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Grimwalius d'Antan
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.06 01:24:00 -
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I see the Federation as the equivalent of any major democratic country in the world today, and they are as ruthless and merciless as any other. The only difference is their propaganda is more efficient, so long as their hands appear clean and there is some apparent form of "justice" in their open violence (claiming self defense in aggressive wars for example). People in power are ruthless, because power belongs to those who take it, and even a picture perfect democracy is just a vehicle for ruthless politics. A perfect dictatorship is one where people believe they are free and better off than the rest of the world.
The Gallente federation will step on the weak while kissing babies for photo ops. They are evil, in equal measure but different in nature to the other three major empires. _______ Griefing is to ruin a friendly game, which Eve is not. |
Ssakaa
Minmatar Aniuu Nakitela Ia
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Posted - 2011.04.06 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ssakaa on 06/04/2011 01:38:42 Two documents that may be of use. Well worth a read.
Seriphyn Inhonores' pot-boiler
and
The excellent Hitch-hiker's by Kenreikko Valitonen.
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Dalton Vanadis
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Posted - 2011.04.06 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Tudeski
Mad? No, not mad. I simply find RP'ing LOL worthy and get quite the chuckle out of the people who do it. So yes, I am laughing at your expense.
Dude, you play an mmoRPG. You roleplay just by playing, just because others decide to actually enjoy the experience of imagination doesn't mean you need to be a prick about it to soothe your own strange issues with playing a video game based on fantasies and imagination.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.06 02:05:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 06/04/2011 02:05:56 I bascialy gave up on EvEs so called lore when they tried to do the whole idiotic "where not slavers! were just missunderstood! see were patting some of our slaves on theirs heads and are just going to be sending them of to live their own lives with a bag lunch and some cookies" healturn BS just because some group objected to the rating because one of the factions was a entire nation Idioticaly cas obcessed group of slaveowning idiot.
any more anytime something comes up to contradict EvEs lore I just chalk it up to either (a) someone being drunk off there ass when they wrote the rough draft or (b) someone somewhere whined at some rateing board over something and they pulled out some bit of crap out of there ass to say see! there wrong! Go away! its just Vitimins! .end of line.
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If you think your too paranoid to play EvE...
Then you clearly are not paranoid enough to play EvE
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.06 02:06:00 -
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"futanari" (gallente thing)
Discuss.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.06 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 06/04/2011 02:12:01 . . . that was prime exibit A of my point about Drunk off there ass. . .
Seriously they should have just purged the darn thing from the database in the first place and said "ok someone was being a joker" instead of saying that there was an entire planet of humans who Gene modified themselves into that for reasons of species survival. .end of line.
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If you think your too paranoid to play EvE...
Then you clearly are not paranoid enough to play EvE
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.04.06 03:15:00 -
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Yes, Gallente are evil. Proof that the libertines with the "underdog" mentality and preference for indirect military engagement via drones are not automatically the good guys and that the militant mega-corp gurus, a.k.a. the Caldari are not necessarily the bad guys.
And the ships are sexy. Sexy, sexy dildos of fury.
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Logan LaMort
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.06 07:00:00 -
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This is EVE, everyone is evil.
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2011.04.06 08:18:00 -
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this depends on your political views. If you are pro legalized slavery and hate democracy, then you can consider them evil (-er, than their 2 enemy factions)
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Oddymandius
Minmatar Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.06 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fredfredbug4 The Gallente are the second most technologically advanced playable race in EVE.
Confirming that Minmatar are the most advanced.
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Winters Chill
Amarr Born-2-Kill
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Posted - 2011.04.06 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dalton Vanadis
Originally by: Jim Tudeski
Mad? No, not mad. I simply find RP'ing LOL worthy and get quite the chuckle out of the people who do it. So yes, I am laughing at your expense.
Dude, you play an mmoRPG. You roleplay just by playing, just because others decide to actually enjoy the experience of imagination doesn't mean you need to be a prick about it to soothe your own strange issues with playing a video game based on fantasies and imagination.
