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Terghon Tu
Amarr DarkNet Node Fanaticus
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Posted - 2011.03.28 18:57:00 -
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Based on the campaign info posted and the vote-match questionnaire, none of the elected CSM6 share my views very closely. A few, the ones with the most votes unfortunately, have opposing viewpoints to mine in most areas.
Are you going to rise up to the position and represent the playerbase regardless of your personal beliefs for EVE? Or will you press forward your own agendas, thinking the election validated your positions?
I'm not a n00b, I've been playing as long as any of you. I've sampled pretty much everything EVE can offer so telling me I don't "get it" or lack experience won't fly. But clearly most of you will disagree with what I think EVE needs, just as I disagree with what you think.
But you've been elected to represent me. Will you? ---------- The right to do something doesn't make doing it right. |
Pirokobo
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.28 19:28:00 -
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That very likely depends on what you want. If you have a rational understanding of what you think is wrong and what should be done about it then likely yes.
If you're in the windypops" hurf nerf bridges to stick it to nullsec" crowd, this is not a rational platform and unlikely to get much of a response. I say rational. Not necessarily fair. The bridge idea that united nullsec wasn't unfair, it flat out did not connect with the reason that was given to explain it. Rational ideas will find an audience even if they're unfair.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.28 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Terghon Tu
But you've been elected to represent me. Will you?
No. ---------------------------- GoonWaffe is recruiting. |
EnderCapitalG
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.28 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
Originally by: Terghon Tu
But you've been elected to represent me. Will you?
No.
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III LightBringer
The Treehugger Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.28 21:29:00 -
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so what are the 3 most important changes you want explained with maximum 217 words?
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Terghon Tu
Amarr DarkNet Node Fanaticus
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Posted - 2011.03.29 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: III LightBringer so what are the 3 most important changes you want explained with maximum 217 words?
This smacks of a flippant sarcastic response, but I'll answer anyway.
My biggest concern is orphaned or leftover content, especially PvE. When the static complexes were removed and replaced with exploration content, this was great. I think the COSMOS missions need something similar. They're very static, a linear chain with no variations. They're also not repeatable with a single character, which doesn't make sense from a resource standpoint and leads to recycling alts to farm them. More variety in missions would be great; I'd love to see 3-4x the current number of missions at every level. I'd also like to see variety within a level depending on security. Low-sec missions pay more, but it would be nice if some missions were only available in low-sec, or perhaps were much more likely to come up in lowsec.
Faction Warfare needs help. Anti-blobbing measures in any area will help here as well. At the moment, FW has many drawbacks but few reasons to participate. PvE content for FW would help, as would making flipping a system actually mean something and have consequences.
I don't think EVE is broken. I'm happy with CCP's direction and vision so far. Not everything in the game needs to interest me and I expect a good portion of various expansions to contain content I may not see for months, if ever, due to lack of interest. But there are some areas I'd like to see focused upon, and CSM is the organization that should help facilitate that.
Also as a note, I don't think null-sec is broken. Jump bridges seem fine to me. They're useful, but also somewhat fragile. I think the new Sov mechanics work well. Huge blob-fleets are still a problem. I don't think that'll ever go away. Something that helps smaller fleets be more effective, and possibly even counter a blob of up to twice its size, would be great, but not just in null-sec.
Last note: if I'd been able to get my passport processed in time, I would've run for CSM myself. I no doubt will next year. I am that engaged with EVE. ---------- The right to do something doesn't make doing it right. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.29 20:34:00 -
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the vote-match questionnaire was junk read people's actual threads
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Meissa Anunthiel
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Posted - 2011.03.29 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Meissa Anunthiel on 29/03/2011 20:38:53
Originally by: Terghon Tu
Originally by: III LightBringer so what are the 3 most important changes you want explained with maximum 217 words?
This smacks of a flippant sarcastic response, but I'll answer anyway.
My biggest concern is orphaned or leftover content, especially PvE. When the static complexes were removed and replaced with exploration content, this was great. I think the COSMOS missions need something similar. They're very static, a linear chain with no variations. They're also not repeatable with a single character, which doesn't make sense from a resource standpoint and leads to recycling alts to farm them. More variety in missions would be great; I'd love to see 3-4x the current number of missions at every level. I'd also like to see variety within a level depending on security. Low-sec missions pay more, but it would be nice if some missions were only available in low-sec, or perhaps were much more likely to come up in lowsec.
Faction Warfare needs help. Anti-blobbing measures in any area will help here as well. At the moment, FW has many drawbacks but few reasons to participate. PvE content for FW would help, as would making flipping a system actually mean something and have consequences.
I don't think EVE is broken. I'm happy with CCP's direction and vision so far. Not everything in the game needs to interest me and I expect a good portion of various expansions to contain content I may not see for months, if ever, due to lack of interest. But there are some areas I'd like to see focused upon, and CSM is the organization that should help facilitate that.
