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Bolstress
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:12:00 -
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Intro and Day 1&2
Ok so Ive really been wanting to get into the blops cops side of eve. Its what I wanted before I joined FW/low sec pvp. Its the side of the game that seems awesome.
So 2 days ago I said screw it lets do it. This is the tail of the things I have learned done, and thought about through my cops experience. I will update it daily through the forums on this post it will cover the things that show how big alliances are just big tards...(aka ******s) and the things that people write that are just false.
Intro:
Solo bombers suck. Yep thats what I read, people say it all the time. Well the truth is. Solo bombers do suck in the hands of noobs (me) trying to get epic kills. The idea of the solo bomber is very simply. To annoy and **** off. Going through battle clinic you can see dozens of "solo" fits for bombers and people claiming their fame. IMO it just isnt true, unless you get very lucky. THat is solo, we are talking about. Soloing a players BS is not an easy thing to do in a bomber. It may be that the ship cant hit you but drones just hurt like a mother and all BS have them (even T1 drones hurt). A lot of fits say use this or use that....yea Im telling you now those guys have never done it right. because their fits suck and miss out on a lot of oppertunity I have seen passed by.
So if solo bombers suck why use them?
Simply destroy their miners, freighters and PI transports. This does MORE damage then taking out a BS. A BS can be rebuilt. Making that "huge " alliance loose several loads of PI or manufactured goods hurts more. Because those goods were going to be used to manufacture or keep multiple pos / bs running/made.
This is where the solo bomber shines in the hand of a noob (me). Someone that has only read about how bombers work.
As I learn I will be focusing on industrial ships in the area I am in however I will pop and run on some of the BS just to keep them honest until I get comfortable in the ship I am using.
I will keep confidential the system I am in and the alliance I am abusing until someone becomes smart and learns where I am....I am sure my name has already spread throught the alliance I am messing with.
system: CLASSIFIED SHIP: CLASSIFIED FIT: CLASSIFIED ALLIANCE: CLASSIFIED
please give me 10 mintues before replying so I can get everything in and spots reserved
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Bolstress
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:15:00 -
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Day 1 - The Travel and The Drake
I must be vague in certain instances because the life of a bomber is full of learning experiences that I do not want to divulge everything simply because I dont want my secrets to how I got certain places known. I am in the back yard of a HUGE alliance. The alliance is very well known and has a very large sovernty. The method I got there I will simply state as....
1) Firendly cyno? 2) Someone gave me the Jumpbridge access? 3) I am an alt of a main in their corp who was able to cyno in 4) other options here
THe point I am making is that it is VERY EASY for a bomber to get into the back yard of an alliance. I cant specificlly tell you how I did it here so as not to block my route out or back in. But I was in, with no problems.
So now that I am in the backyard of the syste, its time to take a look around and figure out which areas are acutally the home of this alliance. Day 1 and I began started scanning (dscan) belts looking for targets. Bingo a dead system with 2 people in local. Found a drake at a belt.
This being my first target probably wasnt the best selection. I warped to the belt at an undisclosed range and watched the drake. T1 warriors.....noob. Clearly this is a ******ed pilot since he is using T1 drones in a drake. So I warp out and warp back at optimal range, target the drake....dang hes on teh last frig I was out of warp disruptor range, screw it. Target and I begin shooting him with my torps. I need to see what I can do against a drake (from which reports say a bomber can kill if fit for ratting) I was doign almost 2k dmg per volley to the drake and his shield were hurting, he warped out.
Ok so I can do damge to the drake. He didnt send his drones at me. Clearly he's a noob pilot so let stry to get him again. I stalk him at his station and follow him to a belt. I engage again, this time he sends his drones at me. Out of fear of losing my ship to early on an experiemental run I bail. Better to learn and fight later.
Some smack talks goes on in local (which I have decided is NOT a good thing for a bomber pilot to do) Surprise is our element. I cloak up and sit in local until I get DcD by downtime. Log back on cloak and stuff.
Lessons Learned:
Smack talk = bad for a bomber pilot.
Drakes can be killed however drones hurt. Probably best to leave these alone until I am more experienced with my ship.
