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Commander Linski
U.N.I.T.E UNITE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.28 17:17:00 -
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Greetings Capsuleers,
My name is Commander Linski, CEO of U.N.I.T.E Corporation & UNITE Alliance. I come here to day to speak to you about a new entity within New Eden which shall offer a governing policy of moral and civil righteousness within New Eden.
As a Corporation and Alliance, we come here today to inform you that the fight against repressive regimes and exploitation of capsuleers within New Eden has been reinforced by the opening of UNITE.
UNITE shall, and will, answer the calls of the victims of crime and brutality within New Eden, and hold those responsible to account, regardless of political or cultural identify. For more information on our policies, please visit our website here
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Niraia
Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.28 18:03:00 -
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Congratulations on the formation of your organisation.
You say you offer a governing policy of moral and civil righteousness. I wonder if you could explain what you mean in more detail. I couldn't find anything on your website. I'm mostly interested in what you consider to be "righteous", given the ambiguity of the word.
You mentioned support for the fight against repressive regimes, but you don't mention any. Which do you consider to be repressive?
Good luck in your endeavour. The pursuit of universal peace, as you phrase it on your website, is most noble. -
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Commander Linski
U.N.I.T.E UNITE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.28 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Niraia Congratulations on the formation of your organisation.
You say you offer a governing policy of moral and civil righteousness. I wonder if you could explain what you mean in more detail. I couldn't find anything on your website. I'm mostly interested in what you consider to be "righteous", given the ambiguity of the word.
You mentioned support for the fight against repressive regimes, but you don't mention any. Which do you consider to be repressive?
Good luck in your endeavour. The pursuit of universal peace, as you phrase it on your website, is most noble.
We do cover in brief detail our policy, however to answer your question... 'righteous' is being used in the sense of justifiable intervention towards activities that harm the wellbeing or freedom of New Eden capsuleers. Any activity that infringes on these basic capsuleer rights will be dealt with by the most suitable and reasonable means.
Our fight against 'repressive regimes' are similar to the above, however are aimed more towards the planned, repeated doing of activities that infringe on capsuleers rights or freedoms. Our aim in this situation is to either negotiate the prevention of such acts, or resolve the situation by means of intervention.
Thank you for your support Niraia, maybe one day we shall achieve such peace.
Lin
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Propaganda Due
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Posted - 2011.03.28 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Linski ...Shall offer a governing policy of moral and civil righteousness within New Eden.
Ah, another of those kinds who thinks they have what it takes to come here and "offer" moral and righteousness, to New Eden... I hope that you have captains, money and firepower enough to backup your statement, after all who knows... I'm sure that there will be those who don't welcome pseudo heroes telling them what their morals and rightneouss concepts should be and will interprete your declaration as an annoyance to be purged exactly like many before you. You certainly don't want to attract unecessary attention, unless you are prepared to face the consequences, correct? Which I doubt that a new Organization such as yours would welcome.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Sleep with both eyes open , because one ainŠt gonna be enough... |
Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.28 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Linski resolve the situation by means of intervention.
How does one intervene with a 3 member fleet?
This reads like a declaration of war against any group that the masses may consider repressive but with no teeth to back it up. How will you deal with those 'repressive regimes' that can field military power of the sort that can overwhelm entire regions? ---------------------------- GoonWaffe is recruiting. |
Commander Linski
U.N.I.T.E UNITE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.28 18:46:00 -
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To address the above comments,
UNITE as a new organisation does not yet possess the means to hold any group accountable for their actions, however I have every belief that as time progresses our ideologies within New Eden shall grow in both detail and popularity.
Indeed, it will take more than just a fleet to eradicate an idea.
Regards,
Lin
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.28 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Leeroy McJenkins on 28/03/2011 18:59:55
Originally by: Commander Linski To address the above comments,
UNITE as a new organisation does not yet possess the means to hold any group accountable for their actions
Instant impotence.
Originally by: Commander Linski
Indeed, it will take more than just a fleet to eradicate an idea.
Indeed, it usually takes a few fleets and persistence by a wardec corp to kill an idea before it reaches fruition. Let's hope as said above you don't draw the attention of a bored high sec grief alliance (looks at orphans). ---------------------------- GoonWaffe is recruiting. |
Revan Neferis
Amarr Propaganda Due
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Linski UNITE as a new organisation does not yet possess the means to hold any group accountable for their actions
Don't worry, it's pretty much the standard real situation of capsuleers who arrives here with empty bold statements of offering "moral and civil righteousness" to New Eden. None of them have what it takes to be accontable FOR their words and they never arrive to that point because most of them feel the urge to annoy the wrong people along the way and fade to oblivion even before having the chance to let "time" operate in their favour.