Also as a note, I don't think null-sec is broken. Jump bridges seem fine to me. They're useful, but also somewhat fragile. I think the new Sov mechanics work well. Huge blob-fleets are still a problem. I don't think that'll ever go away. Something that helps smaller fleets be more effective, and possibly even counter a blob of up to twice its size, would be great, but not just in null-sec.
Last note: if I'd been able to get my passport processed in time, I would've run for CSM myself. I no doubt will next year. I am that engaged with EVE.
Hi Terghon,
You may (or may not) have noticed that your concerns have been represented in the past (by yours truly among others), and will continue to be.
Now, a few answers (all of which you'll find in the previous CSM minutes, but given here from memory for your convenience): - COSMOS missions. We asked them to be added to, answer was that the amount of time needed to do cosmos stuff was so big CCP preferred to devote resources to other things, which is a fair point. Chance of them being built upon for the time being is minimal. (more in CSM 3 meeting minutes)
- FW does need a lot of assistance. Not just a bit, the fundamentals don't work very well (other than shooting at one another). In order to turn FW into what it should be, we'd need to ask CCP to devote at least a team exclusively to that for 6 months. Considering there's only 2 not busy with InCarna, I can't in good conscience request that until InCarna is out of the door (ie, 2nd end of the year). That said, there can be improvements requests not specifically targetted at FW that will improve FW (ie, lowsec changes). (more in CSM 4 and 5 meeting minutes) ----- Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5. Running for CSM 6 http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/ Click here to vote for me! |
Pirokobo
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.29 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Weaselior the vote-match questionnaire was junk read people's actual threads
This. It was a poorly contrived scam, hence why we didn't do it ourselves.
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Ronja Mistysdottir
The Treehugger Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.30 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Terghon Tu
Originally by: III LightBringer so what are the 3 most important changes you want explained with maximum 217 words?
This smacks of a flippant sarcastic response, but I'll answer anyway.
My biggest concern is orphaned or leftover content, especially PvE. When the static complexes were removed and replaced with exploration content, this was great. I think the COSMOS missions need something similar. They're very static, a linear chain with no variations. They're also not repeatable with a single character, which doesn't make sense from a resource standpoint and leads to recycling alts to farm them. More variety in missions would be great; I'd love to see 3-4x the current number of missions at every level. I'd also like to see variety within a level depending on security. Low-sec missions pay more, but it would be nice if some missions were only available in low-sec, or perhaps were much more likely to come up in lowsec.
Faction Warfare needs help. Anti-blobbing measures in any area will help here as well. At the moment, FW has many drawbacks but few reasons to participate. PvE content for FW would help, as would making flipping a system actually mean something and have consequences.
I don't think EVE is broken. I'm happy with CCP's direction and vision so far. Not everything in the game needs to interest me and I expect a good portion of various expansions to contain content I may not see for months, if ever, due to lack of interest. But there are some areas I'd like to see focused upon, and CSM is the organization that should help facilitate that.
Also as a note, I don't think null-sec is broken. Jump bridges seem fine to me. They're useful, but also somewhat fragile. I think the new Sov mechanics work well. Huge blob-fleets are still a problem. I don't think that'll ever go away. Something that helps smaller fleets be more effective, and possibly even counter a blob of up to twice its size, would be great, but not just in null-sec.
Last note: if I'd been able to get my passport processed in time, I would've run for CSM myself. I no doubt will next year. I am that engaged with EVE.
Cosmos missions : They are like other missions. They offer nothing other than different texts and other brackets to tank and shoot. Incursions are kind of new missions.
Faction Warfare anti blobbing?? How will you do that then? What ever they manage to fix for making 0.0 PVP work for small groups, will work for FW. Good luck coming up with anything for this that is not exploitable.
Anyway, the 0.0 reps will have no issues with 'supporting' your wishes.
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The Mittani
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Posted - 2011.03.30 17:55:00 -
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I represent my voters, not random dudes with entitlement complexes who assume that 'the playerbase' means 'ignoring everyone who voted for candidates who they personally don't like'.
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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Sleevedace
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Posted - 2011.03.30 20:45:00 -
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MY CHAIRMAN Please resize your signature to no more than 120 x 400 pixels - Adida |
Blake Zacary
Volatile Nature Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.30 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani I represent my voters, not random dudes with entitlement complexes who assume that 'the playerbase' means 'ignoring everyone who voted for candidates who they personally don't like'.
This is why the CSM in it's current form isn't as effective as it should be.We as a customer base have a great opportunity here to really make the CSM a valuable addition to the game,to make it better.CCP won't ever give the CSM any real power as long as people like yourself bring your in-game politics to the table and are only interested in representing a certain group of people.Wether people voted for you or not you are supposed to represent us all and help improve the game.This CSM so far is off to a really bad start and it looks like it'll be as useful as a chocolate teapot.....
