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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.03.21 18:36:00 -
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and here is what the 4th bonus will be for each ship (come summer 2011):
vengence: 5% to missle/rockets rof
Retribution: 10% to armor per lev
hawk: 5% to missle/rockets rof
harpy: 10% bonus to shield amount per lev
Ishkur 10% bonus to drone hit point and damage per lev
Enyo: 10% to armor amount per lev
jag: 10% to sheilds per lev
wolf: 5% bonus to rof per lev
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.03.21 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 21/03/2011 18:41:11 I'd believe it when I see it "in game".
edit.. on TQ
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Legolas Greenleaf
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Posted - 2011.03.21 18:42:00 -
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Fascinating.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.03.21 18:52:00 -
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Amarr and Caldari tend to get the passive bonuses. Minmatar and Gallente often opt for Rep amount bonuses. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Bizmarhk
Mafia Redux
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Posted - 2011.03.21 18:55:00 -
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Is it actually true that AF's are getting an additional bonus?
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2011.03.21 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Stick Cult on 21/03/2011 19:05:47
Originally by: Bizmarhk Is it actually true that AF's are getting an additional bonus?
There's been a lot of talk of a 4th bonus, and CCP has been trying to decide on one. At one point it was an AB bonus for all AF's on Sisi, but that was taken off, since it was a little bit overpowered. However, this list is just pure bull, until OP cites any sources. For one, they wouldn't give another 50% dps damage to the Ishkur or 25% RoF on the Wolf.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Lubomir Penev
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.03.21 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult Edited by: Stick Cult on 21/03/2011 19:05:47
Originally by: Bizmarhk Is it actually true that AF's are getting an additional bonus?
There's been a lot of talk of a 4th bonus, and CCP has been trying to decide on one. At one point it was an AB bonus for all AF's on Sisi, but that was taken off, since it was a little bit overpowered. However, this list is just pure bull, until OP cites any sources. For one, they wouldn't give another 50% dps damage to the Ishkur or 25% RoF on the Wolf.
Indeed. The 4th bonus on Gallente and Minmatar AF is actually pretty simple to find, they miss a bonus from their T1 hull (falloff on Gallente, tracking on Minmatar). Those are a no brainer as it is a good yet not overpowered bonus that would help greatly (e.g. a 200mm Wolf popping drones with 200mm ACs).
The problem is to find a good replacement for the resist bonus of the Caldari and Amarr hulls that got nullified by the T2 resists.
Tracking for Harpy, Missile time of flight for Hawk maybe
Rep amount for Vengeance (Nice synergy with cap amount bonus), tracking for Retribution would make some sense. There are no macrominers in EVE |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult Edited by: Stick Cult on 21/03/2011 19:05:47
Originally by: Bizmarhk Is it actually true that AF's are getting an additional bonus?
There's been a lot of talk of a 4th bonus, and CCP has been trying to decide on one. At one point it was an AB bonus for all AF's on Sisi, but that was taken off, since it was a little bit overpowered. However, this list is just pure bull, until OP cites any sources. For one, they wouldn't give another 50% dps damage to the Ishkur or 25% RoF on the Wolf.
not only can they they are going to... as for my sources wouldn't you like to know...
guys better start buying up these ships now cuss they are going to cost lost of isk in the next few months...
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:03:00 -
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I'd be sexing the hell out of all of them except the Retribution and Enyo.
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Oddymandius
Minmatar Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:06:00 -
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WTS: Jaguar, 50 million
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:25:00 -
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Wasn't the Ab bonus put on hold or scrapped because at their top possible speeds they had really bad agility issues?
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Glome Magicpants
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Wasn't the Ab bonus put on hold or scrapped because at their top possible speeds they had really bad agility issues?
Im pretty sure the main reason it was scrapped was because of all the dip****s putting oversized AB's on jags etc on sisi and zipping around in godmode and ruining it for everyone....twots.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Glome Magicpants Im pretty sure the main reason it was scrapped was because of all the dip****s putting oversized AB's on jags etc on sisi and zipping around in godmode and ruining it for everyone....twots.
its a legitimate strategy!
