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Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:21:00 -
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BolsterBomb wrote:Yuri Intaki wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote:I really wish most of the bitter vets would leave CalMil and let the new guards take over. If we are, as you say, irrelevant bitter people in small corps, then how come it is possible that supposedly we are to fault about the whole sorry situation you find yourself in? Because the bitter vets 3itch the loudest and cause the most internal upset. I have chat logs of MANY MANY bittervets telling people that I am a gallente spy as well as the other Kraken leadership. Lots of chat logs. Anyone that actually had weight was deemed a spy and was spread throughout other channels. All it takes in a militia is to get the little irrelevant corps to start causing rakus to disrupt the whole boat. Which is what they did. Have a couple bitter vets start spreading rumors that Bolsterbomb is making isk hand over fist off the militia and then have one sorry reject (dragon sn1per) take it to an extreme to DDOS a team speak server that the entire militia used. Its like putting the bullet in the gun and handing it to the guy while whispering in his ear "do it, he deserves it, do it..." You can say you didnt do it but the bitter vets caused enough of a problem to disrupt the norm. Just as an example: One bitter vet trolled the heck out of the intel channel over something his corpmate did, in the meantime one bitter vet came online (the only admin..hint hint...) banned half of militia from the channel. In all the items that were setup by myself for the militia there were no less then 6 Admins that had access to all roles and user granted privileges. Including people I think are the biggest bitter *ickhead vets out there All it takes in militia is for several guys to cross their arms and plant their feet to start problems. It isnt that they can cause the disruption by themself, its that they cause the wave of disruption. When people see this it is a ripple effect. If they arent going to do it, neither am I and so forth. Anyone can destroy a militia easily. You can be one person that simply has a voice and all goes down the crapper. That is how the disruption of cal mil occured. The bitter vets are simply bitter vets and will always be the problem. As an ex gallente that is one thing I see the difference in. Cal Mil bitter vets would rather sit in their single system and do what they want complaining and 3itching at the others while doing nothing. I can rattle off their names and several examples but it would do no good. I am simply grateful that in 2 months cal mil wont need them. Bitter Vets can go sit in their hole and complain that "Big Bad Bolster is mean" Just for kicks. Just as an example. These bitter vets were mad because when kraken alliance was created all the people with a brain and all the people that lead fleets went over. The bitter vets were pissed, because no one was left to direct the lemmings. They did all sorts of stuff to disrupt the entire cal mil over it. They had these p1ss ant corps up in arms because they didnt have any fcs. My response now, awwww you dont have an FC in your corp. Sounds like you need a new corp. Awww your ceo wasnt involved in the planning. Sounds like you need a new corp. Even when nthe forums were up and I had all militia ceos access to vote on what direction the militia should go CEOS wouldnt participate, but they sure liked to 3itch about it later. Welcome to Cal Mil
Best. Battlereport. Ever !
Come home Bolster. You've completed the job we assigned to you .
Dopified and the rest of us will be eagerly awaiting your arrival with a welcome home party ! Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog C'est La Eve :) |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
473
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:30:00 -
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Bolsterbomb wrote:I have chat logs of MANY MANY bittervets telling people that I am a gallente spy as well as the other Kraken leadership.
I dare you to post the chatlogs. In fact, I double dare you.
Quote:I can rattle off their names and several examples
I triple dare you to rattle off those names and provide examples. TRIPLE DARE! |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
323
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:30:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Bolsterbomb wrote:I have chat logs of MANY MANY bittervets telling people that I am a gallente spy as well as the other Kraken leadership. I dare you to post the chatlogs. In fact, I double dare you.
Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on. Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog C'est La Eve :) |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
473
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:33:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on. I am disrespect. |
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
10
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:38:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on. I am disrespect.
Removing roles. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
473
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:39:00 -
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Juan Rayo wrote:Removing roles. Application to Frog Steamers submitted. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
251
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:51:00 -
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BolsterBomb wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: Thing is that those vets have seen a lot of things before, many internal wardec and drama before, those vets have just what you ask to do, they usually have FC of their own, they have woking concepts for different things. They do not really want to participate every new try to do something else than just play FW.
You are not any special Bolsterbomb, you faced same problems than everybody else who tried to do same things before, and you could not solve those problems.
If you want to unite whole militia it requires lot of more than you have done.
And it starts by sending all bitter vets to amar.
Maybe it is easier to send you to amarr, there is not left much old vets |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
324
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:05:00 -
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Juan Rayo wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on. I am disrespect. Removing roles.
If XG goes, so goes Wispa.
Wispa + Xg + Bolster = Big Playz !