Little reminder of what you're suppose to do.....
The purpose of the CSM is to represent society interests to CCP. This requires active engagement with the player community to master EVE issue awareness, understanding, and evaluation in the context of the ôgreatest good for the greater player baseö.
Not the greatest good for the small numbers who voted for you or the greatest good for your coalition !
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Terghon Tu
Amarr DarkNet Node Fanaticus
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Posted - 2011.03.31 00:48:00 -
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The reason I asked was that this is the first time to my knowledge there has been an organized effort by a coalition toward candidates. Did Mittani and company use their null alliances to get seats on CSM? Sure. The question is, what was the intention beyond getting seats? Was/is there any overall strategy by the null-sec people to "control" CSM? Seems unlikely, but then I would've said the same about alliances banding together behind candidates too.
Perhaps I gained a false perspective from the vote match site. I used it as one of the tools to research my vote. I also read all the summaries, and read a lot of the Jita Speakers posts as well.
I know my concerns for EVE won't be totally unrepresented, but I do wonder if CCP's outlook on what the players want will be skewed by a biased CSM with an agenda (though there's no evidence that CSM6 is biased or has an agenda). ---------- The right to do something doesn't make doing it right. |
The Mittani
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Posted - 2011.03.31 01:55:00 -
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im basically a walking talking posting hidden agenda, hth
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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Seleene
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Posted - 2011.03.31 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani im basically a walking talking posting hidden agenda, hth
I stole Page 12 of the Hidden Agenda document before I left Iceland but apparently the whole thing is just pictures of your puppy. What shenanigans is this? ----
My Blog - Where I say stuff. |
Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.03.31 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: The Mittani im basically a walking talking posting hidden agenda, hth
I stole Page 12 of the Hidden Agenda document before I left Iceland but apparently the whole thing is just pictures of your puppy. What shenanigans is this?
It's... it's a cookbook!
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CCP Veritas
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Posted - 2011.03.31 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow It's... it's a cookbook!
The guacamole recipe is particularly inspired. Who would have ever thought to put roasted garlic in?
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.31 10:54:00 -
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That just goes to show how deep the corruption is in CCP. Everybody knows that fresh garlic is what you put in guacamole.
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Paulx203
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Posted - 2011.03.31 16:37:00 -
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This should be an interesting CSM judging from this thread. Also this thread made my day. |
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Yeep
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.31 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene I stole Page 12 of the Hidden Agenda document before I left Iceland but apparently the whole thing is just pictures of your puppy. What shenanigans is this?
What you've actually got there is Mittani's "Hidden Gender" document, the two are easily confused.
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White Tree
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Posted - 2011.03.31 22:33:00 -
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I'm really really really obsessed with trying Whale Steak now... _______________________________________
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Superintendent Chalmers
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.01 09:01:00 -
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Well it looks like you'll get a chance to do exactly that, unless you ragequit.
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Vile rat
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Posted - 2011.04.01 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: White Tree I'm really really really obsessed with trying Whale Steak now...
Gross.
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Orkasm
Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.04.01 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: White Tree I'm really really really obsessed with trying Whale Steak now...
Gross.
Au Contraire, its F**kin epic. ----
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Terghon Tu
Amarr DarkNet Node Fanaticus
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Posted - 2011.04.01 16:14:00 -
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I'm not sure I WANT to be represented by someone who would substitute roasted garlic for fresh garlic on whale steak. ---------- The right to do something doesn't make doing it right. |
The Mittani
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Posted - 2011.04.02 00:20:00 -
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going to reykjavik would be worth it purely to eat the flesh of an intelligent mammal as delicious as the minkie whale, forget all the booze and the blondes wearing basically nothing and the bars open until 6am on weekends
The Mittani for CSM6 Sins of a Solar Spymaster
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Vile rat
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Posted - 2011.04.02 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani going to reykjavik would be worth it purely to eat the flesh of an intelligent mammal as delicious as the minkie whale, forget all the booze and the blondes wearing basically nothing and the bars open until 6am on weekends
gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.04.06 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Bagehi on 06/04/2011 21:52:32
Originally by: Terghon Tu stuff
If Mittani and Seleene do not spend their time educating the Devs on the mechanics and reality of null sec, I will feel like my votes were wasted. If they can convince someone to iterate on sov, I will do a happy dance.
If you didn't vote for them, they aren't representing you. HTHs.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.04.07 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bagehi If Mittani and Seleene do not spend their time educating the Devs on the mechanics and reality of null sec, I will feel like my votes were wasted. If they can convince someone to iterate on sov, I will do a happy dance.
I'm sure setting up a Teacher-Student relationship will get Mittens a lot of work done, cause the devs are just aching to be back to school.
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