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Bolstress
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:20:00 -
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Day 2 - Getting Stronnnngggger....(enter Rocky music)
Ok so the system I was in is just dead at the moment, Ive been sitting here and all I see is the same noob drake. So I start going deeper into the systems of the alliance. Bingo found a series of 4 jumps where it seems that this is their main areas. I start looking around 39 in local, 19 in local, 5 local, 10 local. perfect. Lots of stuff to shoot. So I start looking around the system
Things I notice:
1) They are noobs. Dude seriously rename your ship tard. Clearly your not a PVPer if your all flying ships with "name's ship" Its like the entire alliance doesnt know how ship names work and why we change our names....
2) Several POS, and a jumpbridge located. Jumpbridge has an empty Raven BS in the forcefield. I noted the name of the ship for future reference for Dscans.
3) Made several tacts.
So now that I am in system I am looking to see if there is any chit chat to me in local. I saw one thing said to me but I couldnt understand the guy...again ****** is a tugh langague to break. As I am sitting in local warping around, etc. I start to see a bunch of industrys on scan. So I start tracking them down. Yep finally I found the routes they use and their PI planets. Perfect. Again the job of the bomber is to be smart and patient. Its not like normal pvp where you can bum rush them. Day 2 is a lot of recon work. Tracking movements, activity levels, etc.
After hanging around I start stalking a hauler. A simple bestower. I figure hes prolly moving things from system to system. So I sit and wait as he jumps out. Nothing for awile so I go back to recon work. I come back to a gate and decide to simply wait and see what comes through.
Maelstrom, dominix (that would hurt), Tempest, bestower...proartor....dangit I am loosing targets what gives, I move a bit closer to the gate so I can get in within point range.
Bestower....BAM uncloak point, orbit, BOOM.
Bolster 1 unkown alliance 0
Warped off immediately, dont care about the wreck I have to get in and get out.
Look at the kill mail. Nice PI transporter just like I thought. It was a 16m kill since it was loaded with cargo optimizer rigs. Not a bad day 2.
So after getting the rush of blowing up the first target I went to another gate. Now I dont know if it was sleep, alchaol, or a combination of both. But I am wathcing my dscan and I notice a typhoon on short. He lands. Not jumping....mm typhoon tier 1 BS....I amthinking should I make a go. All of a sudden I get YELLOW BOXED....wtc!!
I notice I am sitting on a gate uncloaked.....oh crap. I warp out with 50% armor. The one thing I learned was the typhoon has a lot of drones.
Note the intro (drones hurt)
Ok so now that I am awake. Lessons learned:
1) Bring nano repair paste. I wont be overheating anymore of my mods since I dont have any. 2) I am about 50 jumpsfrom high sec. You live until your supplies are out 3) Dont fly a bomber when your drinking and tired. 4)BS' are starting to scare me. These things have drones. 5) AB fit bombers are too slow to outrun drones.
Now thoughts to ponder. I have made my pressence aware 3 times now. How much more will I be able to do what I want before it becomes reaallly hard.
please respect the 10 minute rule
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Bolstress
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:22:00 -
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Bolstress
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:24:00 -
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Bolstress
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:27:00 -
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reserved
feel free to post stuff now. ty.
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The Okamik
Gallente Elitist Jerks
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:42:00 -
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Keep it up, im interested to see how this plays out actually :) =][= ---------------------------------------- =][= don't fear the reaper. Fear the guy that's gonna send you to Him |
Niveon
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Posted - 2011.05.12 14:49:00 -
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Your other char is BolsterBomb, you noob. |
Kyros Proxima
Caldari Hanseatic League of Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.12 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Niveon Your other char is BolsterBomb, you noob.
This. Incredibly obvious. Operating in or around AV-VB6.
Interesting concept, but if you want to make a big deal about being secretive, use less obvious names in the future. **************************************** Navigare necesse est, vivere non necesse**************************************** |
Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus
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Posted - 2011.05.12 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Bolstress Now thoughts to ponder. I have made my pressence aware 3 times now. How much more will I be able to do what I want before it becomes reaallly hard.
In TEST space? Don't worry ;)
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Metal Icarus
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.12 18:27:00 -
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This thread is relavant to my interest.
*takes notes*
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tomd741
Best Path Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.13 03:41:00 -
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I am enjoying the stories. Well done and I look forward to hearing more.