It's just the way of things.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Sleep with both eyes open , because one ainŠt gonna be enough... |
Calathea Sata
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Calathea Sata on 28/03/2011 19:09:14 I've always thought that it would be a wonderful thing if SoE and CONCORD get married and give birth to a new organisation that would inherit both the commitment to humanitarian aids and the power to punish, like a real civil servant, so that it would bring a new order of security and safety in space around the cluster. However that would never happen realistically speaking. Your initiative is noble. I wish you success.
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Commander Linski
U.N.I.T.E UNITE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:10:00 -
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To further address the above comments,
Your views and expectations of what shall happen to UNITE are both taken into account, however with respect to the both of you, I ask of you to 'wait and see'. Persistance works both ways, however that debate could continue infinitely.
Regards,
Lin
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:12:00 -
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Pilot ...
... Ah, gods and spirits.
I was going to start this off with my usual bit of patter about whose morals and whose universally-applicable laws you plan on sticking down other people's necks, and then I came to this:
Quote: exploitation of capsuleers
Also, this:
Quote: wellbeing or freedom of New Eden capsuleers
Well, it's certainly good to see someone standing for the rights of the downtrodden capsuleer class. Certainly, someone has to protect the interests of the appallingly wealthy, and we certainly can't have any threats to the freedom of a class whose scope of freedom already transcends the bounds of sane public policy.
Brilliant.
Don't get me wrong, pilot: the possibility that we will get our wings clipped at some time in the future is a significant worry, but the present wave of capsuleer freedom and power has yet to crest. They're letting us own and run colonies. Colonies in empire space, even!
That's us, the people who have few lines of business more than one step removed from some sort of wetwork, the people they've so very thoroughly trained to function as the mind and soul of a ship that we've been known to deny that our ships even have crew.
Pilot, I realize your aims probably have more to do with capsuleers going after other capsuleers than actually going after national governments, but I suggest that you stop and consider the implications of the idea that protecting, say, industrialists from pirates or mercenaries is anything resembling "protecting the weak."
Considering the swath of destruction that capsuleers (in general) cut across the cluster, and that industrialists (in particular) enable, it seems to my piratical little self that hunting our own kind fits squarely under the heading of "picking on someone our own size."
In any case, good luck, pilot. You will need it, in freighter-loads.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Propaganda Due
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Linski I ask of you to 'wait and see'.
And why would enemies do that, - wait and see - ? out of ... courtesy to your twisted pseudo ideologies?
Originally by: Commander Linski however that debate could continue infinitely.
It doesn't. All it takes is a observation and a few war decs at the right time to end any debate.
This is New Eden for you, young capsuleer. There is no benefit of doubt and the path of stars is paved with good intentions just like the apocrypha concepts of hell. The wise thing for you to do is avoid complex statements like the one you did in the name of your fresh Organization.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Sleep with both eyes open , because one ainŠt gonna be enough... |
Commander Linski
U.N.I.T.E UNITE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth Pilot ...
... Ah, gods and spirits.
I was going to start this off with my usual bit of patter about whose morals and whose universally-applicable laws you plan on sticking down other people's necks, and then I came to this:
Quote: exploitation of capsuleers
Also, this:
Quote: wellbeing or freedom of New Eden capsuleers
Well, it's certainly good to see someone standing for the rights of the downtrodden capsuleer class. Certainly, someone has to protect the interests of the appallingly wealthy, and we certainly can't have any threats to the freedom of a class whose scope of freedom already transcends the bounds of sane public policy.
Brilliant.
Don't get me wrong, pilot: the possibility that we will get our wings clipped at some time in the future is a significant worry, but the present wave of capsuleer freedom and power has yet to crest. They're letting us own and run colonies. Colonies in empire space, even!
That's us, the people who have few lines of business more than one step removed from some sort of wetwork, the people they've so very thoroughly trained to function as the mind and soul of a ship that we've been known to deny that our ships even have crew.
Pilot, I realize your aims probably have more to do with capsuleers going after other capsuleers than actually going after national governments, but I suggest that you stop and consider the implications of the idea that protecting, say, industrialists from pirates or mercenaries is anything resembling "protecting the weak."
Considering the swath of destruction that capsuleers (in general) cut across the cluster, and that industrialists (in particular) enable, it seems to my piratical little self that hunting our own kind fits squarely under the heading of "picking on someone our own size."
