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Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
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Posted - 2011.04.03 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
I'm not smacking or giving excuses, i'm giving reasons on why some players should just shut up and don't comment at all if they don't have anything contructive to say. When i say constructive, it means that you can give me good and bad criticism and points on what i can do better. Like i have said million of times here.
I can also say that you are giving excuses because you are somewhat butthurt over me for some reasons. Most of the stupid posts in this topic is from players that are mad at me because i made them angry ingame (makes me laugh).
This topic wont die as long you are posting in my topic. It's what called free bumps. Simple as that really .
Since when is "reasons" different from "excuses"?
I already gave you plenty of good advice but you just smacked me for trying to help you
I don't remember fighting you in game and I don't understand why you feel the need to believe that everyone giving you their opinion is "butthurt" about you.
I feel really bad for watching you drowning yourself, so I'll do the only thing I can do to help you: I'll stop posting in this thread, for your own good.
P.S.: MyEve needs more good videos and there's lots of good advice in this thread. Use it and pleasantly surprise us next time. ____________________________________________
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Shivalla
Gallente Financial Removal THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.04.03 23:14:00 -
[122]
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 03/04/2011 22:34:24
Originally by: Willl Adama Why are we not allowed to point out the fact that your video is crap? We might even prevent some people from wasting their time downloading it.
Do you seriously think that you can post crap on the forums and then neglect us the right to post our opinion about it? That it is your first video is no valid excuse at all, plenty of people did it right the first time around (plenty did it wrong too, but those knew how to stfu).
If it's crap for you, then it's crap for you, simple as that.
But at least give reasons for it instead of just saying it's crap.
My next movie wont get any better if you just say my movie is crap. That's what i'm all trying to get you guys to do, to tell me REASONS on why it might be crap so i actually can improve my next movie alot. SO i'm not asking this just to be an ass or something, i'm doing it for a reason.
I hope you get that into you head now.
So are you guys gonna continue to whine / smack or are you guys gonna give me some good and bad criticism and points on what i can do better?
I'll go first.
- 1) No risk PVP is boring.
- 2) When I watch a video, I want to see good or if possible, exceptional piloting skills
- 3) When I DL a video, I hope that the video itself has content that inspires, aka makes me want to either try it out aswell, or aspire for situation like that.
- 4) A video which has information regarding the opponent or allies, I wish the information to be accurate. If the information given is false, or inaccurate, it suggests that the video producer is either biased, or actually just dumb. And remember, assumption is mother of all *uckups (Propaganda videos are different story)
- 5) When video is ready and its posted on My Eve, I sincerely hope that the video uploader actually isnt complete tool who does not have the intelligence to realize that all his/her video mistakes will be pointed out, and reading about excuses after excuses usually just gets me chucking at the person in question.
- 6) Gatecamping videos disguised as "fights happening at gate" isnt really cool either. If you are gatecamping or baiting to gate, say it. Dont try to spin it to something which it is not.
- 7) Having Voice Comms in videos are cool, I love hearing the people talk, and see how they are perceiving the situation which they are in. This actually is very crucial to determing the skill of the FC and aswell give a good overall idea of how the fleet is actually prepared.
- 8) Fights with alot of power multiplier ships usually tend to be boring, since they diminish the potential of fights. (Logistics, ECM Recons mostly) That applies unless the fighting force is actually substantial smaller than the opposite which is being attacked. aka fighting undergunned/undermanned agaisnt bigger/badder foe.
- 9) If you are going to add alot of explanation into the video, please for love of god, spellcheck.
- 10) Do NOT add fights where you dont get anything killed... thats just freaking stupid.
Yours,
Shivalla
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.03 23:25:00 -
[123]
Edited by: NightmareX on 03/04/2011 23:29:15
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Originally by: NightmareX
I'm not smacking or giving excuses, i'm giving reasons on why some players should just shut up and don't comment at all if they don't have anything contructive to say. When i say constructive, it means that you can give me good and bad criticism and points on what i can do better. Like i have said million of times here.
I can also say that you are giving excuses because you are somewhat butthurt over me for some reasons. Most of the stupid posts in this topic is from players that are mad at me because i made them angry ingame (makes me laugh).
This topic wont die as long you are posting in my topic. It's what called free bumps. Simple as that really .
Since when is "reasons" different from "excuses"?
I already gave you plenty of good advice but you just smacked me for trying to help you
I don't remember fighting you in game and I don't understand why you feel the need to believe that everyone giving you their opinion is "butthurt" about you.