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Jabru
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.13 04:34:00 -
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good read ao far, love to hear more on it
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Larry Wickes
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Posted - 2011.05.13 04:52:00 -
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You can solo a BS in a SB, you just gotta fit your ship properly, be patient, and pick your targets.
The last solo bomber kill I had I killed an Abaddon, despite him having a big tank, a Cyno, Heavy Neut, and T2 Warriors, along with 19 in local. Eventually some of his mates came in attempt to save him. At that time he was 5% structure, and I was reloading. I had two potential options: 1) Warp the hell out and live. 2) Finish him! ... And get blown up myself.
I took option 2 of course. Abaddon's death
Which in turn caused my death. Which also makes it easy to post my fit; AB/MSE Purifier
500 DPS (About 600 Overloaded and sustainable for 2 minutes.), and moves at 850 m/s. Any gun BS will not be able to hit you, except with drones, the idea, however, is that you have a decent enough tank to tank them until your target is dead.
The other fit I use is fit as follows;MWD Manticore
Both fits are similar for all types of bombers and work well. I almost killed Miss Emopants there, however I screwed up at the very begining of the fight; I fired my first torp volley, and blew my own volley up with my bomb, and completly missed her with the bomb.
I got her to 40% structure. If I hadn't screwed up at the start. I woulda killed her. Beware of Cruise Ravens because they often have Rigors for ratting and that'll help them kill you. Any other BS won't be able to hit you and with a cap booster you'll be neut proof. Traveling at 2,000 m/s+ even makes it hard for drones to hit you, and if that doesn't do it, occasionally overload it to go past 3,000 m/s.
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Fibby Sunhawk
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.05.13 11:22:00 -
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Since you did so much reccon you should know what time of the day there are less people around your pocket. Might be worth to sneak in and anchor a container with torps, bombs and some nanite repair paste. Then you dont have to worry about that.
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Bolstress
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Posted - 2011.05.13 16:07:00 -
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added day 3
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Zauu en Welle
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Posted - 2011.05.13 16:28:00 -
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I'm really enjoying this. Please continue.
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.05.15 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bolstress
So if solo bombers suck why use them?
Simply destroy their miners, freighters and PI transports. This does MORE damage then taking out a BS. A BS can be rebuilt. Making that "huge " alliance loose several loads of PI or manufactured goods hurts more. Because those goods were going to be used to manufacture or keep multiple pos / bs running/made.
Gotta agree with this, While getting my feet wet last year I managed dozens of kills in deep red space, Looking forward to getting back to it soon (year hiatus)
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8307955 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8734049 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8678788 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8667092 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8607974 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8597090 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8451085 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8451082 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8451081 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8449136 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8414728 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8376602 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8376600 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8376599 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8376598 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8178641 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8289379
Far greater (and uninsurable) losses (all loot I couldn't stow in a GSC was destroyed)
Keep doing what your doing man
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Ethixz
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Posted - 2011.05.16 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bolstress Warped off immediately, dont care about the wreck I have to get in and get out.
Blow up the wreck so they can't recover anything that drops if you are trying to maximize their losses. Shouldn't take long to target and one volley it as you are aligning out.
Alternitively, especially if you catch haulers at customs offices, leave the wreck and blow them up again when they come to pick up what dropped. It is a bit of risk though as they could be baiting you out of hiding so be aware of who's in local and preferably what each one is flying if possible.
Nice read though, enjoyed it.
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ChromeStriker
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Posted - 2011.05.16 09:34:00 -
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good read liking it so far
Im intreaged to know your fit if its not a problem with security or whatever, mainly because your not using a bomb launcher and it seems to be a problem. i myself fly SB's tho im only at the beining of my solo career hense my curiosity. - Nulla Curas |
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Negustor Cinstit
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Posted - 2011.05.16 12:58:00 -
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Terrible troll. The bad part is, you made your carebearing mates droll, dreaming of empty hauler kills. Stop trying to romance your failed incursions into null, this is neither kitty online nor some CCP trailer. EVE does not need gunslinger stories or walls of text to describe a friggin' hauler kill. You killed 2 haulers, you lost 2 bombers + 2 pods and wasted 3-4 days on that. Really now, stick to L4s, PI and other blood-pumping activities.
