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Unsurpassed
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:35:00 -
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I have recently purchased a Loki, and piecing together all the subsystems, rigs, equipment etc it just doesn't seem the ship I was looking for.
So what really is a Loki good for? What can I turn my Loki into, without loosing ISK. I tried turning it into a active shield tank, but I had people yell at me about how stupid it was for me to attempt that. I am not looking into PVP wise. Any thoughts, or advice would be very much appericated. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
623
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:37:00 -
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So what do you want it for? Not-PvP is a rather broad category. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
674
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:40:00 -
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Unsurpassed wrote:I have recently purchased a Loki, and piecing together all the subsystems, rigs, equipment etc it just doesn't seem the ship I was looking for.
So what really is a Loki good for? What can I turn my Loki into, without loosing ISK. I tried turning it into a active shield tank, but I had people yell at me about how stupid it was for me to attempt that. I am not looking into PVP wise. Any thoughts, or advice would be very much appericated.
Do you have all tank/fitting/guns/subs and everything related (skills) at 5? -if you do you wouldn't even ask because it's an awesome ship. Also what are you doing with? -what do you want to do with? You can PVE with a good Loki if you have very good skills but imho it's a much better pvp ship. Just an opinion and some questions you need to ask yourself before trying to do something with a ship you can barely use or badly using. brb |
Unsurpassed
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:41:00 -
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I am saying, I am not looking into on turning my Loki into a PVP vessel. I have tried to to make it an 'Active Shield Tank,' but can't seem to do that from advice from others. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
623
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:47:00 -
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Unsurpassed wrote:I am saying, I am not looking into on turning my Loki into a PVP vessel. I have tried to to make it an 'Active Shield Tank,' but can't seem to do that from advice from others.
Alright, I'm still confused. You don't want to PvP in it. That's fine. You want to shield tank it. That's also fine, despite what others have apparently led you to believe.
Here's a cheap high sec exploration fit I stole from, well, read the fit title:
[Loki, mxzf exploration] Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Stasis Webifier II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Medium Shield Booster II Codebreaker I 10MN Afterburner II
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Hobgoblin II x5
Here's an L4 mission fit:
[Loki, Headerman Logu] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Thermic Dissipation Field II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster 10MN Afterburner II
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Hammerhead II x4 Hobgoblin II x5
Here's a very expensive epic arc runner:
[Loki, dmc epic arc] Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Gistum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M [empty high slot]
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Hobgoblin II x5
So... what do you want to do with it? |
Unsurpassed
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:51:00 -
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Thank you for taking the time and doing a little 'Looking-into,' I was more along the lines of Exploration, and couldn't sum it down. The fits you linked are great, and are better than any of the ones I was looking into. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
312
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:53:00 -
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So you started buying parts for a highly modular, very expensive ship, before playing around in eft? |
I-See U
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.08.27 00:56:00 -
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Lokis are good for incursions. Great for webbying frigs/cruisers at 35+ km. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
136
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Posted - 2012.08.28 10:52:00 -
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Well, they are very good PVP ships, jus sayin... |
Cartheron Crust
Matari Exodus
27
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Posted - 2012.08.28 14:27:00 -
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[Loki, hisecmissions /buffer] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Damage Control II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II
425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M
Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster II Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Loki Defensive - Amplification Node Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Warrior II x5 Hornet II x5
Will do every level 4 easily in Minmatar space that I encountered. (Only difficulty will be one of the waves in Angel Blockade). Orbit the BS at 5-9km, F1 frigs/cruisers/bc's/bs's. 545 dps without drones (enough bay for two sets of lights), 626 with faction ammo. 878m/s and 135m sig, use transversal, the meagre shield regen and the buffer to tank all the damage. You can faction the rest of the mids if you want, but it doesn't really make much difference. 25km web is fine for lvl4's and the sig decrease isn't significant enough from the rep fleet extenders. Can change the engineering sub to one of the cap ones if you have max grid skills AND Projectile Rigging V, doesn't really matter though because it's stable anyways. Carry some of the higher tracking ammo just in case, shouldn't need it really.
Can make it a cheaper by using just T2 TE's and T1 rigs. |
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mxzf
Blackened Skies
2065
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Posted - 2012.08.28 15:23:00 -
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-_- it's a weird feeling when someone else beats you to posting your fit, lol.
(not a bad thing by any means, just something I found amusing) |
Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
78
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Posted - 2012.08.28 15:41:00 -
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Unsurpassed wrote:I tried turning it into a active shield tank, but I had people yell at me about how stupid it was for me to attempt that. I am not looking into PVP wise.
Err ... who told you, and did they give a reason?
There's no shame in flying a few lv3 missions to get the feel of a new ship. And of course an active shield tank is a viable option for PvE. |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2012.08.28 18:29:00 -
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pve needs large AC or you need arty...otherwise have fun burning around the place. Loki is actually amazing at popping pve frigates with the web range sub. After that you're going to yo yo around the place trying to pop the bigger ships. |
Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative
75
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:00:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Here's an L4 mission fit:
[Loki, Headerman Logu] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Thermic Dissipation Field II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster 10MN Afterburner II
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Hammerhead II x4 Hobgoblin II x5
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So... what do you want to do with it? Burn it.
Seriously, what is this?! |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
626
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:17:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:Here's an L4 mission fit:
[Loki, Headerman Logu] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Thermic Dissipation Field II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster 10MN Afterburner II
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Hammerhead II x4 Hobgoblin II x5
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So... what do you want to do with it? Burn it. Seriously, what is this?!
That, sir, is a shield tanked mini-phoon. |
Swarm Of Bees
Dark Mare Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:21:00 -
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Try researching your ship before you buy it next time |
Songbird
59
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:50:00 -
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incursion loki shield - 4 navy webs + artilleries if I'm not mistaken - gives you about 100-ish m/hr - non pvp application |
Maeltstome
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Intrepid Crossing
58
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Posted - 2012.08.29 15:45:00 -
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Songbird wrote:incursion loki shield - 4 navy webs + artilleries if I'm not mistaken - gives you about 100-ish m/hr - non pvp application
You make it sound like a solo incursion ship.... surely not? |
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