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Shetradesalot
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Posted - 2011.05.01 18:29:00 -
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I just received word that White Tree is leaving TEST to join Goons. Quite rightly the TEST players feel they have had their votes stolen by their so called friends in Goons so that they have full control over the direction of the CSM and ultimately the game we all play.
Considering he is leaving the alliance that backed him he should step down and if he will not be removed so an alternate can take his place. How can we let a group of known scammers and griefers destroy the game?
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.01 20:18:00 -
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We control your game now
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Aphalionex
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Posted - 2011.05.01 22:48:00 -
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Calm down, he isn't leaving TEST. Even if he did leave, why would he step down?
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EI Digin
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.01 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shetradesalot I just received word that White Tree is leaving TEST to join Goons. Quite rightly the TEST players feel they have had their votes stolen by their so called friends in Goons so that they have full control over the direction of the CSM and ultimately the game we all play.
Considering he is leaving the alliance that backed him he should step down and if he will not be removed so an alternate can take his place. How can we let a group of known scammers and griefers destroy the game?
Please don't tell me you're in TEST. Please. PLEASE.
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Della Monk
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Posted - 2011.05.02 00:44:00 -
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Well, good thing you voted for the person and not the alliance he happens to be in. Right?
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Van Derka
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Posted - 2011.05.02 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shetradesalot I just received word that White Tree is leaving TEST to join Goons. Quite rightly the TEST players feel they have had their votes stolen by their so called friends in Goons so that they have full control over the direction of the CSM and ultimately the game we all play.
Considering he is leaving the alliance that backed him he should step down and if he will not be removed so an alternate can take his place. How can we let a group of known scammers and griefers destroy the game?
What a load of BS. you dont vote for someone to the CSM for your own selfish needs, the CSM is there in the interests of all players, not just the interests of a single group of people. What about all the people in NPC corps, are their votes just wasted because they voted for an individual who isnt directly involved in their corp... I lol.
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Capricorn 0ne
Caldari Broski Federation Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.05 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shetradesalot I just received word that White Tree is leaving TEST to join Goons. Quite rightly the TEST players feel they have had their votes stolen by their so called friends in Goons so that they have full control over the direction of the CSM and ultimately the game we all play.
That is like recalling kids on your high school government because 3 of them are on the basketball team and get all chicks and have the fun underage drinking parties that you were never invited to.
Also you vote for the person not the corporation and alliance (not saying that will not change your vote but in the end you do vote for the person).
In the end I leave you with this...
Deal With It
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Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
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Posted - 2011.05.06 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Khory Thunderstar on 06/05/2011 16:22:29
Originally by: Van Derka
What a load of BS. you dont vote for someone to the CSM for your own selfish needs, the CSM is there in the interests of all players, not just the interests of a single group of people. What about all the people in NPC corps, are their votes just wasted because they voted for an individual who isnt directly involved in their corp... I lol.
Erm...
You vote for CSM with your best selfish needs. In fact, you should vote for anything with your own selfish needs. In case you have not realized yet, people ARE selfish. You should find someone whose ideas you agree with and vote for him, because he is the one most likely to make things change in the direction that you would like them to change.
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Minerva Seraph
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.05.07 01:57:00 -
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In Canada, you always vote for a Member of Parliament. They're free to change parties, or even "cross the floor", where they join the party with a plurality of seats, for a cabinet position.
I do not support recalling until Eve no longer offers First Past the Post voting.
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Adrian Idaho
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Posted - 2011.05.07 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Khory Thunderstar Edited by: Khory Thunderstar on 06/05/2011 16:22:29
Originally by: Van Derka
What a load of BS. you dont vote for someone to the CSM for your own selfish needs, the CSM is there in the interests of all players, not just the interests of a single group of people. What about all the people in NPC corps, are their votes just wasted because they voted for an individual who isnt directly involved in their corp... I lol.
Erm...
