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Julian Koll
The Kollektive
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Julian Koll on 25/03/2011 15:41:28 Discontinuing Agent Quality will only benefit those that dont their homework. Taking Motsu as one of the worst places to run missions in regards to isk/h is just a horrible argument.
Agent Quality is fine as it is.
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Mr Entity
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:42:00 -
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Damn, wines come in quick these days.
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RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:42:00 -
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now there will be kill mission hubs courier mission hubs mining mission hubs all mission hubs will move ...
not sure what AQ removal will do --
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:43:00 -
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Does this mean we get a SP REFUND for social skills for agent qualities?
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Aemmaria
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Does this mean we get a SP REFUND for social skills for agent qualities?
Valid question.
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS courier mission hubs
bot hubs? ____________________________________ Fulbert Industrialist - Casual Trader EVE Online, the best browser MMO of them all |
RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Fulbert bot hubs?
well will make right click report Bot easy then if your passing .... --
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Cory Sopapilla
Minmatar Kiroshi Group
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:49:00 -
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Hmm...yeah I'd have to disagree with this one and also throw out the question on SP refunds.
For datacore mining on all 3 char slots, I did the negotiation skill to 4 or 5.
EQ = (Agent Quality) + (5 * (Negotiation Skill)) + (Agent Standing) RP/Day = (RP each/50)*(1+EQ/100)*(Science Lvl+Agent Lvl)¦
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar JOKAS Industries Matari Legion
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Posted - 2011.03.25 15:58:00 -
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Yeah, this doesn't make sense. What a pile of steaming goat ****.
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Julian Koll
The Kollektive
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Julian Koll on 25/03/2011 16:01:56 CCP, while you're at it, make all LP Stores the same for a faction and dont stop at agent quality, kill effective quality alltogether so that security lvl doesnt influence reward anymore, so that every lazy dumb*ss will earn the same as people that actually put in some effort to find a good place to run missions at.
I for one can't complain about the 10-20 guys in local of my 60-100m/h highsec missioning place...
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 25/03/2011 16:05:12 Best mission change in ages.
Oh and OP: it means you'll have to do more homework to stay on top based on what has been reported from the roundtablesà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Frau Klaps
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:23:00 -
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lolmissionrunnersgreed ---
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Julian Koll
The Kollektive
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Julian Koll on 25/03/2011 16:29:03
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/03/2011 16:05:12 Best mission change in ages.
Oh and OP: it means you'll have to do more homework to stay on top based on what has been reported from the roundtablesà
ok, i am missing the info youre mentioning, so if you could provide a source, that would be neat. from what i heard on the keynote, it sounded that it would be a buff for those that dont do homework, since motsu was explicitly mentioned and thats a horrible place to misson, however if it should turn out that more work is required to stay on top, great, that means new opportunities, which is a good thing.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 25/03/2011 16:34:28
Originally by: Julian Koll ok, i am missing the info youre mentioning, so if you could provide a source, that would be neat. from what i heard on the keynote, it sounded that it would be a buff for those that dont do homework, since motsu was explicitly mentioned and thats a horrible place to misson, however if it should turn out that more work is required to stay on top, great, that means new opportunities, which is a good thing.
Join this conversation about what effects this will have.
Motsu is Motsu because people don't do the research. It will continue to be Motsu because people still won't do the research. Only now, that lack of research will make it even worse than it is at the moment. Research will instead yield you good agent clusters where you can hand-pick exactly what you want ù even more so with the changes to divisions mentioned. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:41:00 -
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RESTORE OURSULAERT III AS THE GALLENTE TRADE HUB!!
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Ginako
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:47:00 -
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I, for one, Welcome our new Agent Quality Overlords. __________________________________
Flying Minmatar is like falling down stairs taped to an office chair while you're firing Uzi's.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar JOKAS Industries Matari Legion
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Posted - 2011.03.25 16:49:00 -
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What what I gleened, it is effectively removing L4s from Empire by making the quality dynamic. This will impact U.S. players because the Europeans will suck the quality of the agents down to **** by the time most U.S. players get home from work to play.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.25 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Skellington What what I gleened, it is effectively removing L4s from Empire by making the quality dynamic. This will impact U.S. players because the Europeans will suck the quality of the agents down to **** by the time most U.S. players get home from work to play.
This for the most part...
...but who cares really, missioning isn't as lucrative compared to other things when looking at effort vs isk now a days... - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.25 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 25/03/2011 17:21:26
Originally by: Joe Skellington This will impact Europeans. players because the (Austral)asians will suck the quality of the agents down to **** by the time most Euro players get home from work to play.