In any case, good luck, pilot. You will need it, in freighter-loads.
I welcome your support, and advice, Aria.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 28/03/2011 19:51:10
Originally by: Commander Linski I welcome your support....
[[The post is a video of a tiny Achur woman, her espression a mask of hopeless dismay as she props her elbows on her black-lacquered desk, drops her face into her hands, and slowly shakes her head back and forth.]]
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ValentinaDLM
Minmatar Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.28 21:27:00 -
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The biggest organization that holds capsuleers back and curtails our freedoms is Concord. I do get the feeling though, that isn't your organizations intent, however it is unclear. So if you do want to go out and start at least attacking DED ships I can support that, as Concord is the only organization who on a regular basis hinders capsuleers. Sure the empires do as well, but to a far less extent, even in nullsec Concord demands payments from capsuleer organizations not "benifiting" from their protection.
I believe though, you will find little appreciation until you have at least accomplished something, to prove you have the power to carry out whatever it is you are trying to do.
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Vlad Cetes
Caldari No.Mercy Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.03.28 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Linski Greetings Capsuleers,
My name is Commander Linski, CEO of U.N.I.T.E Corporation & UNITE Alliance. I come here to day to speak to you about a new entity within New Eden which shall offer a governing policy of moral and civil righteousness within New Eden.
As a Corporation and Alliance, we come here today to inform you that the fight against repressive regimes and exploitation of capsuleers within New Eden has been reinforced by the opening of UNITE.
UNITE shall, and will, answer the calls of the victims of crime and brutality within New Eden, and hold those responsible to account, regardless of political or cultural identify. For more information on our policies, please visit our website here
Oh good, more targets. I find do-gooders tend to die easy.
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Kahar Dex
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.29 01:49:00 -
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This seems to be a carbon copy of Yulai Federation. You might have far greater efficacy if you simply consolidated under them. Their Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari is a well known and honorable man.
I'm sorry to say, that I've never heard of you Commander Linski.
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Cmdr Baxter
Caldari The Synenose Accord
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Posted - 2011.03.29 03:33:00 -
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I have trouble believing this initiative will get off the ground. Ten corporations in ten months? Been doing quite a bit of work, Commander Linski? --
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Sinjin Mokk
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.29 04:31:00 -
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Ah, leave the kid alone.
It wasn't all that long ago that many of you were just starting off with pod-juice still behind your ears. At least he's making a stand for law unlike some of his blood-swilling, waffle chomping detractors. As he is, you were once. As you are, he may be.
I wish him luck and godspeed.
He will definately need it.
New Tales of the Dark Amarr |
Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.03.29 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk waffle chomping
... I'm sorry, Mr. Mokk, I feel like I should get the joke, but ...
Could you explain?
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.03.29 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk waffle chomping detractors.
Heresy. Do not besmirch the honor of waffles.
There's no such thing as overkill, only degrees of effectiveness. |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.29 11:24:00 -
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Commander Linski,
I would like to congratulate you already in your endeavour. Good intent is half-way there, and we certainly need more capsuleers in New Eden who understand what the important issues are. The pirate and NBSI hordes of New Eden is a plague that needs to be fought.
Please do not be discouraged by the negative responses you get in the Intergalactic Summit. Personally, I am baffled that these individuals, some who even claim to be working for civilization and decency, strike down upon those such as your self, who have an apparent intent of wanting to do good.
But the fact remains, the more we are that stand up for decency, the stronger we will get. True strength lies not in the number of ships and guns we can muster, but in the resilience of our hearts. If our cause is worthy, and if we not give up, I believe we will one day be succesful in the transformation of New Eden into a galaxy that is worthy its name.
If you would like to establish relations with the Yulai Federation that operates under what it seems very similar guidelines to your own, dont be shy to join our public channel YULAI-PUB for a talk.
For New Eden, Honour and Decency!
// Codo Yagari Yulai guard CO, Yulai Federation Exec, NRDS Coalition Ambassador ____________
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Sinjin Mokk
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.29 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Originally by: Sinjin Mokk waffle chomping
... I'm sorry, Mr. Mokk, I feel like I should get the joke, but ...
Could you explain?
*points up the thread at Leeroy
New Tales of the Dark Amarr |
Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.29 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Originally by: Sinjin Mokk waffle chomping
... I'm sorry, Mr. Mokk, I feel like I should get the joke, but ...
Could you explain?
*points up the thread at Leeroy
Aren't you the pubbie who couldn't tell the difference between the true swarm and a Pandemic Legion training alliance?
Keep posting like you know what you are talking about.
