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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management
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Posted - 2011.05.03 00:26:00 -
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After 5 years working on this program, I figured the time has come for an official thread for EVETycoon. I'll do my best to maintain it however, the best way to contact me is still via in-game E-mail or via normal E-mail at the website listed below.
EVETycoon 3.1.2 is the current version
What is EVETycoon?
EVETycoon is a standalone EVE marketing program designed to run under Windows XP-7. Using EVE's Marketlog export feature, EVETycoon gives the user the most current and accurate information on the regional market allowing them to make accurate and informed decisions on their trading. At the heart of EVETycoon is a virtual reprocessor which allows the user to simulate reprocessing of any item in on the EVE market and get an instant comparison of the retail and mineral sales potential. While primarily designed for the dealer in scrap, EVETycoon's features extend it's usefulness to the retail trader as well as any industrialist who's looking to maximize their building profits. Even mission runners will find it's reprocessing/valuation tools valuable as it will quickly tell you whether you should sell your loot directly or reprocess them and sell the minerals.
Features:
- Self-contained. The only requirement to run ET3 is Internet Explorer 6 or above. (ET3 now uses web based help files via an embedded IE browser.)
No web-based pricing sources. EVETycoon ONLY uses exports from the EVE client so you know they're current and accurate.
- NO MANDATORY API - EVETycoon does include character and corp wallet modules which do require the full API key however, use of those modules is entirely optional. None of it's marketing or reprocessing abilities require any API key.
Modules:
- Market Overview - Regional pricing and volume information on all components and minerals as well as graphing features to help you quickly spot potential future shortcoming in the component/mineral market.
- Virtual Reprocessor - Perform a virtual reprocess on any item in the game and see the current value of it's mineral components.
- Multi-Reprocessor - Load and save lists of ores or items to be reprocessed/refined and get current pricing information.
- My Orders/Corporation Orders - Profit analysis and graphing of your buy and sell orders. Find out which of your trades are the most profitable.
- Market Analyzer - Thinking about trading in an item? The Market Analyzer will tell you if it's profitable to retail or reprocess the item.
- Profit Finder - Export multiple items from the EVE market and analyze them all at once for potential profits. Profit finder helps you sort through hundreds of items on the market and spot those that are virtually guaranteed to make isk.
- Corporation/Character Accounting - Standard accounting information with graphing and unique perspectives into your best customers and your best performing stations.
- Mineral Calculator - Feed blueprint information or mineral stockpile amounts in and get instant mineral/component pricing information. Save and load calculations to determine if it's more profitable to sell the minerals or build the item.
- Export File Management - Delete and archive old marketlog exports with the click of a button.
- EMM EVE Marketlog Manager - A standalone automated program included with the first version of ET that scans your marketlog exports and keeps ONLY the most current copy, archiving or deleting old copies. Essential for reducing load times on any program that accesses marketlog information.
To download: TwistedVoid Screenshots: Screenshots EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management
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Posted - 2011.05.03 00:28:00 -
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Feel free to join the in-game chant channel EVETycoon EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Pano Panala
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Posted - 2011.05.04 11:16:00 -
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sounds nice. anyone tried it?
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Eclavdra Eilservs
Caldari Forging Industries Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.05.04 19:12:00 -
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Actually, ya. I tried it out and generally I have been pretty happy with it. The 'profit finder' is pretty handy, as well as the reprocessor. The only thing I came across that was an issue is that the program includes EMM to handle the cleanup/archiving of the logs. EMM doesn't know how to handle long file names. So if your eve market log files are in c:\users\eclavdra eilservs\eve\logs\market, the space between my name messes things up. Just use the old DOS extension for the name c:\users\eclavd~1\eve\logs\market when you configure EVETycoon and both work without a hitch.
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Marek Krayn
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:10:00 -
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I have used it and have been impressed by it. Have used it to do a variety of money making ventures in the game. |
karraddass
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Posted - 2011.05.06 04:19:00 -
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I have used this tool a lot since downloading! You did great work Mark Hamill, keep it up!