Well put Dalton.
To quote Kevin Smith "A guy walks into a star trek convention dressed as Chewbaca, looks around and then says "Look at all these ****ing dorks"". Thats you Jim, your wearing a chewbaca costume right now.
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Ioci
Gallente Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2011.04.06 08:57:00 -
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Each race has what I would call a blind motivation. Something they believe, can't prove but believe. Minmatar were enslaved and now fly around with a paranoid chip on thier shoulder about freedom. Caldari feel Money is power and Power is security. Get rich, control the battlefield. Amarr adhere to divine afterlife motives. Gallente presume to honor individual liberty.
My original Character in EVE (This one) was made Gallente because of that. Looking at it now, I get to cherry pick. I can fight for the right to religion, the right to capitalism, the right to freedom and the right to Liberty. Or I can spin it so it's an enemy.
Truth is though, EVE is a game of corporations, not democracies or tribunals or Monestaries. Caldari are the root to EVE because of what EVE is. |
Kehro Urgus
Gallente Ab Obice Saevior
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Posted - 2011.04.06 09:07:00 -
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I read somewhere the Intaki are Caldari sympathisers.
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Sikmike
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Posted - 2011.04.06 09:29:00 -
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Gallente are scum.
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Ioci
Gallente Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2011.04.06 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sikmike Gallente are scum.
But we know how to make it look cool. |
The Old Chap
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Posted - 2011.04.06 09:35:00 -
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The whole of EVE is ebil and mean. So yes, that includes Gallente.
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Nypheas Azurai
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Posted - 2011.04.06 09:43:00 -
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Gallente are superior to any other race: 1) True democracy 2) Invented AI
Let me re-iterate: Invented AI
And not only that, (somehow?) retracted it as it become even more superior. Now maybe techmology in New Eden is judged by different standards. Maybe being able to invent awesome biotech yet still being able to cripple yourself psycho-biologically beyond what would seemingly be a simple cure for such a so-called "advanced" race, is considered pinnacle technology (really?)
But I'll say this: Anyone who knows of technology superiority knows Artificial Intelligence is the single-most and only important technological advancement that demarcate the beginning of technological singularity.
It's hard not to look "ebil" when your motives are just so much superior to your lagging special counterparts that they are simply incomprehensible.
/rp
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Juil
Gallente Phoenix Industries Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 09:49:00 -
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To me it's more like real life then anything else, every 'faction' has it's good and bad sides and to say one is scum or evil or worse then the other is really just looking at things from the wrong point of view.
from a historical view point the Caldari see the Gal Fed as being over bearing SOBS who wanted to take away their hard earned profits and colonies. (The backstory tell us this in the Chronicles) The federation saw the Caldari as greedy SOBS who didn't want to play by the same rules as every one else in the federation.. This led to a tit for tat fight one which I will point out the Caldari where kicking the ass out of the gal fed for a long time.. until they made drones. The Gal fed ended up kicking the rear out of the Caldari they fled rather then say 'hey we lost' and yeah stale mate occured..
Jump 100 - 200 yaers on and you have kinda a Palastine/Israelie thing going on where the Caldari claim that the Galente are the big bads and the Galente claim the caldari are the big bads.. only in this case it's more like Communisim/Socalism vs Democratic especially since a certain carrier rammed a certain station and a certain leader became a dictator... oh and it's kinda like the Palastines actually managed to walk into Israel and take a big part of the center of the city back ;)
Same deal goes for the Amarr, if you read the backstory they can be assoicated sooo easily with something like the Roman Catholic church of the middle ages era on earth, they are a Religious based state at the heart their ruler is considered to be the voice of god, his/her aids are the 'cardnals' etc etc.. they have done a load of 'good' in the name of their god and yet they have also done a S**T load of bad in the name of their good.. why? because their god says it's fine.
as for the change in Amarr relation to slavery well that's as explainable as our own changes, eventually PEOPLE start to question their current beliefs.. in this case one of the highest in AMARR politics and going 'hey you know these slaves might not be second rate people after all' that brings change.. real life and history is full of it.... heck the United States ended up having a Civil War because of it.
