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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.05.09 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: ShahFluffers on 09/05/2011 22:01:44
There was a thread awhile back that touched on (see: re-did) ways to make some of the Gallente ships more viable in today's combat environment.
While most of the ideas were... pretty radical (some good, some not so much)... the cynic in me felt that it was too much overall to gain much support.
I did toss in an idea that did get some pretty warm responses (such that even the OP altered his proposal to include it)... so I want to see how it would stand on its own.
The idea is this:
Change the active repping bonuses for ships like the Brutix, Myrmidon, Hyperion, Eos, and Astarte to an armor hp bonus.
The slot layouts for these ships would remain the same (unless balancing issues demanded they they be tweaked) and the percent bonus is up to debate.
My reasoning behind this is; with an armor hp bonus these Gallente ships would not NEED to fit [as many] plates to create a reasonable buffer tank... thus increasing their agility and allowing for faster flight and "get in range" abilities. It would also give them better survivability overall. The bonus is also "Gallente-like" as the Erberus (Gallente Titan) gives a 10% armor bonus to its fleet and doesn infringe on Amarrian ship's armor bonus, which is resistance based (the exception being the Navy Augoror).
Thoughts? _______________________
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Rek Seven
Gallente Corvez Holdings
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Posted - 2011.05.10 09:04:00 -
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As a gallente pilot, i like the idea. Would mass increase with the HP bonus?
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Spartis Reave
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Posted - 2011.05.10 22:19:00 -
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Whilst I agree for the Brutix hull would be better suited to a buffer tank and a hp bonus would be useful as opposed to the armour repping bonus I have to disagree when it comes down to the Mrym and the Hyperion as you can fit an awesome active tank on those and still pull out some reasonably good dps.
Dont nerf the Mrym.
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Veron Kirtor
Gallente Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.05.11 00:08:00 -
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Good idea, anything to make Gallente ships go faster. +5% armor hp per skill level trained? Or 7.5%?
I don't think that this would absolve Gallente ships of the problem that they are too slow to get close enough to an enemy to hit them, sooo...
Heavily boost Sensor Dampening for Gallente ships. Make the enemy come to you if you can't get to them.
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.05.11 00:47:00 -
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YES PLEASE I LOVE THIS IDEA I HAVE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING FOR YEARS
even for the myrm please yes... tripple active tanks are just lol... ok buffer tanks with rr are much more viable for anything other then solo pvp... if you look at the standard caldari/ammar bonus they are both good for pve/pvp but the rep bonus is not so good for large scale pvp for both minmatar and gallente... imo when hybrids get boosted plus if gallente ships have thier tank bonus changed i would also argue that minmatars also change... which would make ships like the cyclone or mael or brutix or hyperion ftw... yes for all gallente ships that get teh rep bonus just dont do it to the kronos as its meant to be pve...
another bonus that i would like to see changed is the reduction in cap amount for mwd to a reduction in mass addition from mwd... Basically mass inthe mwd velocity equation equates to the 'agility' of your ship (think angle ships)... i.e. align time and how fast it gets up to max speed... this would mean that gallente ships would still be effectivly slower then minmatar but would be much more qwick and nimble... which would allow close range blaster setups to be effective in pvp again...
all of a sudden a ship like the diemos would be pretty nasty... 50% increase to blaster damage 50% increase to blaster falloff 50% reduction in mwd mass addition
or astarte 50% increase to blaster damage 50% increase to armor amount 50% increase to blaster falloff
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: ShahFluffers on 11/05/2011 05:30:27
Originally by: Rek Seven As a gallente pilot, i like the idea. Would mass increase with the HP bonus?
I think that would run a bit counter to what the armor bonus is supposed to achieve (which is along the lines of "better survivability" for being "slow" and having lacking range).
Originally by: Spartis Reave I have to disagree when it comes down to the Mrym and the Hyperion as you can fit an awesome active tank on those and still pull out some reasonably good dps.
Granted, the rep bonus is nice and does produce some utterly AMAZING results. However, the Cyclone and Malestorm can pull off similar tanks with FAR better results by virtue of shield tanks only taking up mid-slots (cap boosters included) while leaving low-slots for damage and/or speed mods, allowing them to ability to either kite, tank, and GTFO or simply active-tank and gank (with much better range to boot). In contrast, the Myrmidon and [especially the] Hyperion must dedicate ALL their low-slots to active tank similar numbers along with at least a mid-slot or [more reasonably] two to maintain said tanks, thus gimping their DPS and/or range and/or speed and/or utility potential.
Originally by: MeBiatch ... another bonus that i would like to see changed is...
As I said in the OP, I'm not trying the "overhaul" approach that others have tried with Gallente ships (which, mind you, I too think is badly needed). I'm simply putting out a small standalone "tweak" idea to certain Gallente ships and seeing how receptive people will be to it. _______________________
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miniCarl
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Posted - 2011.05.11 08:23:00 -
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Not supported.
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Walextheone
The Red Circle Inc. Red Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.11 11:04:00 -
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I like the idea too. Less plates means that you finally being able to fit a bit larger guns.
The rep bonus on the Brutix is so lol
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.05.12 06:21:00 -
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Bumping _______________________
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