We just need to get Gavin back. Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog C'est La Eve :) |
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
10
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:11:00 -
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http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2760/galmiltackler4.jpg |
BolsterBomb
Frog Steamers
120
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:35:00 -
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Juan Rayo wrote:http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2760/galmiltackler4.jpg
epic Brig General of The Caldari State
Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation |
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
8
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Posted - 2012.09.05 22:13:00 -
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Nahzgul was in short shorts when he joined dark and only slightly longer ones when he left. FW was however just a twinkle in a devs eye ;)
just because your paranoid, doesn't mean there not after you ;)
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Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
324
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Posted - 2012.09.06 00:10:00 -
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Juan Rayo wrote:http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2760/galmiltackler4.jpg
You forgot to include the headliner, "Gal Mil Alt Corp, Happy Endings, Forces Eha Militia To Failcascade"
Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog C'est La Eve :) |
Major Killz
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
66
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Posted - 2012.09.06 02:07:00 -
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Well someone in this thread is pretty naive if they believe any of the other milltia's are REALLY organized (Caldari milltia is not alone). Infact, there's always pilots hating on the most powerful or well organized corporations and alliances. I've been in 3 of the 4 milltias since factional warfare began and I must say the "politics" are often the same. Which is why I have no interest in it. Most of the people talking (politics) are weak anyways. Which is why they rely on words and whatever form of diplomacy (standing) to make up for lack of ability.
I've only ever done 1 thing that could be considered weak in this milltia as far as diplomacy and this alliance is a result. Relations with other entites in the milltia are not important . As long as you're not firing @ each other. Why should anyone care what the other dude is doing or have anytime to hate? Everyone should just be pvping and destroying enemy ships...
Also, Damar and BM are paranoid. What of it? I find the aforementioned endearing = ) Plus they often say and do things that has been getting players angry for years v0v
Anyway. Doubt these changes will effect the Gallente, so I'm good with it so far. However, Caldari may lose alot of corporations and some alliance due to these changes. I understand BM's interest in CCP forcing some kind of reason for us to fight, but I know alot of corporations/alliances develop thier own reasons to fight (not suprising?). Which has alot to do with lack of organization (diffirent interest). There will never be enough dedicated faction corporations/alliances, because factional warfare is just 1 small aspect of this game. There are still bigger, better things an entity can achieve outside of factional warfare.
For this corporation. The reason for joining was to improve the experience and ability of our pilots. Isk/LP was not factored into that decision. However, Lp/Isk was stated as a benifit. I still believe factional warfare is a good place to produce good pilots in a short amount of time. So yes! Using Caldari milltia and factional warfare to become stronger (suprising, I know).
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Dread Operative
Justified Chaos
14
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Posted - 2012.09.06 06:12:00 -
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Best. Thread. Ever. |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
324
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Posted - 2012.09.06 06:32:00 -
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*popcorn* |
Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch
60
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Posted - 2012.09.06 08:25:00 -
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This is why we all love Caldari militia. It's the GoT's north. Too big, savage and unruly to be commanded by a single man. Everyone should join our ranks and become as hairy, cool, beer guzzling savages as us |
Poison Ivvy
Astra Enterprises Happy Endings
35
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:49:00 -
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Yo guys we are totally Gall alts!!!
I-¦m just loling at Damars latest attempt to get some attention :) May we have a long and fruitfull war, here in HE we are patient I hope I-¦ll break your year and half record time war so we can take special spot in all of Naery-¦s minds.
Now back to loling at all this drama that we could care less for :) We be here for the awesome pew epw and ty to Galls for never dissapointing HE in that aspect keep good fight coming!
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
473
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Posted - 2012.09.06 15:24:00 -
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Two prominent members of the Caldari have been dared to post text of internal Caldari affairs as proof of conflict - I say DOUBLE dared, and even once triple dared. And.... nothing.
I can only conclude this drama is a Caldari militia conspiracy to divert attention from discussing CCP's proposed mechanics that will essentially favor the vast minions of Caldari (soon to become defensive) plexing alts. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
251
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Posted - 2012.09.06 15:40:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Two prominent members of the Caldari have been dared to post text of internal Caldari affairs as proof of conflict - I say DOUBLE dared, and even once triple dared. And.... nothing.
I can only conclude this drama is a Caldari militia conspiracy to divert attention from discussing CCP's proposed mechanics that will essentially favor the vast minions of Caldari (soon to become defensive) plexing alts.
I do not know about that, internal wardecs are used strategy in militia so this issue fits fine in this thread. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
251
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Posted - 2012.09.06 15:44:00 -
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Poison Ivvy wrote:Yo guys we are totally Gall alts!!!
I-¦m just loling at Damars latest attempt to get some attention :) May we have a long and fruitfull war, here in HE we are patient I hope I-¦ll break your year and half record time war so we can take special spot in all of Naery-¦s minds.
