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Adonis Helios
Minmatar Everlasting Forge
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Posted - 2011.04.12 13:50:00 -
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I've had BaVixta try to rent me space in nullsec - I have to say that he nearly even had me convinced even with him being a Goon... Moral of the story - NEVER trust goons...
The following is a leak from their forums:
Look, another GIA-IED gut-job.
First, this masterpiece belongs to BaVixta. He found and lured these dumbasses to catastrophe. GIA-IED got involved to help expand his already excellent rental scam. With my input as a "third-base coach," BaVixta not only increased the scope of this, but also grabbed assets that I did not think possible.
The victims were two pubbie corps - Redefined Federation and Headshot Industries
BaVixta started the project as a basic infiltration play, finding RedFed in the gravy train that is Recruit Channel. After chatting them up a bit, he learned RedFed longed for an alliance to join/rent from. BaVixta deftly converted from infiltration to instead rent them space. RedFed's CEO seemed interested, but wanted to talk it over a bit with his 2nd in command.
The next day, he found this message:
Quote"Talked to my second in command and he practically slapped me for not jumping on this opportunity. Would like to talk to you more about it, will be on later tonight. Talk to you soon, Chaos"
So our new friends are interested; excellent! Not only interested, but they're interested NOW. A simple rental agreement covering 85-B52 for 2.5 billion/month works fine.
At this point, RedFed brings in its sister corporation (Headshot Industries) to make this a 2 corp deal. But there's a small problemà
Headshot was in some random alliance of jackholes and pubbie ***gots. After a falling out, Headshot packed their toys in a Fenrir, and headed to Empire. Along the way, the Fenrir gets "trapped" in Jorund, an NPC system in Curse. Smelling blood in the water, BaVixta tells them how to rescue that Fenrir.
Enter Tamir Lenk. I cautiously offer to draw on some super secret (read: fictional) GIA operatives in Initiative Mercenaries, the alliance camping the Fenrir into the station. Why of course, I can have my enigmatic agent fly their stuff out. Helpful Tamir is helpful.
In their TS, I spin wonderful tales about shadowy organizations within the GIA, and agents seeded throughout the universe, sleeper cells, double-blind ops, yadda, yadda. These dumb ****s gobble that **** up.
Then I suggested that BaVixta explore transporting their assets. With their newly misplaced trust, out come their e-peens, linking various high-end ratting and missioning ships -- Nightmares, Rattlesnakes, and a Widow. By the time the convo was over, we saw the potential for a lot more than 2.5 billion in rent. Candidly, I never expected these idiots to hand over such shiny toys, if only out of typical fear of null-sec.
BaVixta, on the other hand, goes where angels fear to tread.
BaVixta then explains that the integration process could be streamlinesd by inserting a character into each corp to serve as a liason and contract the equipment they needed moved to nullsec, and make sure that their internal corp standings to GSF, etc. were correctly set.
"Great idea! What roles do you need?" "No problem, just give me Director, and you can strip the roles after we're done with the move."
In minutes, BaVixta had access to wallet divisions, corporate hangars, and most importantly, RedFed's shares, untouched and lonely in the ****ing master wallet.
BaVixta knocks out some 'official paperwork' and sets a move date. These ******s start collecting assets in Torrinos to stage for transport to nullsec. The total value of goods placed quickly exceeded 10 Billion. This was beginning to look like a great haul.
A day later, RedFed's CEO announces that he is actively recruiting a guy with 3 supercap characters, including an Avatar pilot, and supercap builder. We decided we would see if we could him and maybe some supercaps. Sadly, this pilot had skills but no ships or BPOs. He did, however, have a Chimera.
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Adonis Helios
Minmatar Everlasting Forge
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Posted - 2011.04.12 13:52:00 -
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Indeed, these morons had a Rorqual and 2 Chimeras. But Tamir, why would anyone, even the dumbest pubbie, hand over a capital ship to us? Can't they just fly that bad boy out themselves? Easy.
"What kind of cap skills do you have?" "JDC 4," *sigh* "Our cyno routes are designed for JDC5." "B-b-but that is a 30-day train." "We really should not postpone this for 30 days . . . " "Hey! Could you guys help us move them?" "That's a pretty good idea. Let me check on that for you . . . "
With director roles in both corps, I tell BaVixta to insert a few sleepers to collect **** after the scam and pull the rug out if they manage to rebuild. The sleepers get full hangar/corp access via individual roles, for a rainy day.
With RedFed shares and Headshot sleepers we decide to cut the head off RedFed and watch the pubbies flee to Headshot.
Saturday Night. Approximately 30 members assembled in their T1 frigates giddy to move to their new home. I get a TEST fleet (hoping to cloud the scam under a "standings mishap") to camp EC-P8R.
BaVixta set RedFed's and Headshot's internal standings so GSF and TEST appeared blue. They were butchered, including a particularly expensive Dramiel.
During the chaos, BaVixta became RedFed's CEO, emptied the remainder of the corp wallet, gave bul**** roles to the RedFed members (to keep them in corp for another 24hrs) and cranked the tax to 100%.
Total haul is between 15-20 billion, including:
Nightmare 2 Rattlesnakes 2 Chimeras Rorqual Widow Fenrir
Here is one sexy picture: Posted Image
Stay tuned for chat logs and maybe TS audio.
Quote(7:42:38 PM) Cap: tamir so help me god i'll punch you through the internet
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TheSpamMan Doshu
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Posted - 2011.04.12 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: TheSpamMan Doshu on 12/04/2011 14:13:12 Punch you through the internet?
I'd shake your hand good sir!