You vote for CSM with your best selfish needs. In fact, you should vote for anything with your own selfish needs. In case you have not realized yet, people ARE selfish. You should find someone whose ideas you agree with and vote for him, because he is the one most likely to make things change in the direction that you would like them to change.
Your reasoning is fallacious, you falsely assume that since people are selfish, they will always support the ideas that benefit them the most, which is not true; though I do agree that most people tend to support those ideas that benefit them the most.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.07 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Adrian Idaho
Originally by: Khory Thunderstar Edited by: Khory Thunderstar on 06/05/2011 16:22:29
Originally by: Van Derka
What a load of BS. you dont vote for someone to the CSM for your own selfish needs, the CSM is there in the interests of all players, not just the interests of a single group of people. What about all the people in NPC corps, are their votes just wasted because they voted for an individual who isnt directly involved in their corp... I lol.
Erm...
You vote for CSM with your best selfish needs. In fact, you should vote for anything with your own selfish needs. In case you have not realized yet, people ARE selfish. You should find someone whose ideas you agree with and vote for him, because he is the one most likely to make things change in the direction that you would like them to change.
Your reasoning is fallacious, you falsely assume that since people are selfish, they will always support the ideas that benefit them the most, which is not true; though I do agree that most people tend to support those ideas that benefit them the most.
Everyone pursues their own self-interest. Even people who donate time and resources to charitable causes do so because they enjoy the feeling they get from doing so. Altruism is a clever lie concocted by people with power to keep people without it from rebelling against them.
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Adrian Idaho
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Posted - 2011.05.08 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Adrian Idaho
Originally by: Khory Thunderstar Edited by: Khory Thunderstar on 06/05/2011 16:22:29
Originally by: Van Derka
What a load of BS. you dont vote for someone to the CSM for your own selfish needs, the CSM is there in the interests of all players, not just the interests of a single group of people. What about all the people in NPC corps, are their votes just wasted because they voted for an individual who isnt directly involved in their corp... I lol.
Erm...
You vote for CSM with your best selfish needs. In fact, you should vote for anything with your own selfish needs. In case you have not realized yet, people ARE selfish. You should find someone whose ideas you agree with and vote for him, because he is the one most likely to make things change in the direction that you would like them to change.
Your reasoning is fallacious, you falsely assume that since people are selfish, they will always support the ideas that benefit them the most, which is not true; though I do agree that most people tend to support those ideas that benefit them the most.
Everyone pursues their own self-interest. Even people who donate time and resources to charitable causes do so because they enjoy the feeling they get from doing so. Altruism is a clever lie concocted by people with power to keep people without it from rebelling against them.
- This is by no means a fact, rather a point of view; it also kinda depends on your definiton of "altruism".
- Voting for someone who supports the same or similar ideas as you, even if they do not benefit you (or even ideas that affect you negatively), is not the same as altruism.
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Lyrrashae
Minmatar Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.05.12 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lyrrashae on 12/05/2011 05:13:43 Edited by: Lyrrashae on 12/05/2011 05:12:23
Originally by: Van Derka What a load of BS. you dont vote for someone to the CSM for your own selfish needs[...]
My God, you're serious, aren't you. You should look up "human nature" in the dictionary sometime, mate...If you're truly that nai'ive about why people do things, then I don't know if I should salute you for your optimism, or pity you for the abysmal ****ing you will receive at the hands of the Titan known as Life
Quote: What about all the both suspiciously-timed newly-created, as well as existing alts in NPC corps, are their votes just wasted because they voted for their main. I lol.
Oh, and, fixed it for you.
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Calfis
Amarr Fukushima Industries Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: EI Digin
Originally by: Shetradesalot I just received word that White Tree is leaving TEST to join Goons. Quite rightly the TEST players feel they have had their votes stolen by their so called friends in Goons so that they have full control over the direction of the CSM and ultimately the game we all play.
Considering he is leaving the alliance that backed him he should step down and if he will not be removed so an alternate can take his place. How can we let a group of known scammers and griefers destroy the game?
Please don't tell me you're in TEST. Please. PLEASE.
Dude, everyone is in TEST
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