I feel really bad for watching you drowning yourself, so I'll do the only thing I can do to help you: I'll stop posting in this thread, for your own good.
P.S.: MyEve needs more good videos and there's lots of good advice in this thread. Use it and pleasantly surprise us next time.
I'm not just talking about you. Yes you gave some points on what i should do better. But that's not the point. The whole point is that i'm mainly talking to those who just reply to a topic with only 'yeah yeah, you sucks yadda yadda yadda'. It's those who really don't have to post here.
Instead of posting like that, i'm telling them to give me good and bad criticism. Is that so hard to do?
EDIT: Oh jeeeeezes. Even Shivalla can do the thing that many in this topic can't even do lol.
Oh also, we are moving to a new region now Shivalla, so now you can have Hagilur for you're self .
We pretty much killed Hagilur. It was just boring in the end.
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Pajama Sam
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.04.04 00:02:00 -
[124]
Downloaded to see if it was as bad as everyone is saying.
It was.
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laly illen
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Posted - 2011.04.04 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: laly illen on 04/04/2011 00:17:34 I watched your video, let me first say the editing was awesome, but the actual combat was not exciting at all.
Some tips for next time: show fights that you went into outnumbered and actually has risk involved. Fights with logis can be very fun to watch, just remember clarion call or some PL vids. But it has to be interesting, people getting saved from in deep structure, outnumbered and still coming out on top or whatever. Thats simply what people want to see. They can do the not so amazing pvp by themselves. They want to see something awesome. In any case you need to try hard to look for better fights im sure you will find them and your next video will be better.
But then again this has been said before, and i dont get why you start smacking the people that give you this advice for your next movie. You came to myeve to post a video, people said the footage was boring, crap. And they were right. Most people dont take it so seriously and learn from it. You need to realize that this is just a reaction to your video. Make a better one next time with good fights and you will recieve better feedback too.
Anyway good luck with your future videos. Captainplankface
Edit: Whoops wrong character
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Shivalla
Gallente Financial Removal THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.04.04 01:11:00 -
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Quote: We pretty much killed Hagilur. It was just boring in the end.
You pretty much killed the alliance. Not Hagilur. What happened in hagilur was gatecamping. And, now that you are leaving, I will let you in a secret. If you look at the map of Metropolis and Sinq Laison, you will probably realize that Hagilur is one of the chokepoints to the area. And if you have paid attention, you realize that The United [BL3H] camps Rancer pretty much always. That means only way into the constellations of Fribrodi and also to Hagilur, is via Hek -> Otou.
This on otherhand means that once 2 entrypoints are being camped only 1 is left as entrypoints to whole area, and that is Hadozeko. And guess what. That is also lowsec like Hagilur and Rancer, and Otou. So what you guys just did was kill your own area by gatecamping the only entrypoint into the whole area.
So in all fairness, its true, you killed hagilur, and in sense, you crapped into your own nest in that sense.
But I know what you are going to say, "you were never planning on being here anyway" and stuff like that. But fact still is, you (feardot and later scum) claimed to have moved to hagilur for good. But as is, -AA- lost too much isk and had to go farm more isk since it was not really making the members any good to gatecamp all the online time they were, and well, now Snuff Box and INFOD is leaving aswell.
I wont be missing you guys, but I must admit, that it was thoroughly entertaining.
Yours,
Shivalla
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Blaad Booyashaka
Minmatar 4 Inches Of PAIN
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Posted - 2011.04.04 01:15:00 -
[127]
Cool intro, good editing/quality, terrible content.
Picturing risk-averse ***gots baiting and blobing on a low-sec gate, hardly counts as PvP movie in my books.
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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.04 01:38:00 -
[128]
Surely you must realise that the fact every second post in this thread is you 'defending' yourself from people critiquing your video indicates that you're doing it wrong. You can argue all day if you like, it doesn't change the fact that the kind of pvp you do is not the kind that people want to watch. ------
My latest pvp video - Freestyle |
Mercurial Blood
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.04 04:52:00 -
[129]
Had this recommended to me, so I started downloading.
Read this thread while it downloaded, expected the worst.
Received the worst.
-- Merc
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 06:55:00 -
[130]
Edited by: NightmareX on 04/04/2011 07:04:08
Originally by: Shivalla
Quote: We pretty much killed Hagilur. It was just boring in the end.
You pretty much killed the alliance. Not Hagilur. What happened in hagilur was gatecamping.
Should i give you a hint?
Ok, Hagilur was almost dead even 2 weeks before AA decided to go to 0.0 space to get some more isk.
