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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.03.18 14:24:00 -
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... you just can't help but watch the train wreck and laugh.
So, I'm in the Recruitment channel with the intent of trying to rebuild my corporation's numbers, when I "luck out" and see someone looking for an industrial corp. After a rather lengthy interview, the individual says that he's an experienced trader. I offer to hire him, and bam! I give him access to a lightly-funded account to the tune of 50 million ISK with which I hope to at least see a demonstration of his trade skills. I told him I'd be watching the account - just like any sane CEO would - and he expected no less.
During this whole process, I was contacted by ex-corpmates of his, and was told that he was a corp thief, but proof at the time wasn't readily available. I took their claims under advisement, and told them that the hire was on a short leash.
Well, it didn't take him long after we worked out the proper roles for it, for him to claim to find a market order that could supposedly double that investment; sure enough, it doesn't take long for me to see the Wallet icon flash with an update - not once, but twice. At that point, he asks that if I'm serious about making more money for the corp, we each go in for a certain amount, half from him and half from me. Red flag #1, especially so soon after a hire. Now, I'm wondering about that "transaction" that he claimed he managed to complete, so I go to the wallet division's Transactions tab and refresh, expecting to see what pushed the wallet account to 100 million ISK. It's blank.
Okay, red flag #2. So, I go over to the Journal tab - if money moved at all, it'd show up there. I refresh it, and there it is - the big, glaring red flag: he withdrew the first 50 million, then promptly replaced it with 100 million. Nothing transaction-y about that.
So, while I'm working on getting his roles revoked, I'm telling him that I'm considering making the investment. Once all his roles are gone, I blocked him and practically read him the Riot Act. He wasn't able to clean out the account in the end, and he was removed from my corp last night.
So, while a corp looking to get more people back may relax most rules for at least a few applications, don't assume they're not keeping an eye on you in other ways. Especially if the CEO's a Caldari, runs an industrial corp, and knows how to keep an eye on the books.
In memory of Mr Kajimoto - the failed corp thief involved in this, who may or may not have been biomassed by now due to the colossal failure that was this latest theft attempt, and probably will never see a player corporation again on that character |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.03.18 14:56:00 -
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So why didn't you...accept his generous offer, cajole him into sending you his part of the investment first, and THEN remove his roles???
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.03.18 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo
In memory of Mr Kajimoto - the failed corp thief involved in this, who may or may not have been biomassed by now due to the colossal failure that was this latest theft attempt, and probably will never see a player corporation again on that character
You'd be surprised.
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2011.03.18 14:59:00 -
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reading your post made me search google for the term "rubber helmet", this is what came back.
that is all. . -IRON MIKE IS hi sec lolwarrior- |
Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.18 22:39:00 -
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Quote: After a rather lengthy interview, the individual says that he's an experienced trader. I offer to hire him, and bam! I give him access to a lightly-funded account to the tune of 50 million ISK with which I hope to at least see a demonstration of his trade skills.
Should read ;
After chatting to the guy in question I did Zero API checks or Corp history checks,but instead relied on being tipped off from previous targets.I also allow free access to corp funds after 10minutes.
To be honest your OP doesn't even really make sense,what you have failed to mention is that after successfully seeing through my little attempt at social engineering you neglected to mention to corp and alliance mates that my roles were being dropped and that i was indeed as you put it a 'thief'
You seem to like yourself from this sentence;
Quote: Especially if the CEO's a Caldari, runs an industrial corp, and knows how to keep an eye on the books.
Does playing a CEO in an internet game of spaceships turn you on?Do you think you are of a higher intelligence? Surly a great Caldari CEO from an industrial corp who knows how to keep an eye on the books realises that sharing intel between corp mates and alliance is a good thing?
All it took was for me to go to sleep,wake up log on and chat about my market investment plans to your alliance (I take from you and spend it on Exotic Dancers and Quafe)and all of a sudden my wallet is blinking and i'm a quarter of a billion up.