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Sisohiv
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.03.22 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: MeBiatch and here is what the 4th bonus will be for each ship (come summer 2011):
vengence: drivers side airbags
Retribution: Extended warranty
hawk: child locks
harpy: leather interior
Ishkur DVD player in the drone bay
Enyo: ABS braking
jag: Keyless entry
wolf: 5% bonus to rofl per lev
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.03.22 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: MeBiatch
Retribution: 10% to armor per lev
I would love CCP forever if that happened.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.03.22 00:57:00 -
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It will be ewar bonuses!
Caldari with get Sensor Dep, Minmatar will get Energy Drain ... ccp special!
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.03.22 01:43:00 -
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Hey guys friendly forum warrior obsidian here.
For those of you wondering about the 4th bonus for AF, they do exist and they are long overdue. AF were supposed to get a 4th bonus back in Dominion, but....... CCP screwed it up and there wasnt enough testing done on them and no balance could be done.
the issue went to the CSM and was put on the priority list, but once again kept getting delayed because of balance issues.
If this list is true then everyone is going to start using ishkurs as the 10% drone hp / damage will totally decimate other frigates. IE dramiels.
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Varesk
Gallente Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2011.03.22 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel It will be ewar bonuses!
Caldari with get Sensor Dep, Minmatar will get Energy Drain ... ccp special!
there are these ships (in game) called "Electronic Attack Frigates". you should look in it.
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2011.03.22 03:22:00 -
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I'm not sure the Retribution needs a 4th bonus as much as a 2nd mid slot.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.03.22 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel It will be ewar bonuses!
Caldari with get Sensor Dep, Minmatar will get Energy Drain ... ccp special!
there are these ships (in game) called "Electronic Attack Frigates". you should look in it.
ugg I was trolling.
to the other poster I don't buy the CCP planned it bs line, there is a dev blog here about what needs to be fixed and 4th AF bonus got mentioned and the dev said, what are they missing? They had to have it explained that all other T2 ships had 4 bonuses.
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lloyd bank
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Posted - 2011.03.22 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
If this list is true then everyone is going to start using ishkurs as the 10% drone hp / damage will totally decimate other frigates. IE dramiels.
and how many gallente ships are on the top 20 list? one?
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2011.03.22 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: MeBiatch
Ishkur 10% bonus to drone hit point and damage per lev
I for one would love to run 6/10s in a frigate.
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lech lizdian
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Posted - 2011.03.22 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano
Originally by: MeBiatch
Ishkur 10% bonus to drone hit point and damage per lev
I for one would love to run 6/10s in a frigate.
its not that much extra dps as you would think... 5 tech II drones now do 99 dps plus 88 dps from 3 150 rail II with faction antimater total of 187 with the new upgrade its now 149 dps now gives you a total 237 dps you are looking at a 22% increase to total dps
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.03.22 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lubomir Penev (e.g. a 200mm Wolf popping drones with 200mm ACs).
as opposed to a 200mm Wolf popping drones without 200mm ACs?
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.03.22 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: lech lizdian
Originally by: Boltorano
Originally by: MeBiatch
Ishkur 10% bonus to drone hit point and damage per lev
I for one would love to run 6/10s in a frigate.
its not that much extra dps as you would think... 5 tech II drones now do 99 dps plus 88 dps from 3 150 rail II with faction antimater total of 187 with the new upgrade its now 149 dps now gives you a total 237 dps you are looking at a 22% increase to total dps
Matches a drake.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.03.22 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult For one, they wouldn't give another 50% dps damage to the Ishkur
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lech lizdian
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Posted - 2011.03.22 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Aiwha
Originally by: lech lizdian Matches a drake.
drake does 513 dps (586 with heat) does even more with hams
the most dps you are looking at in the upgraded ishkur is 408 and thats with using heat and nuetron blaster II with all low slots using mag stabs.
plus the drake does around 2600 alpha the ishkur does 500.
AF are meant to take on crusiers and not BC.
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Sisohiv
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.03.22 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dian'h Might
Originally by: Stick Cult For one, they wouldn't give another 50% dps damage to the Ishkur
Noob question here, Is "dps damage" at all similar to "dps per second"?
Yes they are talking about damage per second. It assumes you are orbiting a brick at optimal with no AB or MWD tho. The numbers are spreadsheet numbers. |
quigibow
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Posted - 2011.03.22 13:46:00 -
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oh yes please give me the enyo!
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Metalcali
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Posted - 2011.03.23 22:33:00 -
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Just give me a second mid slot on the Retribution and I'll be happy |
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