The 2 last weeks was just gatecamping and killing what's jumping in, so there was no enemies around that wanted to fight us. And we even tried to go around looking for fights, but no one was to be seen.
So it's right what you are saying, in the end it was mostly gatecamping because there was no fights to be have. We had some nice fights in Hagilur in the beginning though. And it was here i missed alot of the good fights.
Originally by: Shiroi Okami Surely you must realise that the fact every second post in this thread is you 'defending' yourself from people critiquing your video indicates that you're doing it wrong. You can argue all day if you like, it doesn't change the fact that the kind of pvp you do is not the kind that people want to watch.
Can you tell me where i'm defending me from criticism?
As far as i see, i'm defending my self from the whiners here that can't say much more than 'omg omg, you sucks and are bad'. And that's not getting criticism. So if you haven't been reading the topic, i recommend you to do so.
Saying you sucks and you are bad and giving criticism is 2 totally different things.
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Nightmare rocks
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Posted - 2011.04.04 07:00:00 -
[131]
Back to Jita Nightmarex.
Everybody ignore this guy please. He is not worth your precious time.
Trust me.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 04/04/2011 07:09:06
Originally by: Nightmare rocks Back to Jita Nightmarex.
Everybody ignore this guy please. He is not worth your precious time.
Trust me.
Back to mining with you . Well it will be hard to go back to Jita with -9.0 in sec status.
Oh, i like you're name.
And lol for posting with an alt. I bet you're balls are so small that even a microscope have problems to see it.
But thanks for the free bump though.
Now i'm off to work, so have fun while i'm away.
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PreZiDenT1
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.04.04 07:29:00 -
[133]
This is now a 101 class to everyone who wants to ruin something good and turn people against them.
Nobody cares about your intro anymore.
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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.04 08:00:00 -
[134]
Elise, Don, and Fon all gave valid criticisms, and what to do better next time kind of posts, and instead of taking it on board you just criticise the criticisms.
Like when Elise metnioned the terrible fight selection, and you responded with 'I don think they're terrible', of course you wont think theyre terrible, you made the video. Instead of raging at the people calling you a noob and criticising the people who are giving a valid critique, you should be taking their advice on board for next time, and thanking them for their trouble. ------
My latest pvp video - Freestyle |
NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 13:45:00 -
[135]
Edited by: NightmareX on 04/04/2011 13:51:34
Originally by: Shiroi Okami Elise, Don, and Fon all gave valid criticisms, and what to do better next time kind of posts, and instead of taking it on board you just criticise the criticisms.
Like when Elise metnioned the terrible fight selection, and you responded with 'I don think they're terrible', of course you wont think theyre terrible, you made the video. Instead of raging at the people calling you a noob and criticising the people who are giving a valid critique, you should be taking their advice on board for next time, and thanking them for their trouble.
Ok, i'm just gonna start with this quote that is a reply from me to Don.
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 03/04/2011 23:29:15
Originally by: Don Pellegrino Since when is "reasons" different from "excuses"?
I already gave you plenty of good advice but you just smacked me for trying to help you
I don't remember fighting you in game and I don't understand why you feel the need to believe that everyone giving you their opinion is "butthurt" about you.
I feel really bad for watching you drowning yourself, so I'll do the only thing I can do to help you: I'll stop posting in this thread, for your own good.
P.S.: MyEve needs more good videos and there's lots of good advice in this thread. Use it and pleasantly surprise us next time.
I'm not just talking about you. Yes you gave some points on what i should do better. But that's not the point. The whole point is that i'm mainly talking to those who just reply to a topic with only 'yeah yeah, you sucks yadda yadda yadda'. It's those who really don't have to post here.
See the bolded part. I said my self that i was agreeing to his points, but that it wasn't the whole point.
So like i have said, i have never really denied the criticism i have got from players here. I'm not even denying the points Shivalla came with on the earlier page.
What i was talking about, is posts like this. That's what my whole point is that posts like this is just not going to get this case any better at all.
See what i'm talking about?
Now i hope i don't have to mention that any more times, because that's what i all have been talking about for a long time now.
Originally by: PreZiDenT1 This is now a 101 class to everyone who wants to ruin something good and turn people against them.
Nobody cares about your intro anymore.
Says the empire bear that ganks noobs in high sec .
Heh, couldn't resist to say that.
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Willl Adama
Judicio Sine Misericordia
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Posted - 2011.04.04 13:59:00 -
[136]
I guess you're just too much of a ****** to understand anything at all, m8.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:05:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Willl Adama I guess you're just too much of a ****** to understand anything at all, m8.