Originally by: Codo Yagari True strength lies not in the number of ships and guns we can muster, but in the resilience of our hearts. If our cause is worthy, and if we not give up, I believe we will one day be succesful in the transformation of New Eden into a galaxy that is worthy its name.
You must be delusional, that is exactly where true strength lies, even the most elite force can be defeated once you stack enough ships against them. ----------------------------
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong |
Lieutenant Aia Serine
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Posted - 2011.03.29 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lieutenant Aia Serine on 29/03/2011 14:48:24
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
You must be delusional, that is exactly where true strength lies, even the most elite force can be defeated once you stack enough ships against them.
Victory can be achieved in many ways, not always how much brute force an entity has. According to our historical documents at the FNA, Goonswarm should know this well.
It will be interesting to see if Mr. Linski has the resolve to hold true to his ideals through the galaxies adversity.
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Sinjin Mokk
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.29 16:14:00 -
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See what I mean Ms. Jenneth?
A waffle with a different topping is still a waffle. A Goon by any other name would still be a goon.
Know your history kid. Remedial and Vile Rat are both GoonFleet veterans. I find it difficult to believe they're not both in the same goonish bed.
Sorry to go off-topic Commander Linski. If you're going to be making a stand, groups like Pandemic Legion and Goons of every flavor are just some of the things you're eventually going to have to go up against.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.29 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk See what I mean Ms. Jenneth?
A waffle with a different topping is still a waffle. A Goon by any other name would still be a goon.
Know your history kid. Remedial and Vile Rat are both GoonFleet veterans. I find it difficult to believe they're not both in the same goonish bed.
Sorry to go off-topic Commander Linski. If you're going to be making a stand, groups like Pandemic Legion and Goons of every flavor are just some of the things you're eventually going to have to go up against.
You sir are either a troll or just purposely delusional (leaning towards this one), I wish you luck either way.
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.03.29 17:27:00 -
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Mr. Mokk:
Ah, thank you. I still don't think I get the joke, but at least now I have an idea the sort of joke I am not getting.
Mr. Yagari:
Originally by: Codo Yagari Good intent is half-way there....
... Personally, I am baffled that these individuals, some who even claim to be working for civilization and decency, strike down upon those such as your self, who have an apparent intent of wanting to do good....
... True strength lies not in the number of ships and guns we can muster, but in the resilience of our hearts....
Why would we be less than supportive? Let's see....
One: "intent" is not "half-way" there. It hasn't even taken the first step. It hasn't even gotten out of bed!
Two: good intent without insight leads to acts of blind arrogance. There is much good to be done by and for our class, but our nature is as it is and the strategic reasoning behind NBSI remains lamentably sound. Unless and until this changes, your war will remain futile and the lives lost in it, lost in vain-- victims of an arrogant, self-righteous, and ultimately pointless crusade.
Three: resilience in a hopeless, pointless cause is commonly known as "stubbornness," among other, less-kind names.
You want to help? You want him to help? Look at New Eden. Look at it with clear eyes, unclouded; see what is, find what could be. See who is in need. See how you can help.
There are a thousand ways, a million. Perhaps a billion. This? This is not one.
Tenacity in the service of futility is no virtue. And even if your cause were not futile, the power you promote is not one that needs or can even benefit from your protection in the long run.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.03.29 17:39:00 -
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At the same time, Aria, we've all passed through some sort of crucible. It's almost a requirement for our kind. We give ourselves to the surgeons and we're implanted with all this stuff and end up wired into ships wielding the sort of power we'd never dreamed about. We all wake up the next day and wonder what we'll do. We all wake up a week later and marvel at the wealth we've already gathered. Many of us, especially those that stand out here, decide that we are going to do something. With all this power that we have, we are going to do something the likes of which no one has ever seen.
And then, of course, we are hammered down. And then we pick ourselves up and look around at the wreckage which is all that remains. At that point we start to finally understand.
UNITE may or may not amount to anything. If history is any judge, it won't. At the same time, I'm going to be curious to see what happens with these people afterward. Broken idealists tend to be interesting people.
"You've got a friend in the Cartel"
Bio and writing
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.29 17:42:00 -
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Hmm, sounds like the usual peacenik nonsense.
Any wagers as to how long the 'fight against repressive regimes' takes to specifically mean anti-Imperial and pro-Matari?
..Also no capsuleer can be 'exploited' under the current CONCORD system. They are always willing participants, so keep that in mind before you start wasting your rhetoric with regards to who you will fight for or against.
Better to pick your allies on your own terms before your group has a reputation.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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