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Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:01:00 -
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What the hell is going on with the Eve economy? Prices are going through the roof.
HICs now cost 200M isk, they used to be about 130M. Interceptors cost 20M isk, they used to cost 7-10M Sabres are 47M isk, they used to be <30M
One the other side of the coin for those living in nullsec making isk is getting harder.
Twice as many poeple crammed into the same amount of space so reduced income from ratting and exploration. Faction tower mod drops gone. Officer spawns buffed to the point that they can't be soloed by ninja ratters. Nerfed anomalies.
Add into the cost of a ship loss 20M isk for a no-implant clone for a skilled char and it's reaching the point where I can hardly be arsed to log in and PvP anymore because I've got better things to do than grind for hours in 5hite overpopulated nullsec to replace a bog standard T2 frig or dictor.
Does this p1ss off anyone else as much as it does me?
Any chance of an improvement in the situation on the horizon?
P.S. This is not a stealth anomally nerf whine thread. Personally I don't really have a view on whether the anomally nerf is a good or bad change. Although those folks who dropped 30B isk outposts in space that's now worthless should really be entitled to a refund imo.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Neutrino Sunset What the hell is going on with the Eve economy? Prices are going through the roof.
HICs now cost 200M isk, they used to be about 130M. Interceptors cost 20M isk, they used to cost 7-10M Sabres are 47M isk, they used to be <30M
One the other side of the coin for those living in nullsec making isk is getting harder.
Twice as many poeple crammed into the same amount of space so reduced income from ratting and exploration. Faction tower mod drops gone. Officer spawns buffed to the point that they can't be soloed by ninja ratters. Nerfed anomalies.
Add into the cost of a ship loss 20M isk for a no-implant clone for a skilled char and it's reaching the point where I can hardly be arsed to log in and PvP anymore because I've got better things to do than grind for hours in 5hite overpopulated nullsec to replace a bog standard T2 frig or dictor.
Does this p1ss off anyone else as much as it does me?
Any chance of an improvement in the situation on the horizon?
P.S. This is not a stealth anomally nerf whine thread. Personally I don't really have a view on whether the anomally nerf is a good or bad change. Although those folks who dropped 30B isk outposts in space that's now worthless should really be entitled to a refund imo.
loooooool
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Laentilny Evingod
Minmatar House Hasib
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:11:00 -
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Your remark is very well explained in this thread.
CPP hired an economic,(Dr. Eggnjogg or something) that has one objective:
creating a situation that you need CCP's ISK and pay CCP your $$.
How's that for economics.
Or you could ofcourse PvP in rifters for the time being
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Borun Tal
Minmatar Space Pods Inc
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:14:00 -
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1. Buy Rifter BPO 2. Make copies for invention; build Wolf. 3. Fit with T2 guns 4. ?? 5. Profit
Result of #5: no more whining on the Forums.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:24:00 -
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Blame NC. Or blame it on the increased ease of making ISK. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Outouchmatralala
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:27:00 -
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noob. back in the day, **** costed way more than what is now. Besides FW misssions make **** tons of money, if you were any bit of smart, you'ld join it and exploit the crap outta them before they get nurfed
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Florestan Bronstein
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:31:00 -
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Just sell PLEX for ISK (and fund subscription for a bot or two by doing this).
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:32:00 -
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They only need to nerf the cost of T1 cruisers and battlecruisers, then EVE (PvP) will truely be dead because you can no longer "Fly what you can afford". Hit the insurance with a nerf stick, change cruiser loot drops, nerf the hurricane and drake. Accelerate the problem already and get it over with
Haven't even wanted to run a mission for nearly 3 months now because you need to work harder by running more (yet it hasn't really changed) and no reason to PVP (fit ship, fly three jumps into lowsec, BANG! more time wasted preparing then ROI on using it). I just hit a wall and lost interest in EVE, giving it till summer or so when the PLEX run out then see if I find any reason to stick around that doesn't include Barbie Doll House in Space or DUST514: Black OPs. Only other thing to look forward to is the free ship they give out around christmas, not like they are going to follow through on the commintment to upgrading ship graphics since the Scorpion. Yeah, I am bitter and bored right now as Incarna has zero interest for me .
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Holy One
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:33:00 -
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not a lot of pvp going on anyways now. summer + incursion failscade.
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
Zerp Metesur
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Outouchmatralala ccp altering faction warfare in any way
hahaha oh you
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Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Neutrino Sunset Nerfed anomalies.
Why are you whining about CCP trying to remedy the situation you're complaining about?
Prices go up because there's too many ISK in circulation...
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Jengi Gotsen
Gallente BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jengi Gotsen on 22/04/2011 16:00:26 Back in my day, we didn't complain about the bots that gave us cheap minerals to build ships.
Now you kids are reporting them and jacking with the prices. Be careful what you wish for.
Edit: this is should sound more 'crotchety old man' and less 'bitter russian bro.' Read it in the voice of a crotchety old man, okay?