If you don't understand what i'm talking about in my earlier post, then it's not me that are a ******.
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PreZiDenT1
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:24:00 -
[138]
Nightmarex Killboard
Just putting it out there.
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Zach Donnell
Ghost-Busters
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:55:00 -
[139]
This thread, is hilarious.
How does one become so incompetent? |
NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:59:00 -
[140]
Originally by: PreZiDenT1 Edited by: PreZiDenT1 on 04/04/2011 14:27:39 Nightmarex Killboard
Just putting it out there.
Edit: Just realised you dont have _one_ solo kill. (apart from noobships and transportships). Kinda backfires on you, dont you think?
EVE Online is a multiplayer game. So what do you expect?
And there is nothing wrong with my killboard. Good Pilot Efficiency (ISK) and little with losses. And good Damage done (ISK) for how many ships i have killed.
Amount of kills alone doesn't says much though.
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PreZiDenT1
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.04.04 15:11:00 -
[141]
For the sake of your own good im going to stop posting here. Looking forward to the next video.
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Gesadt
Mad Bombers
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Posted - 2011.04.04 15:27:00 -
[142]
never stop posting NightmareX, quite entertaining seeing you achieve new heights in self delusion. what a dumfuk.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Gesadt never stop posting NightmareX, quite entertaining seeing you achieve new heights in self delusion. what a dumfuk.
The reason i think it's funny to post more here is because there are so many that are angry or butthurt over me, like you.
Never stop poasting.
But thanks for the free bump though.
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BOOLER
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:13:00 -
[144]
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 03/04/2011 22:34:24
Originally by: Willl Adama Why are we not allowed to point out the fact that your video is crap? We might even prevent some people from wasting their time downloading it.
Do you seriously think that you can post crap on the forums and then neglect us the right to post our opinion about it? That it is your first video is no valid excuse at all, plenty of people did it right the first time around (plenty did it wrong too, but those knew how to stfu).
If it's crap for you, then it's crap for you, simple as that.
But at least give reasons for it instead of just saying it's crap.
My next movie wont get any better if you just say my movie is crap. That's what i'm all trying to get you guys to do, to tell me REASONS on why it might be crap so i actually can improve my next movie alot. SO i'm not asking this just to be an ass or something, i'm doing it for a reason.
I hope you get that into you head now.
So are you guys gonna continue to whine / smack or are you guys gonna give me some good and bad criticism and points on what i can do better?
Nightmare, I would just like to draw a line under this so that you know what the craic is: You want feedback on a vid, which is fair enough. BUT countless people in alliance GAVE you feedback and asked you not to release it for numerous reasons. Let me condense it: 1: Intro nicely done, but too long. And the text at end needed proofing and shortening by about 2 mins. 2: Fight selection poor. If you had been more active during the alliances peak times you might have got better fraps. 3: Video needed speeding up by at least 4x to make it look like something was happening.
I could go on, but im not going to bother.. Now let this thread die quietly without a whimper like it should have done days ago.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:27:00 -
[145]
Originally by: BOOLER
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 03/04/2011 22:34:24
Originally by: Willl Adama Why are we not allowed to point out the fact that your video is crap? We might even prevent some people from wasting their time downloading it.
Do you seriously think that you can post crap on the forums and then neglect us the right to post our opinion about it? That it is your first video is no valid excuse at all, plenty of people did it right the first time around (plenty did it wrong too, but those knew how to stfu).
If it's crap for you, then it's crap for you, simple as that.
But at least give reasons for it instead of just saying it's crap.
My next movie wont get any better if you just say my movie is crap. That's what i'm all trying to get you guys to do, to tell me REASONS on why it might be crap so i actually can improve my next movie alot. SO i'm not asking this just to be an ass or something, i'm doing it for a reason.
I hope you get that into you head now.
So are you guys gonna continue to whine / smack or are you guys gonna give me some good and bad criticism and points on what i can do better?
Nightmare, I would just like to draw a line under this so that you know what the craic is: You want feedback on a vid, which is fair enough. BUT countless people in alliance GAVE you feedback and asked you not to release it for numerous reasons. Let me condense it: 1: Intro nicely done, but too long. And the text at end needed proofing and shortening by about 2 mins. 2: Fight selection poor. If you had been more active during the alliances peak times you might have got better fraps. 3: Video needed speeding up by at least 4x to make it look like something was happening.
I could go on, but im not going to bother.. Now let this thread die quietly without a whimper like it should have done days ago.