Fix'd.
Why do you assume that it will be on a daily, DT-to-DT basis? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.25 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/03/2011 17:21:26
Originally by: Joe Skellington This will impact Europeans. players because the (Austral)asians will suck the quality of the agents down to **** by the time most Euro players get home from work to play.
Fix'd.
Why do you assume that it will be on a daily, DT-to-DT basis?
Aussies go to bed right after the servers come back up if they have jobs :P - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Malande
Amarr Solar Engineering Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.25 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/03/2011 17:21:26
Originally by: Joe Skellington This will impact Europeans. players because the (Austral)asians will suck the quality of the agents down to **** by the time most Euro players get home from work to play.
Fix'd.
Why do you assume that it will be on a daily, DT-to-DT basis?
Probably because game forums run on assumptions and they wouldn't have enough day-to-day drama if they didn't assume the worst case possible >.>
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.25 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus Aussies go to bed right after the servers come back up if they have jobs :P
Pff. Weaklings.
Ok, so we'll just have to blame the Taliban, like everyone else. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.25 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Barakkus Aussies go to bed right after the servers come back up if they have jobs :P
Pff. Weaklings.
Ok, so we'll just have to blame the Taliban, like everyone else.
lol - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.03.25 18:00:00 -
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On the sunny side: you can decently mission for all the corps that just had cr*p agents in highsec now.
And a little reimbursed SP ...
I think I'll make half a dozen of mission hubs and just travel/JC between them.
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.03.25 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Aeronwen Carys on 25/03/2011 18:30:50
Originally by: RaTTuS now there will be kill mission hubs courier mission hubs mining mission hubs all mission hubs will move ...
not sure what AQ removal will do
I am entirely certain that those "hubs" exist already. Though its true agents from a specific department do give out missions from other areas, the bulk of their missions are still grouped into one particular type. With this change they will undoubtedly move certain agents around a little, thus giving a more even spread.
It should also mean that both mission runners and those who prey on them will find things a little easier. Mission runners will no longer be jammed together in one system with the resultant heavily skewed local market and the "fish in a barrel" feeling. Conversely the salvagers and pirates that prey on the mission runners will no longer have to compete quite so heavily with others of their kind for the same resources.
While neither group wins, both groups do benefit to an extent. The other upside to this is that it will force both groups of people to spread out a little more creating more market hubs and providing industrialists with a much wider area for them to cover. I really cannot see where anyone one group wins over another or where any group loses.
EDIT: For errors
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Xercodo
Amarr Daj'Juntar
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Posted - 2011.03.25 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 25/03/2011 15:51:37
Does this mean we get a SP REFUND for social skills for agent qualities?
FYI: They removed social implant hardwires long ago.
PS: I have no problem with them rebalancing the game as long as I get Skill Point refunds for all skills affected/removed.
connections still applies to standings and effective quality and the secondary connections skills still give you more LP so.....what skills?
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Evo's Wench
Caldari Fluffy Bunny Psycho KIller Annoymous Group
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Posted - 2011.03.25 18:37:00 -
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Im ****ing myself laughing, so many of my friends have tried this game who are smart people and its to complictaed for them. With this one. Imma **** myself laughing as it makes it even harder for new players to get eve
WELL DONE CCP, SCREW YOUR GAME FOR NEW SUBS EVEN MORE
*hands down applause*
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.25 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Evo's Wench Im ****ing myself laughing, so many of my friends have tried this game who are smart people and its to complictaed for them. With this one. Imma **** myself laughing as it makes it even harder for new players to get eve
WELL DONE CCP, SCREW YOUR GAME FOR NEW SUBS EVEN MORE
*hands down applause*
Please just cancel your account already. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Xercodo
Amarr Daj'Juntar
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Posted - 2011.03.25 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Evo's Wench Im ****ing myself laughing, so many of my friends have tried this game who are smart people and its to complictaed for them. With this one. Imma **** myself laughing as it makes it even harder for new players to get eve
WELL DONE CCP, SCREW YOUR GAME FOR NEW SUBS EVEN MORE
*hands down applause*
haha i had a friend complain that this change was dumbing down EVE
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.03.25 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Julian Koll Edited by: Julian Koll on 25/03/2011 15:41:28 Discontinuing Agent Quality will only benefit those that dont their homework. Taking Motsu as one of the worst places to run missions in regards to isk/h is just a horrible argument.
Agent Quality is fine as it is.
Directly the opposite. Now one doesn't have to go to eve-agents and dotlan, two external sites, to figure out where one should mission. This is a substantial boost to intuitive gameplay and to simplify matters for new players.
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