+1
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Doeko
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Posted - 2011.05.06 07:14:00 -
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I may be asking something entirely obvious but is there a way to make the market browsing part to get stuff into the cache automated?
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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.06 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Doeko I may be asking something entirely obvious but is there a way to make the market browsing part to get stuff into the cache automated?
For now, no.
Reason being, EVETycoon is written in a rather obscure language, Delphi. Both of the tools I've seen for working with the cache are C/Python. I don't work in those languages at all. Though evelibcache does have a dll and their 'dumper' utility, they give no clues as to how to use the dll and I've yet to get the dumper to work on Windows.
Furthermore, ET crunches a LOT of data and does so with no external requirements (.net, sql, etc). Since scanning the cache would pull in every item you looked at rather than just the once you were interested in, the volume of data ET had to deal with would be much larger, it would be much more processor intensive, and it would need to graduate to a full blown database. I have no intent at this time of rewriting it to do that.
EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
I'm angry
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Posted - 2011.05.06 15:15:00 -
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I can safely say this program is awesome. Mark Hamill has helped me out alot.
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Clambumper June
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Posted - 2011.05.06 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Eclavdra Eilservs Actually, ya. I tried it out and generally I have been pretty happy with it. The 'profit finder' is pretty handy, as well as the reprocessor. The only thing I came across that was an issue is that the program includes EMM to handle the cleanup/archiving of the logs. EMM doesn't know how to handle long file names. So if your eve market log files are in c:\users\eclavdra eilservs\eve\logs\market, the space between my name messes things up. Just use the old DOS extension for the name c:\users\eclavd~1\eve\logs\market when you configure EVETycoon and both work without a hitch.
I apparently missed this step. Where can I find the configuration file to modify this setting? At this tiem I can not EVE Tycoon 3 to run as it can not open the log directory. Thank you.
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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.06 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Clambumper June
Originally by: Eclavdra Eilservs Actually, ya. I tried it out and generally I have been pretty happy with it. The 'profit finder' is pretty handy, as well as the reprocessor. The only thing I came across that was an issue is that the program includes EMM to handle the cleanup/archiving of the logs. EMM doesn't know how to handle long file names. So if your eve market log files are in c:\users\eclavdra eilservs\eve\logs\market, the space between my name messes things up. Just use the old DOS extension for the name c:\users\eclavd~1\eve\logs\market when you configure EVETycoon and both work without a hitch.
I apparently missed this step. Where can I find the configuration file to modify this setting? At this tiem I can not EVE Tycoon 3 to run as it can not open the log directory. Thank you.
Contact me in-game on the EVETycoon chat channel or via the contact form on the website and I'll be glad to help you get it set up. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.07 18:07:00 -
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ET 3.1.3 released. If you already have ET3, simply start it and follow the download link in the welcome center. The installer will uninstall 3.1.2 and install 3.1.3. You settings will be maintained. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.10 05:39:00 -
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EVETycoon 3.1.4 released.
This version includes a bug fix and a reworking of the discredit value calculation.
The purpose of the discredit value in ET is to attempt to remove unrealistic buy & sell orders from average prices (i.e. a buy order of 1 bil trit at .01 isk p/u) Previously, ET may have included some of those in calculating averages. This has been fixed. Along with this, Supply & Demand charts will now consider the discredit value before including unrealistic buy orders. This should provide a much closer representation of the regional supply and demand.
Fixed a couple of minor typos.
Also included in this version is a new method of showing your support for EVETycoon. While the number of times ET has been used by the EVE community is now in the thousands, donations to support and continue this project have stopped. Hopefully, the new method you'll see when you start ET will give you something a little extra for your donation.
Naturally, your feedback is always welcome. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.10 08:24:00 -
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It needs a cache reader, without one it's effectively useless.
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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.10 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Wyke Mossari It needs a cache reader, without one it's effectively useless.
Please read the entire thread and you'll understand why there's no cache reader.
By the way, I'm pretty sure that I've added features since cache reading came out, not removed them. How could it be useful to so many people before yet you find it... useless. I don't understand.
EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Yime Nsokyi
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Posted - 2011.05.10 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Yime Nsokyi on 10/05/2011 11:33:39
Originally by: Mark Hamill
Profit Finder - Export multiple items from the EVE market and analyze them all at once for potential profits. Profit finder helps you sort through hundreds of items on the market and spot those that are virtually guaranteed to make isk
So am I correct in thinking you still have to pick 'item x' from the market and export the data individually for ET to give you the profitability? I guess from one of your other posts there is no way to export the full market data as one file as you would with a single product? Still useful don't get me wrong I like this program(it's identified a couple of my trades which were actually selling at a loss!) but a fiddle to use to quickly scan for a good opportunity...
Cheers YN
edit: typing failure
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Callista Omenswarm
Binary Industries Inc
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Posted - 2011.05.10 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Wyke Mossari It needs a cache reader, without one it's effectively useless.
There's other tools that'll do that bit for you, such as mine over at NEMMS.com and I thought the Eve-central.com and eve-marketdata.com uploaders would also spit out CSV files.
Great tool Mark, look forward to downloading and having a play with it.
[Rogue Drones Alliance -Recruiting New Players] |
Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.10 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Yime Nsokyi Edited by: Yime Nsokyi on 10/05/2011 11:33:39
Originally by: Mark Hamill
Profit Finder - Export multiple items from the EVE market and analyze them all at once for potential profits. Profit finder helps you sort through hundreds of items on the market and spot those that are virtually guaranteed to make isk
So am I correct in thinking you still have to pick 'item x' from the market and export the data individually for ET to give you the profitability? I guess from one of your other posts there is no way to export the full market data as one file as you would with a single product? Still useful don't get me wrong I like this program(it's identified a couple of my trades which were actually selling at a loss!) but a fiddle to use to quickly scan for a good opportunity...
Cheers YN
edit: typing failure
You are correct.
However, if you're mostly working in reprocessing you shouldn't have to keep exporting each individual item unless you want updated supply & demand info. Reprocessing amounts don't change. The value of the mins do. If you just export a new set of mins and look at either the 'mineral sales potential' in the market analyzer or also export 'my orders' and look at your profit margin there, you'll have accurate info without re-exporting every single item.
Once I've identified an item as profitable, I rarely re-export that item. I do export mins every time I use ET tho. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.10 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Callista Omenswarm
Originally by: Wyke Mossari It needs a cache reader, without one it's effectively useless.
There's other tools that'll do that bit for you, such as mine over at NEMMS.com and I thought the Eve-central.com and eve-marketdata.com uploaders would also spit out CSV files.
Great tool Mark, look forward to downloading and having a play with it.
NEMMS.com - domain not found.
I have looked at both evelibcache and reverence. Spent hours trying to digest both of them. Problem is, I'm not a C programmer. It's all gibberish to me. I can make out hints of what it's doing but I'm still clueless. Furthermore, neither of them actually documents what the code is doing so I can't even begin to try to figure out the file structure.
I've also tried the dumper program that comes with evelibcache.... crashes.
Until someone can explain to me in plain English what these libs are doing or how the files are structured... I'm stuck with the export button. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Callista Omenswarm
Binary Industries Inc
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Posted - 2011.05.10 19:53:00 -
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Download the Sc****r, create shortcut and stick ' /output:c:\path_to_output_csv_files' on the end. Voila, insta-exports as you browse. Downside is data will also be sent to nemms and viewable on the market section there.
Hit any problems or roadblocks, drop me an eve mail.
[Rogue Drones Alliance -Recruiting New Players] |
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Mu-Shi Ai
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Posted - 2011.05.11 01:29:00 -
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Just wanted to chime in and say how much I love EVETycoon. I'm not oriented toward a reprocessing profit business, but the estimations of unit movement and overall ISK volume (buy and sell) in a specific item work wonders when it comes to choosing which items I want to lay out buy orders on.