What i saw was that some few peoples in the channel i was in was saying to me that everything was fine except for the titan footage. But i didn't want to take it out because of the song used and the zoom in effect on the titan did fit good together. And ofc because it was the part of our OP like i have said many times that was the whole plan of the titan bridge footage.
So i said **** it and lets see what others thinks of that, even when i gave a good explanation of that footage in my first post.
But now i have learned on what i should do and not to do in a movie. Like i have said, i live to learn and i always like to hear feedbacks on what i did wrong and so on. because when it comes to the next movie project, then i have learned what to do and not to do.
Anyways, just to say something to you're 3 points.
1. 1 minute and 18 secs long intro is not to long intro. If this had been a 10 min long video in total, then maybe it would be to long, but not to a 20 min long video.
2. True about the thing with being more active, but the problem is that alot of good fights actually happened after i was gone to bed or when i was on work. So there is absolutely nothing i could do.
3. Yeah, after seeing my video some few times, it would actually be good to have it speeded up to 300% instead of 200%, so will keep that in mind to next time.
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BOOLER
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:30:00 -
[146]
Mate, srsly. You trolling me now?
And the vid is 15 mins if you take out the intro and outro.
Let it rest
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DOCTOR OCTAGONAPUS
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:34:00 -
[147]
Guys let's keep this thread alive. It's too much fun to just let it die!
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:40:00 -
[148]
Edited by: NightmareX on 04/04/2011 16:41:00
Originally by: BOOLER Mate, srsly. You trolling me now?
And the vid is 15 mins if you take out the intro and outro.
Let it rest
Read the reply and tell me exactly what's trolling to you in my reply.
Only because i gave you a honest reply doesn't mean i'm trolling you .
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:54:00 -
[149]
Edited by: NightmareX on 04/04/2011 17:05:26 Alright, i hope by this post that everyone from now on can do the same as Shivalla did here.
Originally by: Shivalla I'll go first.
- 1) No risk PVP is boring.
- 2) When I watch a video, I want to see good or if possible, exceptional piloting skills
- 3) When I DL a video, I hope that the video itself has content that inspires, aka makes me want to either try it out aswell, or aspire for situation like that.
- 4) A video which has information regarding the opponent or allies, I wish the information to be accurate. If the information given is false, or inaccurate, it suggests that the video producer is either biased, or actually just dumb. And remember, assumption is mother of all *uckups (Propaganda videos are different story)
- 5) When video is ready and its posted on My Eve, I sincerely hope that the video uploader actually isnt complete tool who does not have the intelligence to realize that all his/her video mistakes will be pointed out, and reading about excuses after excuses usually just gets me chucking at the person in question.
- 6) Gatecamping videos disguised as "fights happening at gate" isnt really cool either. If you are gatecamping or baiting to gate, say it. Dont try to spin it to something which it is not.
- 7) Having Voice Comms in videos are cool, I love hearing the people talk, and see how they are perceiving the situation which they are in. This actually is very crucial to determing the skill of the FC and aswell give a good overall idea of how the fleet is actually prepared.
- 8) Fights with alot of power multiplier ships usually tend to be boring, since they diminish the potential of fights. (Logistics, ECM Recons mostly) That applies unless the fighting force is actually substantial smaller than the opposite which is being attacked. aka fighting undergunned/undermanned agaisnt bigger/badder foe.
- 9) If you are going to add alot of explanation into the video, please for love of god, spellcheck.
- 10) Do NOT add fights where you dont get anything killed... thats just freaking stupid.
Yours,
Shivalla
And the fun thing here is that i haven't denied ANY of his points, simply because what Shivalla did was something i wanted to see my self. I'm totally new on making PVP videos for the 'My EVE' section on the EVE forum, and did know all the time that i'm not perfect and i would do some mistakes in my movie.
And that's why the reason i wanted everyone to give me a reply like Shivalla gave me so i actually can get better at doing this. That's the whole freaking point.
But half of the players here totally failed on doing that and gave a hate / smack reply instead just to look cool.
This is all i want you guys to do, do the exact same thing as Shivalla did. The more i get of this types of replies, the chance that i'm gonna be better at making videos is going to be alot higher.
When you can do that, then i wont reply so much back as i do now because some players seems to be very angry now.
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DOCTOR OCTAGONAPUS
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Posted - 2011.04.04 17:07:00 -
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There was plenty of 'constructive' criticism on the first pages. It's because you just couldn't stfu and move on that it turned into a smack fest.
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