically) the same thing, good fights and good times. Why all the butthurt rage? Wait, don't answer that.
~Akai
PS- Thanks to those that actually tried to discuss the current situation and potential solutions, rather than whine about how CCP broke FW. Whine all you want, CCP isn't doing anything about it yet, so HTFU.
Its been said before but the amarr militia really are their own worst enemies sometimes. the constant whining and relentless negativity from a large portion of the older players is just stupid, all it does is discourage people and drag you down |
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