And I actually like using manual exports for the data, because it allows me to keep only those specific items I want to watch in the Market Analyzer. For those who've already done the hard preliminary research themselves and populated their QuickMarket tab accordingly, being able to enter all those items into EveTycoon and have it do the heavy lifting of determining margin, movement, and market size, is a major time-saver.
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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.12 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mu-Shi Ai Just wanted to chime in and say how much I love EVETycoon. I'm not oriented toward a reprocessing profit business, but the estimations of unit movement and overall ISK volume (buy and sell) in a specific item work wonders when it comes to choosing which items I want to lay out buy orders on.
And I actually like using manual exports for the data, because it allows me to keep only those specific items I want to watch in the Market Analyzer. For those who've already done the hard preliminary research themselves and populated their QuickMarket tab accordingly, being able to enter all those items into EveTycoon and have it do the heavy lifting of determining margin, movement, and market size, is a major time-saver.
Do watch the supply vs demand chart for all items in the market overview. Found a miscalculation in qty's sold. Market Analyzer supply vs demand isn't affected. Will be fixed in next patch. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Wendy Belle
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:33:00 -
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Make it work with an embedded firefox browser and I will consider using it. Sorry I don't trust IE. |
Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.14 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Wendy Belle Make it work with an embedded firefox browser and I will consider using it. Sorry I don't trust IE.
Write a native Delphi component that's updated to the latest html standards other than IE and I'll be most happy to accommodate you. Considering what I'm getting paid for this app, I'm not.
I do appreciate the compliment tho. Putting trust in me above that of Microsoft is most humbling. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
Rabid Longcat
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:02:00 -
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Is evetycoon better or worse than evementat? What are the main differences?
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2011.05.21 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rabid Longcat Is evetycoon better or worse than evementat? What are the main differences?
I have installed both since the discussion in the lounge yesterday, and it seems there isnt a better/worse, just differences.
I may have been looking at EveTycoon wrong, but it felt to me that it was primarily aimed at finding profits based on mineral value of the item. This char accidentally forgot to train industry skills, so has awful refine, so tycoon returns a lot of items as negative profit.
I will most likely hop into the EveTycoon channel, so I can go figure it out a bit better.
I am not gonna write about Mentat in the Tycoon thread, but I will grab you if I see you ingame rabid :)
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Vernal Equinox
Minmatar Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.05.21 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rhivre
I may have been looking at EveTycoon wrong, but it felt to me that it was primarily aimed at finding profits based on mineral value of the item.
This is correct. I use both, as they serve different trade styles. tycoon is for reprocessing, and intra-region retaling. Mentat is more for the traditional inter-regional arbitrage trading.
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Darkmara
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Posted - 2011.05.21 18:48:00 -
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I keep getting "Market logs in C:\Documents does not exist!" despite the fact I'm pointing it in the correct directory (AFAIK).
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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.22 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Darkmara I keep getting "Market logs in C:\Documents does not exist!" despite the fact I'm pointing it in the correct directory (AFAIK).
This is a very elusive bug I'm still trying to track down. For now, I've had some users who solved the problem by using the old XP style long directory naming structure.
c:\Docume~1\etc.
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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.05.22 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rhivre
Originally by: Rabid Longcat Is evetycoon better or worse than evementat? What are the main differences?
I have installed both since the discussion in the lounge yesterday, and it seems there isnt a better/worse, just differences.
I may have been looking at EveTycoon wrong, but it felt to me that it was primarily aimed at finding profits based on mineral value of the item. This char accidentally forgot to train industry skills, so has awful refine, so tycoon returns a lot of items as negative profit.
I will most likely hop into the EveTycoon channel, so I can go figure it out a bit better.
I am not gonna write about Mentat in the Tycoon thread, but I will grab you if I see you ingame rabid :)
First, make sure you put your NET YIELD in the configuration rather than the 50% base yield. I've had some users get confused on that. I'll be obvious in the next patch.
TBH, I've never looked at Mentat. I guess maybe I should.
If you need to contact me, the quickest way is to typically send an evemail. I do watch the EVETycoon chat channel but I have so many blinking things going on, I often miss things being said. |
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