The Min's.. well they can from a pure lore view be seen as just about any Native race of slightly lower technology that has had a European or Asian Empire walk in and go 'hey guys, all you own now belongs to us, deal with it'.. In many respect they are the Native Americans, the Aboriginals, the Mouri, the African's etc of the Eve universe.. and you'll notice their history in many respects follow sections of those histories as well.
The other reason even though all this is 'fictional' history in the future that you can draw it back to modern or historical items in our own contempory world is that:
1. the people who made the universe in the first place had to draw from some where history is as good as anything. 2. History and the actions/reactions of people tend to repeat themselves over and over again, hence the old quote that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it's mistakes. - Juil Phoenix Industries
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Awesome Possum
Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lost Greybeard Gallente: good - Democracy, individual liberty, excessively capitalistic society defined by corporate-vs-individual conflict
fixed your post. ♥
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Rek Seven
Gallente Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:14:00 -
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One day the Gallante way of life will be the only way of life. It is inevitable. When you are free from slavery, rich beyond your needs and you realise that there is no God, you will become Gallente in your heart.
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chaosyourgod
Minmatar Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:21:00 -
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Gallente are France, end of discussion
the truth is but a lie |
Kehro Urgus
Gallente Ab Obice Saevior
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:33:00 -
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Mmm snails, frogs, cheese with mites.....
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Race Imperiled
Minmatar Shifty Mc. Shift Shipping
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:45:00 -
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Minmatar > Everyone else ***
For Hire. |
Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Denuo Secus
For instance in "The Empyrean Age" - Tibus Heth's reaction to anything Gallente.
Heth is allegorically Adolf ******, his rise to power figuratively the "Night of long knives", his invasion of Caldari Prime the Annexation of Austria and Pearl harbour rolled into one. The Home Guard/Gestapo, Appeasement, Peace in our time, even the humiliating defeat in a previous war of aggression.
The descriptions for Deteis and Civire are classic stereotype of Germans. The Achura the allegories of Nipponese (pre-)WW2 Japan.
The are other links in the lore, Teutonic Knights, the German States, checkout the Eve Fiction is this been extensively explored.
Originally by: Akita T
The Caldari were always more technologically advanced than the Gallente, and they only grudgingly agreed to be a part of the Federation in order to not end up having an all-out war from the start.
Not true, the Gallente were a space fairing race when they discovered the Caldari and provided them with many advanced technologies to enable them to persue space flight.
Quote: The Gallente, even then approaching foreign affairs with an air of slightly overbearing indulgence, gladly welcomed the Caldari as trading partners and shared with them many enabling technologies, allowing both civilizations to grow side-by-side in an slowly-expanding coalition of disparate societies that would soon coalesce into the Gallente Federation.
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Carey Amor
Amarr Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2011.04.06 11:09:00 -
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I really like this thread, it has got me reading chronicles.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.06 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jun Hakoke
It's to bad your argument doesn't actually carry over in game ;)
Caldari > Gallente is an obvious choice for most noob PVE players!
I fixed that for you.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Juil This led to a tit for tat fight one which I will point out the Caldari where slowly and methodically being ground into the dirt by the gal fed for a long time.. until the meddling Jovians gave capsuleeer technology to the Caldari and yeah stale mate occured..
Fixed your post for historical accuracy. Although to be fair the Federation was always bigger than the State, especially so at that time. The war was one-sided and the Caldari gave a good account of themselves to hold out as long as they did.
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Pookie McPook
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Denuo Secus Gallente are evil
No....they're just French -----
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sikmike Gallente are scum.
No, no, no. Gallente are trash. Definitely trash. By the way, real men biomass when they emoragequit.
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Elis Trader
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.06 13:49:00 -
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If you want to talk about evil, start talking about Amarr.
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