I didn't feel the need to stroke my e-peen over this too much as to be honest it wasn't the greatest haul but a quick search of the forums and this post caught my eye.
You sir failed at passing on information which allowed me to continue my streak of corp thefts which have now numbered 3 in 12 days to a total of around 3.2billion Isk and one wormhole + POS.
Makers Mark Industry; In the space of 8 hours stole 1 billion Isk worth of raw minerals and a well researched 10 run raven BPC from corp hangar along with everything else in the public access hangar.I also stole 2 command ship books from inside an Orca flying in space along with other random skill books.
Deus Ortus Convinced the CEO I was a mute and couldn't speak on teamspeak so it would give an excuse to listen but never speak to them.Within 48 hours was given 1billion Isk cash to purchase new POS equipment for the new wormhole they were moving into.
I also convinced an Orca pilot to let me reprocess all his ore in hold as I had perfect refining skill as well as trading me the raw minerals he had.I then went to the old wormhole they were living in rather than brining the imaginary POS I had bought with the Isk they had given me to their current location and proceeded to eject the contents of the ship array into the POS itself.
I changed the password on the shields and giggled madly as the hulk pilots wonder what the **** was going on in teamspeak.Log off for an hour inside the POS and get bumped out the shields by what im assuming was a password/rights change on relog.
Join the teamspeak server using same name as one of the officers in corp and explain I cant get into the POS and request password from CEO.CEO thinks my voice sounds funny so I explain I have a bad cold and he takes it hook line and sinker.He actually believes he is speaking to a corpie and tells me the password.
I proceed to log multiple alts on,probe the entrance out from inside and run the ships out of the POS toempire.24 hour timer on kick finally runs out so I use an alt to fly to the wormhole and offer to buy the POS and wormhole for my corps use.CEO buys it and we kill him when he starts to unanchor the tower.Claimed wormhole and pos + equipment for our own.
And then you guys.. You post **** on c+p claiming to have caught a corp thief without even telling the whole story.
In the words of yourself
Quote: null Quote: ... you just can't help but watch the train wreck and laugh.
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Frau Klaps
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.03.18 22:44:00 -
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That's a lot of words just to tell us you are mad. ---
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Millie Clode
Amarr Insert Cool Name Here
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Posted - 2011.03.18 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kajimoto RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!
---------- Who, me? |
Robi Ouy
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Posted - 2011.03.18 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Robi Ouy on 18/03/2011 22:58:04 :)
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Frau Klaps That's a lot of words just to tell us you are mad.
Try reading them,I knows it a wall of text sort of, but really I think you skimmed it and missed the point.
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Millie Clode
Originally by: Mr Kajimoto RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!
Raging about being 3.2 billion isk up? Again please read posts before assuming anything.
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TipsyMcStagger
Caldari Spruillo WarDec Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:15:00 -
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Cool stories bros.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:39:00 -
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Wtf is wrong with you people breaking the layout of the page so I can't read the response normally...I mean come on damnit. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Yo****aka Moromuo on 18/03/2011 23:44:27 Edited by: Yo****aka Moromuo on 18/03/2011 23:41:58 Yeah, right; my intention from the start was to give you limited access to that one division. I even told you I'd be watching it, flat-out. What happened? You screwed up, plain and simple.
Sure, the tip-offs were taken under advisement, but weren't easily proven - and by the time they were, I noticed your shady wallet-work. In the end, they didn't have to prove a damn thing.
If you scammed alliance-mates, that's their fault for not seeing it as a scam, and they acknowledged that themselves. Not a single one came to me asking for a repayment since some corp-mate went and scammed them.
So, yeah, I think Frau's right: you're mad. And I couldn't care less.
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Yo****aka Moromuo on 18/03/2011 23:49:34 Edited by: Yo****aka Moromuo on 18/03/2011 23:49:03 Also, one other thing...
