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K24Q
Dudliers
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Posted - 2012.08.30 09:24:00 -
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Not a lot to say here, other than to encourage more PvP make it harder to escape a site than simply warping away.
May I suggest that another on grid celestial such as an acceleration gate has to be activated to leave the site, that of course opens up missions that can be like mazes and you have to find your way out. It also makes PvE a little more risky as you can't bail 'easily' if you screwed aggro up or are ill fitted for the encounter.
I also feel that FW would benefit from complexes that are multiple warp gates with single exit and entrance.
Just my 2p.
Oh and Lag Low Local, and remove NULL
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Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA C0VEN
17
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Posted - 2012.08.30 10:07:00 -
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A. So , im new player i have my first brand new cruiser , and i do my first lvl 3 mission. I warp to site and .... OMG this is Sansha and i have Full guristas tank ... MY SHIP!
B. I make a lvl 4 mission, and my wifte call to get her from the job " Wait i cannot do that now. Im 100km of warp gate and my raven is slow as hell"
C. Have you tried warp scramblers? |
K24Q
Dudliers
7
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Posted - 2012.08.30 10:38:00 -
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A. More intel from mission briefs, maybe not solo missions how about a logistic frigate? Not to mention I know people including myself who did lose their cruiser on lvl3 mission, realised that maybe I need to move up the ship hulls.
B. So you know your wife is going to phone you and you thought you go an run a lvl4 mission, if you knew you couldn't easily get out maybe you wouldn't have tried to run the mission.
C.Generally I use disruptor and overheated and I'm still too far to catch them especially in FW sites.
I'm not saying its a perfect solution, and mission would have to be rebalanced to allow for been trapped. But more often than not, as soon as you in local they are gone, as soon as your on gate they are gone, as soon as your in pocket they are gone. Hell I do the exact same thing, because you be a fool to be caught out.
I'm not even saying you can't get out its just not instant you have to make an effort to get to the exit(s) that has to be a consideration.
As for disconnects, maybe you warp out of pocket but when you log back in you re-enter the complex.
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Sardek Nardan
Khanid Constructions
2
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Posted - 2012.08.30 10:46:00 -
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K24Q wrote:A. More intel from mission briefs, maybe not solo missions how about a logistic frigate? Not to mention I know people including myself who did lose their cruiser on lvl3 mission, realised that maybe I need to move up the ship hulls.
B. So you know your wife is going to phone you and you thought you go an run a lvl4 mission, if you knew you couldn't easily get out maybe you wouldn't have tried to run the mission.
C.Generally I use disruptor and overheated and I'm still too far to catch them especially in FW sites.
I'm not saying its a perfect solution, and mission would have to be rebalanced to allow for been trapped. But more often than not, as soon as you in local they are gone, as soon as your on gate they are gone, as soon as your in pocket they are gone. Hell I do the exact same thing, because you be a fool to be caught out.
I'm not even saying you can't get out its just not instant you have to make an effort to get to the exit(s) that has to be a consideration.
As for disconnects, maybe you warp out of pocket but when you log back in you re-enter the complex.
So basically you want even more easy riskless pvp? |
K24Q
Dudliers
7
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Posted - 2012.08.30 10:58:00 -
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Firstly More? Your having a laugh aren't you PvP in eve couldn't be any more consensual. If I am looking for dead space target here are the things you have to do.
1. Enter system, Target leaves site.. 2. Target stays, Start D-Scan, target becomes uneasy leaves site 3. Target stays in site, Find suitable distance away from target to deploy combat scanners (if possible) 4. Place scanners on suspected area. Target notice probes on D-scan and is gone. 5. Target fails to notice D-Scan, warp to target. 6. Target see you enter complex, target is gone. 7. Target is afk, woot kill.
Running mission in lowsec is just as risk less, don't confuse 'inconvenience' with risk. It boils down to the fact that most people wont run lowsec missions, because every time local blinks they have to move to safe spot or station or pos, they much rather watch a film and click a few button now and then.
Secondly I run low sec exploration and complexes I lost ships in them once, and that was done to been careless and also sticking around as it would (and turned out to be) a close fight. I could easily warped out I chose to stay.
So is anyone else going to say that this idea is just about riskless PvP. It is about PvP just providing more opportunities for it occur that is all. |
Skorpynekomimi
259
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:24:00 -
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But if you have to get to a gate to warp out of missions, NOBODY will run them in lowsec, because it's like being constantly pointed.
If you want people not to escape, learn to scan faster, and arrive with a friend in an interceptor. |
K24Q
Dudliers
7
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:13:00 -
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Silly me, that's what I have been doing wrong all this time, taking 10 seconds to scan someone out, or not going with friends, thanks for highlighting my mistakes, and your right nobody would run them because who want to risk anything making isk?
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Juniorama
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.08.30 19:17:00 -
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So you go in and you kill your mark, then what? You get killed too by the rats because you are pvp fit. Even if you don't get killed, then you are both stuck in the pocket because you still won't be able to warp out because all the rats haven't been killed and the gate is still locked. Now you and your "victim" must wait a week in the mission before it despawns from incompletion.
Seems to me you didn't think this all the way out. |
Loius Woo
PATRIOT KNIGHTS
193
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Posted - 2012.08.30 19:42:00 -
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I thought the worst thread ever was this one.
But I was wrong. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2012.08.30 20:27:00 -
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K24Q wrote:B. So you know your wife is going to phone you and you thought you go an run a lvl4 mission, if you knew you couldn't easily get out maybe you wouldn't have tried to run the mission.
That's not how they work. They call you when you least expect it. Ignoring them is generally an really, really bad idea. |
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snake pies
No Squad Best Squad
62
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Posted - 2012.08.30 20:58:00 -
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concord bubbles everywhere!!!!!! |
Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.08.30 21:04:00 -
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That should teach you Loius Woo to make bold sweeping statements like that.
People read it as a challenge. Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Ships to goo calc - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107898 |
Loius Woo
PATRIOT KNIGHTS
193
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:54:00 -
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Kusum Fawn wrote:That should teach you Loius Woo to make bold sweeping statements like that.
People read it as a challenge.
I know, right? |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
75
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:03:00 -
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Loius Woo wrote:I thought the worst thread ever was this one. But I was wrong.
Well, like they constantly said in the military, "There is always one...don't be that one." |
Loius Woo
PATRIOT KNIGHTS
193
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:05:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Loius Woo wrote:I thought the worst thread ever was this one. But I was wrong. Well, like they constantly said in the military, "There is always one...don't be that one."
We still say that.... |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
15
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:29:00 -
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posting in a solo pvp is so hard whine thread.
I will almost guarantee unless OP is all don quixote and charging any windmill he sees....he probably has a few ships on the skip over list if they come on scan based on what he is flying at the time. Which is the right thing to do no doubt, best way to avoid an obvious ass whooping is to not even step up to get that ass whooped in the first place.
Just saying whining when bears escape while at the same time not going after bait domi's in a rifter solo a bit inconsistent. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1261
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Posted - 2012.08.31 05:13:00 -
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1) CCP does this.
2) PvPers find and kill missioners and such in low/null.
3) PvPers die to NPCs/are forced to run the mission/whatever to leave.
Yeah, sounds great, |
Bobo Cindekela
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.08.31 08:23:00 -
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fit a disruptor use a recon to tackle
You are about to engage in an arguement with a forum alt,-á this is your final warning. |
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