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.05.16 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Negustor Cinstit Terrible troll. The bad part is, you made your carebearing mates droll, dreaming of empty hauler kills. Stop trying to romance your failed incursions into null, this is neither kitty online nor some CCP trailer. EVE does not need gunslinger stories or walls of text to describe a friggin' hauler kill. You killed 2 haulers, you lost 2 bombers + 2 pods and wasted 3-4 days on that. Really now, stick to L4s, PI and other blood-pumping activities.
Will be updating days 4,5,6 shortly.
Nequstor go back to your null alliance where you dont even know how to change a ships name. There is more to flying a SB then killing empty haulers. Im not going to go into further detail as I will outline this buttholes comments in my post as well as update you on the ONLY SB destroyed while behind enemy lines and explain the rational of ALLOWING the pod kills.
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.05.16 14:15:00 -
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day 4 updated. Moved post to
http://abomberslifeonthehighropes.blogspot.com/
Its simply easier to maintain. I will still use this post as general comms method. Please keep correspondance here.
Also I have created a public channel
bomb4u_pub
I figured theres really no where out there to simply talk about bombers so I figured Id give this a whirl and see if we can get some activity in there.
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Negustor Cinstit
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Posted - 2011.05.16 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: BolsterBomb
Will be updating days 4,5,6 shortly.
Nequstor go back to your null alliance where you dont even know how to change a ships name. There is more to flying a SB then killing empty haulers. Im not going to go into further detail as I will outline this buttholes comments in my post as well as update you on the ONLY SB destroyed while behind enemy lines and explain the rational of ALLOWING the pod kills.
I am not part of that alliance or even live in their space, I don't care, and I assure you they don't either, about some empty T1 haulers.
Also it's nice that you keep calling people noobs when you come up with brainfarts like - Originally by: BolsterBomb "omg, secret system, secret fit (lol), secret ****"
whereas you are of zero importance, have 0,1 knowledge on SBs, you are clueless about nullsec and people inhabiting it, and your alt is so obvious it took people 5 minutes to figure you out. You go mr.Bond.
Originally by: BolsterBomb "THe point I am making is that it is VERY EASY for a bomber to get into the back yard of an alliance". You have any idea why they are called "STEALTH bombers"?
You pat yourself on your back from moving a single cloaked ship into a system occupied by a large alliance who couldn't give a flying **** about some noob like you. Yeah man, you can write the stealth 101 manual.
Originally by: BolsterBomb Jumpbridge has an empty Raven BS in the forcefield. I noted the name of the ship for future reference for Dscans.
mhm
Originally by: BolsterBomb But I am wathcing my dscan and I notice a typhoon on short. He lands. Not jumping....mm typhoon tier 1 BS....I amthinking should I make a go. All of a sudden I get YELLOW BOXED....wtc!!
I notice I am sitting on a gate uncloaked.....oh crap. I warp out with 50% armor. The one thing I learned was the typhoon has a lot of drones.
You sat in your SB unstealthed, warped unstealthed, sat on gate unstealthed and you needed some bling bling on your overview to finally get it. And you call someone that overlooks renaming the ship a noob. Do you actually think it is so hard for someone to figure what an enemy is flying? . Are you still tricked by the "Drake" named tengus on dscan? Or do you think that by knowing the pilot's name/age you can say anything about his combat skill? What about the 2005 char with 60m SP in rock-shooting/ship building? Most you'll get from this is incomplete, misleading info.
Originally by: BolsterBomb BS' are starting to scare me. These things have drones.
You actually got into a SB without knowing that?
Originally by: BolsterBomb Clearly command has started warning their members about not just me but another afk cloaker in their system.
This gave your trollism away. You can't be really believing that for real
Originally by: BolsterBomb The other thing I REALLY want to do is launch a bomb at your stupid autopiloting pods. I dont mind getting some extra windshield washer fluid to clean my windshield off of your pod juice. .................. -Wish I had a bomb, the score would be about 100- 0 by now because you guys are ****** frig pilots
Have you ever actually launched a bomb? Do you even have a clue about them and how they work?
Now taking a fast look on your "blog", I can only tell you this: stop calling yourself a SB pilot and speaking for "We, the SB pilots" because you are not. You are clueless, you cannot fly a SB properly, heck you haven't even fired a bomb. Ever. Have some respect for people that actually do fly them and get real kills.
