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March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion SOLAR WING
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:28:00 -
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Situation: low-sec system. 1400mm Machariel is sitting on undock and alphaing small ships. Chimera is shield boosting him.
let's say i an get Mach into 1 minute aggro. Questions: - What to use and how many ships i need to kill it? - Let's say i can find 2-4 guys. Is it possible at all? - What if we get 1-2 jammers (blackbirds). Will be they able to neutralize Chimera? |
Aranial
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2012.08.28 10:02:00 -
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Blap fitted Moros? |
Katalci
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
126
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Posted - 2012.08.28 10:36:00 -
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Forget about jamming, especially with Blackbirds -- bring more damage. With four or five guys in Taloses or other high-damage ships, you will be able to kill him before he docks.
If you can only get two guys, bring a Moros/Revelation and something with dual 90% webs (you'll need a "third guy" for the cyno because it needs to be at range from the duder, but you should have an alt capable of lighting a cyno and flying a Rupture or Maller)
If you can get a few more guys in dreads or supers and get him to launch fighters, you'll get two killmails :D |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins Amarr 7th Fleet
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:24:00 -
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We had the same problem, bu with Vindicator and Archon.
1 solution http://a7th.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14445679
But really, you can run the numbers for yourself, even assuming an ECCM fitetd on the carrier, you can jam it. |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
145
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:04:00 -
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if the mach pilot is not an idiot ... he will dock the ship inside the carrier and u cannot do a **** about him ... this is the most advanced station gaming fagotry in this game .... enjoy IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.08.28 14:04:00 -
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As Snakes says, unless he is a mouth breathing ****** he will just dock the Mach in the Chimera (aggression mechanics do not apply). QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
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Posted - 2012.08.28 14:10:00 -
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Where on the doll did the hyperdallas touch you?
The moar you cry the less you pee |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion
245
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Posted - 2012.08.28 14:20:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Where on the doll did the hyperdallas touch you? he makes me fill pain for such a low level of Eve so-called "pvp-ers" .... |
Gary Bell
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.28 14:24:00 -
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Well with the new aggro Mechanics this should be fixed i believe? Of course those mechanics have that pesky "Coming Soon" attachment. |
Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1047
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Posted - 2012.08.28 16:14:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:Where on the doll did the hyperdallas touch you? he makes me fill pain for such a low level of Eve so-called "pvp-ers" ....
You should feel pain for that abomination of a sentence you spewed out.
Nobody, anywhere, said PvP should be fair. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
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Hi Lighter
Ghost Headquarters The Ghost Army
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Posted - 2012.08.28 16:20:00 -
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Tracking Titan Blap |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:07:00 -
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Met a guy doing the same thing.
Haven't found a way to kill it, once we warped in on him, while he was agressed, he dumped his Mach into the carrier's SMA warped the pod off and docked the carrier.
No way to kill it unless you get the carrier agressed and kill the carrier.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.08.28 18:38:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Situation: low-sec system. 1400mm Machariel is sitting on undock and alphaing small ships. Chimera is shield boosting him. What i want is: kill the machariel.
let's say i an get Mach into 1 minute aggro. Questions: - What to use and how many ships i need to kill it? - Let's say i can find 2-4 guys. Is it possible at all? - What if we get 1-2 jammers (blackbirds). Will be they able to neutralize Chimera?
Bait him to aggress, jam with because of falcon, bring enough Tornadoes to alpha him. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2012.08.28 18:43:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:March rabbit wrote:Situation: low-sec system. 1400mm Machariel is sitting on undock and alphaing small ships. Chimera is shield boosting him. What i want is: kill the machariel.
let's say i an get Mach into 1 minute aggro. Questions: - What to use and how many ships i need to kill it? - Let's say i can find 2-4 guys. Is it possible at all? - What if we get 1-2 jammers (blackbirds). Will be they able to neutralize Chimera? Bait him to aggress, jam with because of falcon, bring enough Tornadoes to alpha him.
Bring enough to alpha the carrier, then the mach will follow. |
Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1048
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Posted - 2012.08.28 18:44:00 -
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Undock newb alt in Merlin. Get Newb Killed. Warp in Fleet.
Repeat until Success. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.08.28 18:47:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Undock newb alt in Merlin. Get Newb Killed. Warp in Fleet.
Repeat until Success.