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Khanya Trace
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Posted - 2011.04.22 16:03:00 -
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OP, read this http://www.amazon.com/Enemy-State-F-Paul-Wilson/dp/1588810151 and understand.
If the ano nerf was such a big deal, prices will go down again. Giving players more ISK will not solve anything because ISK has no real value and if there is more isk in circulation, prices of ships will just climb. Only real solution is to banhammer all bots constantly. At least the combat bots, the mining bots can stay.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.04.22 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Neutrino Sunset
Interceptors cost 20M isk, they used to cost 7-10M
Interceptors have cost more than 10 million for near enough 3 years. A friend had the Claw BPO for a while and the base cost was 9.5mill or so. That was the best part of two years ago. I bought 5 Taranis in M-M about a month ago for 14.3 mill a pop so dunno what you're on about.
Sabres have been stupidly priced (35mill+) for 18 months. If you were getting them cheaper then you had a buddy doing invention.
HICs - Again they've been 140mill+ for over a year. There has been a recent price rise which is falling away now - loads of HICs getting popped in sov fights I think and quick replacement has been required.
I think perhaps your problem is precisely what you say it isn't
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Ioci
Gallente Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2011.04.22 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Blame NC. Or blame it on the increased ease of making ISK.
Feel free, everyone else does but if you look at Pirate kills in the last 24 hrs on the map it's New Eden wide.
You want to blame someone for T2 spikes, blame Pandemic Legion for hot dropping 3 squads of Super Carriers and a Squad of Titans on every tech moon battle. Then when they think they might lose a precious titan they call in a thousand drakes from Carebear prime to crash the node. |
Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.04.22 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Tippia Blame NC. Or blame it on the increased ease of making ISK.
Feel free, everyone else does but if you look at Pirate kills in the last 24 hrs on the map it's New Eden wide.
You want to blame someone for T2 spikes, blame Pandemic Legion for hot dropping 3 squads of Super Carriers and a Squad of Titans on every tech moon battle. Then when they think they might lose a precious titan they call in a thousand drakes from Carebear prime to crash the node.
you look ugly you smell full of **** and you sound >mad<
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.04.22 17:46:00 -
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We have just had a year of ever increasing ISK being printing, inflation set in 3-4 months ago.
Large ISK faucet has been stopped so prices should come down some over the next several months. With whatever other planned nerfs/buffs are implemented market should return to normal before xmas if we are lucky.
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SKuzz'Kunn
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:00:00 -
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Blame it on Goonswarm constantly messing around and buggering about with 0.0.
Seriously i think its high time that Which 0.0 alliance controls Moons became a much more political thing that more players in the game took an interest in.
Scince goons took over bobIT moons the cost of t2 ships has sky rocketted. How does this influence your opinion of BoBIT and Goons ?
Just remember its in YOUR interest too take notice of who is in charge of the moons goo.
Just Food for Thought.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:05:00 -
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ITT: ZOMG I PVP IN T2 CONSTANTLY AND NOW I'M BROKE!
derpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderpderp
...oh wait
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:08:00 -
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The costs are high because of the people who have the bpc's for hictors.
Buy a thorax, rupture, moa bpo, make coppies and invent. Use decryptors for more success. then bam! profit.
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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 22/04/2011 18:09:55 Inflation = flawed economic theory.
300k subscriptions and CCP can't make a functioning and stable economy as gods of their own domain. Just like there is 7B people on earth and the entirety of the Human race can't make one either.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:46:00 -
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Don't lose ships in pvp? uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ Signature removed. Please submit a petition for further details. Navigator
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Montgomery Crabapple
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:49:00 -
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OP is basically saying he can't fly what he can't afford to lose.
Move along. There's nothing to see here.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:56:00 -
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I paid ~700 million ISK for my first vagabond.
What were you saying about PvP costs being too high? ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.22 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Neutrino Sunset HICs now cost 200M isk, they used to be about 130M. Interceptors cost 20M isk, they used to cost 7-10M Sabres are 47M isk, they used to be <30M
Sounds like manufacturing is becoming profitable once again.
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Tuggboat
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.22 19:07:00 -
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Drunken corporate greed coupled with the meglomania from being in the God Chair. CCp is killing the game hence itself.
Just cause someone buys a t2 cruiser off a scammer and finds out the price should have been a tenth of that doesn't mean that prices are dropping. :)
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SKuzz'Kunn
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Posted - 2011.04.22 19:16:00 -
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ill hand out free fitted rifters to anyone who will come pvp with me(i need wingmen and i have poor social skills)
PEW PEW PEW
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.04.22 20:05:00 -
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This is not the first time I have seen prices this high. Its about time ship losses hurt again.
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sallazzar
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Posted - 2011.04.22 20:17:00 -
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*cough* dynamic market *cough*
if prices are high make a move into the production industry.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.04.22 20:19:00 -
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FINALLY!
I get some tears as an indy from pvper
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