Now back to loling at all this drama that we could care less for :) We be here for the awesome pew epw and ty to Galls for never dissapointing HE in that aspect keep good fight coming!
It was some bitter caldari militia alt who started to talk about your wardec in here. |
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Bob TSlob
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
4
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:57:00 -
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Poison Ivvy wrote:Yo guys we are totally Gall alts!!!
Confirming that we are DEFINATELY Gal alts. I still can't believe that hotdrop we faked when an entire Gal cap fleet was wiped out made ANYONE think we fought for the Cal Mil.
Also, BB, keep up the good work bro. I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would willingly do what you do, but you do it AND get results. +1 |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
473
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Posted - 2012.09.06 17:30:00 -
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Bob TSlob wrote:Confirming that we are DEFINATELY Gal alts. I still can't believe that hotdrop we faked when an entire Gal cap fleet was wiped out made ANYONE think we fought for the Cal Mil.
Well done gentlemen. Mission accomplished.
The complete collapse of the Caldari militia made the cost of this deception well worth the price. We were happy to contribute to the fund. Happy Endings can keep Rakapas as a bonus, and feel free to roflstomp Fweddit when you return to Gallente Militia.
Bolster, for your part your bonus is waiting for you in Vlillirier. I hope you like lots of Navy Domis and Fed Navy Webs.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
201
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Posted - 2012.09.06 23:33:00 -
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Thank god the hair is back! |
Nahzgul
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
3
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Posted - 2012.09.06 23:57:00 -
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This has been an interesting read |
Nahzgul
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
3
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Posted - 2012.09.07 00:02:00 -
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Mitch Taylor wrote:Nahzgul was in short shorts when he joined dark and only slightly longer ones when he left. FW was however just a twinkle in a devs eye ;)
just because your paranoid, doesn't mean there not after you ;)
I LOL'd in RL at this. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
475
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Posted - 2012.09.07 00:05:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Thank god the hair is back! I will cut it off again if you return to game. JUSTK is going toe-to-toe with QCATS on the kbs right now. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
201
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Posted - 2012.09.07 03:42:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:chatgris wrote:Thank god the hair is back! I will cut it off again if you return to game. JUSTK is going toe-to-toe with QCATS on the kbs right now.
Well, you can rest assured that I am OOG for at least two more weeks :( Even Nexx has overtaken my rank on BC (I was barely able to stay ahead when I was active).
But now that the gauntlet has been thrown, I'm looking forward to the challenge (if not the haircut) when I return! Raw kills, BC points, ISK destroyed will provide lots of metrics for fun competition and chest beating :) |
Manji Lee
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
57
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Posted - 2012.09.07 05:25:00 -
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Poison Ivvy wrote:Yo guys we are totally Gall alts!!!
I-¦m just loling at Damars latest attempt to get some attention :) May we have a long and fruitfull war, here in HE we are patient I hope I-¦ll break your year and half record time war so we can take special spot in all of Naery-¦s minds.
Now back to loling at all this drama that we could care less for :) We be here for the awesome pew epw and ty to Galls for never dissapointing HE in that aspect keep good fight coming!
And before I know it... You be Burn FW... : |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
51
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Posted - 2012.09.07 06:55:00 -
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Glad I don't get too involved in this ****.
I saw we were at war with another CalMil corp - but meh - just a few more turds in the sewer.
Let em waste their isk on dec fees.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
55
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Posted - 2012.09.07 07:41:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:with new rules you can stop clock just by being in side plex, so using max speed fitted T1 frigate is quite good, you orbit timer and defend, when enemy enters you take 150km orbit or more and avoid enemy.
Because enemy needs some ship that can tank and kill npc it is most unlikely that he will never catch you alone.
just wait that he leaves and return to timer.
This is so classic of the EvE playerbase: Out looking for new ways to break a game mechanic before it's even introduced.
How many times does this pattern repeat itself? CCP introduces something new and interesting. They have a plan for how it will work. Ten seconds later the playerbase find a way to game/exploit/break the new thing, with the general theme of removing all risk and getting ten times the ISK out of it than was ever originally intended. When CCP finally gets around to fixing the easily exploited mechanics the playerbase then all starts crying "Wah! You're taking away my freedom! Sandbox something sandbox!"
The reality is simple: CCP creates a sandbox, the players then use it for a litterbox and then wonder why their "freedom of choice" keeps getting taken away. A good rule for MMOs in general is "Don't make the Devs your enemy." Yet for the EvE playerbase, the Devs are apparently seen as some kind of boss monster that you have to defeat to get the best loot.
At this point I would not be surprised if CCP simply removed FW entirely, since it's obvious that not enough people have any intentions of using it responsibly.
When will we learn? |
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