Edit: and may i add 1st
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Adonis Helios
Minmatar Everlasting Forge
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Posted - 2011.04.12 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Adonis Helios on 12/04/2011 14:35:39 Honestly, I don't mind Goonswarm at all.
I'm just sick and tired of all these damn rental scams - makes it REALLY hard to trust ANY renter at all even if they're not Goonswarm
Rule of thumb for people in the market - ALWAYS ask a diplomat. Most, if not all, allainces will not allow a diplomat to lie regarding such matters.
BaVixta gave me the bit about Vile Rat(Goonswarm Diplo), saying that he won't confirm if Goonswarm was renting because they try to keep it under wraps etc.
Don't ever believe something like that... You're investing billions of ISK into their space, they'll want to let you know it's not a scam if it isn't. If you can't trust anything, walk away.
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Batelle
do you
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Posted - 2011.04.12 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Batelle on 12/04/2011 14:47:58 I can't believe people still fall for this ****.
EDIT: Actually, I can.
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Rgarcia
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Posted - 2011.04.12 17:06:00 -
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And yet these are the people Eve voted to be in the CSM. And the head of the CSM is the chief of them. Good job Eve.
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Citizen20100211442
Minmatar Carebear Evolution White Angels.
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Posted - 2011.04.12 17:16:00 -
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With juice you'll allways lose
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Deen Wispa
Gallente Roughneck Regulators
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Posted - 2011.04.12 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rgarcia And yet these are the people Eve voted to be in the CSM. And the head of the CSM is the chief of them. Good job Eve.
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Marcella Moreau
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.12 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Marcella Moreau on 12/04/2011 18:44:03 *Zzzzzzzzzzz...snort...* Wakes up on hearing the beating of wings and looks up.* Oh...the Goonie-birds are up and about I see...
*Pulls giant tarp over body, rolls over, and goes back to sleep*
*Zzzzzzzzz...snort...snurf...*
Let this be a lesson--always have a tarp or big umbrella when goonie-birds are flying.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." Groucho Marx |
Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.12 19:17:00 -
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I think everyone knows better by now not to trust a goon? I mean GOON its not like they are ANGELs they are GOONs.....
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Adonis Helios
Minmatar Everlasting Forge
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Posted - 2011.04.12 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jonasan Mikio I think everyone knows better by now not to trust a goon? I mean GOON its not like they are ANGELs they are GOONs.....
You underestimate their abilities to scam(I'll give em credit for it), people's desperation, and idiocy.
Not everyone has had these experiences with them yet and don't learn from other's mistakes.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.04.12 19:58:00 -
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Nice haul. Credit where credit's due.
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Griznatch
Gallente Xicron Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.12 20:09:00 -
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its not as if the front page of thier web site has a big ass warning about scams on it
oh wait...
Quote: whats a signature?
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.12 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jonasan Mikio I think everyone knows better by now not to trust a goon? I mean GOON its not like they are ANGELs they are GOONs.....
You can trust me.
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.12 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
Originally by: Jonasan Mikio I think everyone knows better by now not to trust a goon? I mean GOON its not like they are ANGELs they are GOONs.....
You can trust me.
Confirming you can trust this man.
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Aldo Bridger
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Posted - 2011.04.12 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
You can trust me.
Confirming you can trust this man.
Sounds like a legitimate fellow.
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Pineapple Squatsauce
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Posted - 2011.04.12 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Aldo Bridger
Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
You can trust me.
Confirming you can trust this man.
Sounds like a legitimate fellow.
He does sound pretty legit. Should I just hand him all of my ISK? Or should I put it all in my internets spaceship and give him that? I must be the smartest n00b in all of EVEs!
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.04.13 06:31:00 -
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Geez....
What can i say? Always be in an alliance before renting. if not in an alliance, get into one that is already out there.
Make sure you are a member of the alliance before you leave for 0.0, war decs be damned.
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.04.13 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins You can trust me.
Confirming you can trust this man.
"I see your party...has no wizard."
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Viktor Villiance
Caldari Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.04.13 06:39:00 -
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Cool story, bro. It was once thought that man could be trusted with the keys to his own destiny, but as it turns out, that destiny was to forever deny himself entry to that fate from the futile effort of ever-lasting |
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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.04.13 12:29:00 -
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Ahh... I remember back in the day when being a goon meant something...
Today it's just as bunch of throwbacks from something awful and second life.
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Montgomery Crabapple
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Posted - 2011.04.13 16:40:00 -
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So, OP and friends are sociopaths.
Congratulations.
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Syndryna
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Posted - 2011.04.13 19:54:00 -
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You just gotta give credit to the Goons. They continually are able to prey on the dumbest in Eve and it works so often. It's not their fault if people are dumb.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.04.14 02:20:00 -
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This has been going on since 2003.
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Phione
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.04.14 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Syndryna You just gotta give credit to the Goons. They continually are able to prey on the dumbest in Eve and it works so often. It's not their fault if people are dumb.
Trusting and Dumb are 2 seperate things.... The Ironic part of these schemes is they pray on some of the wealthiest most industrious individuals of EVE.
It sometimes make you wonder, what if the Goons actually incorporated these financial resources into their structure...
But if you are a Goon (and its not just the goons), you reap reward from inflicting grief and misery... Honestly most of them can care less about the ISK
I do know for a fact, they just LOVE threads like this....
I also know for a fact. When a Goon pilot is permanetly poded, or their account has been cancelled. An Angel in Heaven Chuckles a little..
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Cephelange du'Krevviq
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Posted - 2011.04.14 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Griznatch its not as if the front page of their web site has a big ass warning about scams on it
oh wait...
Stop drooling, Griz...
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