The only way you'll get success is if said mach falls asleep and fails to dock his mach in the carrier. |
Hyperdallas
RedBull War Toys Pizza of the hut
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:55:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:Where on the doll did the hyperdallas touch you? he makes me fill pain for such a low level of Eve so-called "pvp-ers" ....
umadbro
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Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1048
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:10:00 -
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chatgris wrote: The only way you'll get success is if said mach falls asleep and fails to dock his mach in the carrier.
Admittedly, I've done this before... Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:54:00 -
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Didn't know about the carrier dock thing. Can you smart bomb his pod? Or too close to station? I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Elli M0o
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.28 23:58:00 -
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Cant smartbomb within 5k of station.
But i can bet you can tempt him into moving off range of carrier if you offer a juicy enough target.. |
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Lithalnas
Privateers
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Posted - 2012.08.29 06:52:00 -
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maybe you could cyno in a titan at 0 which can use its ultra large clip to bounce him out. On the other hand you just cynoed in a titan for 2 kills which have a 90% chance of not happening. Privateer Alliance, rebuilding a not so safe High Sec.-á
Want to assist in this endevor? (contract wars, corp/pilot recrutment) Contact one of our directors. |
Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.29 10:18:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Situation: low-sec system. 1400mm Machariel is sitting on undock and alphaing small ships. Chimera is shield boosting him. What i want is: kill the machariel.
let's say i an get Mach into 1 minute aggro. Questions: - What to use and how many ships i need to kill it? - Let's say i can find 2-4 guys. Is it possible at all? - What if we get 1-2 jammers (blackbirds). Will be they able to neutralize Chimera?
Will never happen. The Mach gets parked in the Carrier and the Carrier docks, unless the pilot is a complete ******.
It's blatant abuse of game mechanics (along with the ever-present Orca gatecamp), but 'elite PVPers' will cry and complain that it's 'fine' until CCP's nuts retract into their body and they get too scared to do anything about it.
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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.08.29 10:44:00 -
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tbh these people are the saddest of the saddest and have nothing better to do, most likely basement dweller losers with no friends.
Drop a titan bridge on the carrier and get something to bump it, 100mn cynabal works Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
MushroomMushroom
Consolidated Sprocket
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:53:00 -
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Lithalnas wrote:maybe you could cyno in a titan at 0 which can use its ultra large clip to bounce him out. On the other hand you just cynoed in a titan for 2 kills which have a 90% chance of not happening.
There are certainly Titan pilots that would do it, saw a kill just the other day where someone dropped a titan on a single badger mkII with nothing in the cargo hold. The trick is finding a titan pilot willing to trust you.
Also, what about using a mach to bumb him out of carrier dock range and then trying to out damage the reps before he can dock in station? |
Martin0
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 18:45:00 -
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1- bump the thanatos away 2-open cyno 3-call in the moros |
Katalci
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.08.31 19:50:00 -
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Forgot about storing in the carrier... Perhaps try bumping it ? If you can't bump it, you will need to switch you plan to killing the carrier first rather than the faction BS. If he's stupid, he will launch fighters. Shoot them and they will probably auto-aggress back.
hahaha hahaha HAHAHAHA +rep for killing that ******; I knew him a while ago. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:01:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Situation: low-sec system. 1400mm Machariel is sitting on undock and alphaing small ships. Chimera is shield boosting him. What i want is: kill the machariel.
let's say i an get Mach into 1 minute aggro. Questions: - What to use and how many ships i need to kill it? - Let's say i can find 2-4 guys. Is it possible at all? - What if we get 1-2 jammers (blackbirds). Will be they able to neutralize Chimera?
The only thing you could try is a cyno bump. Other than that, this sort of elite PVP is completely risk free.
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feihcsiM
Last Exit For The Lost Dark Therapy
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:45:00 -
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A corp mate in a throwaway, 'low threat' cruiser, eg a thorax with an overheated 100MN MWD can bump orcas a few KM. If you warp in at 50 while he's aggro'd something else (bait) and burn at him you should be able to smack a low mass BS like a mach a long way out of redocking range.
Then you need to web scram and kill it It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2012.09.01 20:06:00 -
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issue is if the pilot knows what he is doing he will never loose his ship. no risk pvp and ccp should fix. |
GreenSeed
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Posted - 2012.09.02 00:52:00 -
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mwd fitted hurricane.
bump for great justice.
then grab it with 4 or 5 cheap frigs with webs+ scrams. |
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