PS: learn to count: loss 1 loss 2
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.05.16 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 16/05/2011 15:37:03 He's already failed to kite a ****ing badger when it was obviously bait. This isn't a bad bomber pilot, it's a bad pilot. High on-paper dps and a cov ops cloak does not a pwnmobile make. Do try bombing or even torping a pod or frig, I just hope you like paying for ammo.
Here's what any solo bomber pilot should be reading |
BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.05.16 16:05:00 -
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Haters gonna hate no problem.
First: Vals guide is VERY good however, nothing will substitute knowing how to actual fly then doing it. So read all you want but your not going to learn until you actually fly one. Plus ValÆs guide is good but is still obscure. It does talk about targets , etc. but also leaves a lot of questions.
Second the battle badger was bait you are right. Guess what, I knew that too lait. IÆm sure you have been a VERY VERY EPIC pilot on your 4th day of flying a new ship and learned everything there needs to know AMIRIGHT?
Clearly you fly bombers right because you should know you can bomb a frig and you can make pod juice from a pod. But I guess you know everything there is too so maybe you are right that a MWD frig cant be blown up with a bomb??
Negustor I donÆt know what your problem is? Constipated? They make medicine for that. I am sure they do care about their haulers getting blown up left and right. If you actually keep reading the post to come you will find out there are a total of 3-5 afk cloakers destroying their haulers. What OMG?! Seriously all there stuff getting blown up, their sanctums shut down. Their Jump bridges being camped? Your right I am sure they donÆt careà.
First, I have never stated I am the be all end all on knowledge of a SB, but if you would like to think I am that is fine I guess, this blog was clearly started to explain the journey and LEARNING of how to fly a SB and cause havoc. I am sure you and Danneel are the only two pilots in EVE that jumped in a ship and knew everything there was about it. Your Cool can I have your autograph?
I do pat myself on the back being able to infilitrate into an alliance with more then 400 active members without getting caught in bubbles, etc for the second time mind you.
Second clearly you really are a SB pilot because you are right that knowing a ship stationed in a POS that is not being piloted is not important when you are stationed at a killing point making sure you donÆt get ganked by warp ins. You ARE right its not important. And you ARE VERY RIGHT that knowing which pilots fly certain ships ISNT important. For instance I donÆt care that a pilot just entered system that flys cynabols and drams and NOT haulers. Its not important Im with youà.. If you read Vals guide he says BS even with light drones you can tank before the drones eat you. So I guess you right reading that you can tank light drones and not finding out that its extremely RISKY is not valuable infoà.I guess I should read more. Maybe find the ones that say I can kill drams with torps too! I should just go and do that without testing it huh! Clearly you have launched many bombs because youÆre right no MWD frig dies when being hit with a bombàà.
PS I know how to count but I will count based on the story lineàmaybe you should go back to doing what you do bestà..what is that again?
Sorry for the detur gents I will have day 5 up in a couple hours or soà
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.05.16 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 16/05/2011 17:08:49 This is the Warfare and Tactics forum, you should have gone straight to having a blog and linking it in My Eve. Then come back here with enough experience to educate the rest.
Personally I read up first while training up a bomber, then quickly decided after a little experience that for my line of work a MSE was needed over ewar, and then racked up hundreds of T3 kills with it.
No one gives a **** about 1 guy being bothered by you, be it ratting or haulers. You aren't a corp or multiboxing across many systems so you are not 'destroying their miners, freighters and PI transports', 'blowing up haulers left and right', 'blowing up all there stuff, shutting their sanctums down'.
Might want to doublecheck that counting thing. Mwd, 10 seconds duration, bomb, 10 seconds flighttime. On the ball frig pilot turns off mwd, coasts away taking sod all damage if even still in range when bomb goes off. |
BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.05.16 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: BolsterBomb on 16/05/2011 17:12:13 day 5 updated
right Im sure your solo bomber has killed hundreds of T3s. Try posting with your main.
http://killboard.evekb.co.uk/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=322898
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.16 17:16:00 -
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Moved from Warfare and tactics.
Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.05.16 17:53:00 -
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Actually, you'd want me to post with my alt. I'll let you try your hand at intel gathering, thought http://vip3r.eve-kill.net/'s down atm. |
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