When you're on roles cooldown and are blocked by an individual, you don't automatically gain the right to spam the corporate mailbox in an effort to harass them - as a matter of fact, you never had the right. I'm pretty sure the game's ToS and EULA remove that "right" from you quite well.
QFT from the Terms of Service:
Quote: You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
The bolded section is applicable.
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Kajimoto on 19/03/2011 00:02:19 Had to edit twice did we?
Im really not mad just find it funny how you call me fail yet I still managed to pull assets out of your alliance AFTER you made your OP.
Not mad?Dont care?Then dont bother posting.....as it stands I am up 3.2billion iskies.
You could have stopped this before it began.
Quote: null Quote: I blocked him and practically read him the Riot Act.
Sure you did big boy and also claimed you were gonna get the GM's to ban me for harassment.Thing is there are always people like you to take advantage of.
Just to show you how easy this is I now have another toon in your corp - Addi Cova.
I CAN CONTINUE THIS UNTIL YOU TRUST NO ONE.
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Robi Ouy
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Posted - 2011.03.19 00:01:00 -
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I am also looking for corps to steal from//..//..
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Robi Ouy
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Posted - 2011.03.19 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Robi Ouy on 19/03/2011 00:15:20 :)
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.19 00:17:00 -
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Looking at your post history reveals a lot about you yoshi.Everything is becoming clear.......
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.19 01:19:00 -
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Mr. Kajimoto From: Stinkypirate Sent: 2011.03.17 16:01 To: Yo****aka Moromuo
Hello, My name is Stinkypirate and i am from the Bluewater Industries corp. A new recruit of yours Mr Kajimoto is a theif. He made away with 700 million from us and has hit up 2 other corps before joining yours. I strongly urge you to remove his roles and boot him from your corporation.
Hoping this reaches you in time, Stinky
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.19 01:28:00 -
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From: Toxicpirate Sent: 2011.03.19 01:08 To: Canri Deltax,
Hello, I am writing you in reference to one of your new recruits. Mr Kajimoto is a corporation theif. He has hit up my corporation as well as 4 others recently. I strongly urge you to remove his roles if any and boot him from your corp.
Hope this reaches you in time Toxic
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.19 01:32:00 -
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[01:08:58] Toxicpirate > hello [01:09:00] Canri Deltax > whos this dude? [01:09:10] Toxicpirate > kajimoto? [01:09:14] Canri Deltax > yeah [01:09:20] Toxicpirate > he is a corporation theif [01:09:42] Toxicpirate > and has recently joined your corp [01:09:54] Canri Deltax > what proof? [01:10:06] Canri Deltax > u mentioned 4 how is that possible? [01:11:06] Toxicpirate > he joins and either stays with them for a while like he did with mine... and then empties out the members open hanger and anything else he can get his hands on. [01:11:28] Toxicpirate > I have a mail from his former ceo on my alt about how he tried to donate the entier corp wallet to himself [01:13:14] Canri Deltax > so he has been sucessful? [01:13:22] Canri Deltax > what proof? [01:14:21] Toxicpirate > he has been sucessful.... he made off with 900million in minerals from my corp.... as well as a few bpc's [01:14:57] Canri Deltax > EEEEEEEK who were the other targets? can i get the mail from ceo [01:15:40] Toxicpirate > I am forwading you the mail now [01:16:12] Toxicpirate > my ceo will also chat with you and give u background if you would like [01:16:58] Canri Deltax > sec let me read mail [01:17:04] Canri Deltax > yeah get ceo in please [01:17:07] Canri Deltax > if you could [01:18:13] aarton zebhawk > Hey Canri [01:19:27] Canri Deltax > heya [01:19:32] Canri Deltax > so whos this dude? [01:19:37] aarton zebhawk > I can provide a lot of background on the character in question that ripped us off [01:19:55] Canri Deltax > yeah please do he seems quite netaurious [01:20:01] Canri Deltax > i shld be wary? [01:20:39] aarton zebhawk > he was actually one of the founding members of our corp, but went with a spin off corp about 9 months ago. About two months after the split, he stole all their isk and bp's [01:21:16] Canri Deltax > He founded your corp? [01:21:29] aarton zebhawk > He then joined our corp under a different name (the one he is using now, we knew him as Kari XXXX, he had several different characters with that name structure) [01:21:44] Canri Deltax > wait wait wait [01:21:47] Canri Deltax > im confused [01:21:52] aarton zebhawk > and ripped us off for another 500M and some bpc's [01:21:58] Canri Deltax > wait a second dude [01:22:04] Canri Deltax > who was he originally [01:22:12] Canri Deltax > he wasnt mr kajimoto originally? [01:22:26] aarton zebhawk > yes, he was a founder of Bluewater Industries, then left and went with Goldstar ship yards when they split from us
[01:22:46] Canri Deltax > toons name? [01:22:56] Canri Deltax > or it wasnt mr kajimoto? [01:23:06] aarton zebhawk > oh god no, he has had at least 15 characters that I know of, a good dozen while he was in our original corp before it split [01:23:15] Canri Deltax > HOLY **** [01:23:20] Canri Deltax > how did you figure this out [01:23:41] Canri Deltax > THIS DUDE IS ZEEEE PROZOR! [01:23:42] aarton zebhawk > Mr Kajimoto is just the latest. But all is characters have the letters "ka" in them [01:23:44] Canri Deltax > lol [01:23:55] Canri Deltax > ah like his MO [01:24:02] Canri Deltax > sorta like a cereal killer? [01:24:22] aarton zebhawk > well, we only realized it was him after he ripped us off - when we confronted him, he admitted it was Kari all along [01:24:30] aarton zebhawk > yeah [01:24:50] Canri Deltax > so this mr kajimoto is american? [01:24:53] Canri Deltax > or uk? [01:25:01] Canri Deltax > he hasnt spoken on teamspeak yet [01:25:34] aarton zebhawk > btw, if you want mre info on him, contact Mathieus Rogan, the CEO of Goldstar Chipyards (that is the corp that split off from Bluewater) - he can give you a lot more detail if you need it [01:25:44] aarton zebhawk > he is from the UK [01:26:18] Canri Deltax > can u invite him to the convo? [01:26:26] aarton zebhawk > sorry, Goldstar Shipyards [01:26:39] aarton zebhawk > Matt?
http://www.youtube.com/user/ieatacidme#p/a/u/0/fohk2JiEIN0
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TipsyMcStagger
Caldari Spruillo WarDec Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.19 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: TipsyMcStagger on 19/03/2011 01:48:04 I think both of them r mad and this whole situation is getting outta hand with these crazy wall-o-text paragraphs that you have 2 scroll over to read ppl need to settle down and eat some ice cream an let the coolness get into they vertibrae
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Blaack Panther
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Posted - 2011.03.19 02:04:00 -
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Im so confused WHO IS MR KAJIMOTO?
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Kill Rockstar
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Posted - 2011.03.19 02:18:00 -
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I can actually confirm that Mr Kajimoto is actually Mr Kajimoto but he is also not Mr Kajimoto!!! FACT
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.19 02:23:00 -
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WHo am I?
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.03.19 02:38:00 -
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'the hell...
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.03.19 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus Wtf is wrong with you people breaking the layout of the page so I can't read the response normally...I mean come on damnit.
^^^^^^^^ - this. seriously now, WTF!?
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.19 17:04:00 -
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Posting in epic thread about netaurious cereal killer.
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Canri Deltax
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Posted - 2011.03.19 17:43:00 -
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Quote: [01:23:06] aarton zebhawk > oh god no, he has had at least 15 characters that I know of, a good dozen while he was in our original corp before it split
^^
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Mr Kajimoto
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Posted - 2011.03.19 18:08:00 -
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Confirming that i am a netaurious cereal killer.
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